Howland Reeds Weed Swamp Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 George has confirmed The Others will be in TWoW and I'm 100% sure the invasion will take place 3/4 of the book and we start to panic. But I think that Craster scene from the show will be on TWoW and my only guessing on who could see this or been told about this is:Bran-BR sees these ongoings and tells Bran what he sawMelisandre-See's it through the flames and tells it to Stannis or DavosJon-Snuh wargs into Ghost,he flees as far north as North goes to seek something. He gets lost on the way and finds a undead horse moving throughout. He follows it too it's destination and watches from somewhere. Of course these are stupid but someone must of seen. Even Coldhands,possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceGardener Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I don't think we'll see it directly--it's one of those things that is alluded to in the books due to a lack of POV, much like Renly and Loras' relationship. And in fact it already has been alluded to enough for us to have concluded most of what that scene showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaraeyne Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think Bran will somehow find out.OMG sudden wild thought: what if Bran was able to warg into the Others!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I suppose he could somehow have Gilly's kid get taken, but not sure how he would pull off a POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Bran or Jon warging Summer or Ghost, respectively. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think Bran will somehow find out.OMG sudden wild thought: what if Bran was able to warg into the Others!!!! I suspect that Others and dragons and other magical creatures probably cannot be skinchanged...although I could be wrong. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Ghost or Summer. If things get really bad, Nymeria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I don't think the scene from the show will be in the book, it was already in the book but more subtle from Craster's wives/daughters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Bran saw basically that whole scene sans the baby in his third chapter of aGoT, complete with the Land of Always Winter, the curtain of light at the end of the world, the ice spires that surrounded the ice base, and if certain theories are true, by the "heart of winter" he saw that ice base that the baby was set upon. The only thing he didn't see was 13 walkers being there, the one with the crowny points, and the actual baby changing. but we had enough foreshadowing and hints for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igrewupinKL Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Benjen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civility Reigns Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisknz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 We find out exactly what happens with Craster's sons on Sam's chapter in which Lord Commander Mormont dies. "You said you’d help her. Do what Ferny says, boy. Take the girl and be quick about it.” “Quick,” the raven said. “Quick quick quick.” “Where?” asked Sam, puzzled. “Where should I take her?” “Someplace warm,” the two old women said as one. Gilly was crying. “Me and the babe. Please. I’ll be your wife, like I was Craster’s. Please, ser crow. He’s a boy, just like Nella said he’d be. If you don’t take him, they will.” “They?” said Sam, and the raven cocked its black head and echoed, “They They They” “The boy’s brothers,” said the old woman on the left. “Craster’s sons. The white cold’s rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don’t lie. They’ll be here soon, the sons.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Bran saw basically that whole scene sans the baby in his third chapter of aGoT, complete with the Land of Always Winter, the curtain of light at the end of the world, the ice spires that surrounded the ice base, and if certain theories are true, by the "heart of winter" he saw that ice base that the baby was set upon. The only thing he didn't see was 13 walkers being there, the one with the crowny points, and the actual baby changing. but we had enough foreshadowing and hints for that. So what terrified the kid who loves the scary stories was a baby on some ice? I don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Bran saw basically that whole scene sans the baby in his third chapter of aGoT, complete with the Land of Always Winter, the curtain of light at the end of the world, the ice spires that surrounded the ice base, and if certain theories are true, by the "heart of winter" he saw that ice base that the baby was set upon. The only thing he didn't see was 13 walkers being there, the one with the crowny points, and the actual baby changing. but we had enough foreshadowing and hints for that. Not quite: Bran looked down. There was nothing below him now but snow and cold and death, a frozen wasteland where jagged blue-white spires of ice waited to embrace him. They flew up at him like ice spears. He saw the bones of a thousand other dreamers impaled upon their points. He was desperately afraid. In fact, much different. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not quite: In fact, much different. ;) Eh, I'm most positive the set design / visuals they used were inspired by that passage. They could've used anything for the white walker baby changing station, but they surrounded it by ice pointy thingies. They didn't have the other dreamers and they didn't fly up, but still. And I did say the heart of winter was a theory. ;) I read it way before that episode aired so nothing there really surprised me besides them actually confirming the CrasterOther baby thing before GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Eh, I'm most positive the set design / visuals they used were inspired by that passage. They could've used anything for the white walker baby changing station, but they surrounded it by ice pointy thingies. They didn't have the other dreamers and they didn't fly up, but still. And I did say the heart of winter was a theory. ;) I read it way before that episode aired so nothing there really surprised me besides them actually confirming the CrasterOther baby thing before GRRM. I agree, it's certainly inspired by that passage, but there are some major differences in the elements -- like the 'bones of a thousand dreamers'. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Eh, I'm most positive the set design / visuals they used were inspired by that passage. They could've used anything for the white walker baby changing station, but they surrounded it by ice pointy thingies. They didn't have the other dreamers and they didn't fly up, but still. And I did say the heart of winter was a theory. ;) I read it way before that episode aired so nothing there really surprised me besides them actually confirming the CrasterOther baby thing before GRRM. Bhahahahahahaha. I LOVE THAT PHRASE. Granted, I'm just seeing a changing station in a public restroom in my mind, but that's why I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisknz Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Eh, I'm most positive the set design / visuals they used were inspired by that passage. They could've used anything for the white walker baby changing station, but they surrounded it by ice pointy thingies. They didn't have the other dreamers and they didn't fly up, but still. And I did say the heart of winter was a theory. ;) I read it way before that episode aired so nothing there really surprised me besides them actually confirming the CrasterOther baby thing before GRRM. It doesn't confirm before GRRM, cos you find out what happen with Craster's sons on ASOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It doesn't confirm before GRRM, cos you find out what happen with Craster's sons on ASOS.I say confirm because even though Craster's wife tells us, we didn't know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I have to say I think everyone is drawing a conclusion that is not there. We are point blank not told by anyone that the babies are turned into ww's. While I agree its logical and possible, Old Nan specifically tells us that WW's feed their undead soldiers on the blood of babes. This seems entirely possible too, that the babies are either needed as sacrifices "only death can pay for life" or that after a while undead things need some fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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