Sci-2 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Preachy Twits: Please Go Away! For both the fundie christians and the pushy atheists, it's not enough to know what they believe. It's not enough for them to be absolutely certain that they're correct. If other people don't agree with them, regardless of what those other people think, regardless of whether those other people are interested in listening, they must go out and aggressively convert people. You must listen. You must be convinced. Anything less than perfect agreement is more than just disagreement - it's like it's a personal affront. There's another major common thing between the fundies and the pushy atheists: it's how they approach the non-believers/believers. When a christian twit comes to preach at you, they always firmly believe that you've never really heard of christianity. They really believe that no other christian has ever approached you before; that all they need to do is lay out the reasons why you should accept Jesus, and if you listen honestly, that you'll believe it too. They're repeating the same thing that any non-christian has heard a thousand times before. But they really, genuinely believe that they're the first one to bring their arguments to you. Because the argument is so powerful, so self-evident, that if you'd ever heard it before, you'd be a fundie just like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yeah finally a philosophical thread. I've been searching for one for quite some time, but didn't expect to find it here Here's a good introduction to theist philosophy's historical foundations in Greek & Judeo-Christian thought.Here's the main category TOC:I.Foundation for the Study of ReligionII. Philosophy of Religion – a foundationIII.Ancient Greek influences on religious philosophyIV.Judeo-Christian influences on religious philosophyV.Philosophy of ReligionA. Traditional arguments for the existence of GodB. Challenges to religious belief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Ayras Lord Commander Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Question: Is it not extremely arrogant to call god god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennis of the Brown Shield Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The natural disasters front can be countered in a number of possible ways: 1. God exists, can control natural disasters, and in doing so is actively malevolent. 2. God exists, but cannot or will not intervene in natural disasters: 2a. Because God merely set up the universe, and plays no part in its operations (the Divine Clockmaker). 2b. Because God delegates such malevolence to an independent being (the Devil), with a view to testing his creations. 2c. Because natural disasters are fundamentally amoral events, they don't interest Him. 2d. Because God is not truly omnipotent. He wants to help, but can't, for fear of something worse happening. 3. God exists, can control natural disasters, and is using it to punish wrongdoing. 4. God exists, can control natural disasters, and is doing it to test faith (basically 2b, except that God is doing it directly, rather than outsourcing it to the Devil) 5. God exists, may or may not have anything to do with natural disasters, but He is so far above our comprehension that for all we know, natural disasters are a good thing long term. 6. A combination of 2b and 2d: God exists, but he has a genuine Manichean opponent (not an underling like the Devil). 7. A combination of 2c and 5: God is a Cthulhu type figure: not so much malevolent, as no more interested in the doings of humans than we are by flies. 8. God has ceased to exist for whatever reason, so by definition, cannot intervene. Then there is 9. where God is too busy drinking beer, scheming against other gods, committing adultery, and killing people that have displeased him to care about stupid tidal waves and earthquakes. A view that can be more or less found in some of the old Indo-European religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Goon Hit Instils Doggie Prison Easiest EDIT: at one point this had reason to be here, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryden blackfish tully Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Then there is 9. where God is too busy drinking beer, scheming against other gods, committing adultery, and killing people that have displeased him to care about stupid tidal waves and earthquakes. A view that can be more or less found in some of the old Indo-European religions. That sounds a bit like 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennis of the Brown Shield Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 That sounds a bit like 7 I suppose, but a difference is that instead of being a Cthulhu-esque monster, God (or the gods) are more like criminal alcoholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryden blackfish tully Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I suppose, but a difference is that instead of being a Cthulhu-esque monster, God (or the gods) are more like criminal alcoholics. I don't like the cthulhu-like idea of god at all, as it makes him phisical and therefore limited (actually I don't like the idea of god at all, but that's a different discussion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardstark1234 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 DONT DELETE MY COMMENT RACISTS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 DONT DELETE MY COMMENT RACISTS!!! Hey now if you don't say please they might edit it down to lowercase text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Meddle Yet Not, Mascot Centrism!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardstark1234 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 be quit and stop deleting my COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Be "quit"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerenthaClone Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Post better comments then. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Is Ayahuasca Grooming a New Generation of Healers? Ayahuasca has been coming to the attention of popular press — and mainstream culture — over the course of the past few years. 2014 has seen folks like Lindsay Lohan come forward about the medicine and its healing potencies. In this clip, Rak Razam riffs on the possibility of an awakening of “neo-shamanism” in the West, not only healing people but developing life-long connections with the medicine and the compulsion to become healers themselves in their own communities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NestorMakhnosLovechild Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Is Ayahuasca Grooming a New Generation of Healers? Well if Lindsay Lohan is doing it... sign me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardstark1234 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 i do post good comments but athests cannnot handle truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gears of the Beast Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 i do post good comments but athests cannnot handle truth The trolling doesn't annoy me anywhere near as much as the fact that you haven't been able to spell atheist correctly in any of your inane comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardstark1234 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i spell right you hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryden blackfish tully Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i spell right you hypocrite If you are not going to add anything serious here, could you please leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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