Timett sonof Timett is God Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Sophie Turner is indeed 18. phew nice. thanks I feel better now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widows_Blood Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I guess it will be argued about, and theres certainly no proof either way,,but it's far from far-fetched. My guess is it will be left ambiguous until season 5, by which time hopefully TWOW will have been released. It's not ambiguous at all. People are just baselessly speculating on absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 TV-Sansa looks like she is subtly encouraging Littlefinger's lust for her; which I like.Fixed :P I was thinking more that Sansa went full Black Swan...although considering that some have said that the idea of Sansa is essentially that of a Disney princess parachuted into a Crapsack World, that she dresses up like a Disney villain to mark her transformation would be fitting.I think the costume designers truly thought that when making that outfit. And a question No HTH thus far -- does that mean that LF really wants SR to recover? edit: the board ate half my postWell, the books are not the show and it does look like the show is setting things up to omit HtH. We should remember that book!LF doesn't benefit from SR's quick demise - quite the contrary. But if they're letting Robin go running around the Vale, possibly in the fosterage of others, how will LF get control of the Eyrie/Vale? I haven't seen LF being named Lord Protector yet; and he wants that almost as much as (possibly more than) he wants ultimate possession of Sansa.Well, since he's the one deciding that Robin will go on a tour of the Vale, deciding on his future and even asking his evidently not-fellow Lords what side they are, I think he had pretty much turned into Lord Protector without even asking. I don't think show Sansa is a maiden anymore.Interesting issue. I'd think Sansa is better off by keeping him desiring for the time being. But the scene is ambiguous and Show!Sansa clearly took Cersei's advice. Anyways, gotta love dark, cold bitch Sansa Stark. Maybe she will indeed sacrifice Walder Frey to the Old Gods after all! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's not ambiguous at all. People are just baselessly speculating on absolutely nothing. Nothing as in: couple alone in a bedroom, with a clear view of a bed. Guy wants to sleep with girl, girl acknowledges that and wants use it to her advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Locust Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's not ambiguous at all. People are just baselessly speculating on absolutely nothing. The only thing that happened in there was an important conversation, among other things. Unfounded speculation is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 http://imgur.com/Ed9Cizv this head ain't red anymore She's not a little bird or little dove anymore. She's a crow or a raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Locust Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Nothing as in: couple alone in a bedroom, with a clear view of a bed. Guy wants to sleep with girl, girl acknowledges that and wants use it to her advantage? That's not what I interpreted, but whatever you say. I think it was more game playing than the other kind of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timett sonof Timett is God Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Damn!!! evil Sansa and the Vale going against Ramsey and thee Boltons!!! :stunned: :stunned: it has to happen sometime right? Not even a Sansa fan but cold evil sultry seductive Sansa bent on revenge with the Vale behind her would be sweet. I'm not a book reader but I don't care about spoilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Walfrid Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The only thing that happened in there was an important conversation, among other things. Unfounded speculation is annoying.Let's just ignore centuries of literature where losing your virginity is transformative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empress In The North Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The Black Crow. Have to admit Anders from Dragon Age 2 (Act III) came to mind rather quickly. So is it safe to say that the show is ahead of the books now in regards to Sansa's story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Locust Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Let's just ignore centuries of literature where losing your virginity is transformative. It is transformative. That doesn't mean that it happened because Sansa, Littlefinger, and a bed were in the same room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress of Lemon Cakes Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The idea that Sansa is not a maiden anymore is just ... lol. No. All we got was Sansa basically confirming that she's with him from this point on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widows_Blood Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Nothing as in: couple alone in a bedroom, with a clear view of a bed. Guy wants to sleep with girl, girl acknowledges that and wants use it to her advantage? If this were the case it would have been made more obvious. They aren't going to not make such a huge moment unclear or that ambiguous; they may not show them doing the deed but I imagine it would be similar to Daario-Dany in episode 7. It would be so dumb for Littlefinger to say "Oh hey Sansa remember when I banged you that one time" in season 5. If anything the scene was playing up the sexual tension and maybe foreshadowing it in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The dark feather collar on Sansa's dress is driving me crazy. I know there's a specific visual reference point for that and I know I've seen it somewhere before, and I can't quite place it. I want to say McQueen, but I don't think that's it, although McQueen has used feathers for dresses before in a big way. She's not a little bird or little dove anymore. She's a crow or a raven. Nah, she's a swan. A BLACK SWAN. DUN DUN DUNNNN. All we got was Sansa basically confirming that she's with him from this point on. And that she knows that she has the upper hand with him, which seriously changes up their power dynamic from the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbringer Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Big big changes, but I dont care. Sansa was awesome, she crossed a bridge there, no looking back now. Would have been better to see LF play the lords of the Vale off against each other more, but I'm still happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Locust Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 If this were the case it would have been made more obvious. They aren't going to not make such a huge moment unclear or that ambiguous; they may not show them doing the deed but I imagine it would be similar to Daario-Dany in episode 7. It would be so dumb for Littlefinger to say "Oh hey Sansa remember when I banged you that one time" in season 5. If anything the scene was playing up the sexual tension and maybe foreshadowing it in the future. They will also most certainly include footage of it. Remember, this is HBO. Blood+Nudity=Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 If this were the case it would have been made more obvious. They aren't going to not make such a huge moment unclear or that ambiguous; they may not show them doing the deed but I imagine it would be similar to Daario-Dany in episode 7. It would be so dumb for Littlefinger to say "Oh hey Sansa remember when I banged you that one time" in season 5. If anything the scene was playing up the sexual tension and maybe foreshadowing it in the future. It depends on how the want to play the relationship between them, and whether they want to focus in Sansa's first fuck or not. As it stands, I think it was made to look ambiguous. And if we disagree on this, well, we're just two strangers disagreeing on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress of Lemon Cakes Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 And that she knows that she has the upper hand with him, which seriously changes up their power dynamic from the books. Yes and the reluctant creepy shipper in me is very happy with this changed power dynamic. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Walfrid Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It is transformative. That doesn't mean that it happened because Sansa, Littlefinger, and a bed were in the same room.Your forgetting the important partShe was transformed immediately after that encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm not going to read the entire thread (fun as it might be), but man, did they change absolutely everything now! They didn't just streamline Feast, they fucking skipped it and jumped right at WoW instead! Robin is going, LF is practically declaring war against the Iron Throne, Sansa is Maleficent...I mean, just give us Harry the Heir in the next episode and be done with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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