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  1. So long as Viserys was alive, it wouldn't matter if he was older or younger than Daenerys. In either case, he would come ahead of her in the line of succession, because he is a man and she is a woman.
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    Robert should have wed Daenerys to Joffrey

    You're misunderstanding me. I am not saying Robert and Jon should have negotiated a marriage with the caretakers of the Targs, but that they should have captured Viserys and Daenerys alive, or killed Viserys in the capture, and eventually wed Daenerys to Joffrey. It would have eliminated Robert's Targaryen problem.
  3. It's nice that Jon Arryn convinced Robert not to have Viserys and Daenerys murdered for all those years, but it's too bad he didn't convince Robert to apprehend them and make use of them. Viserys could have been sent to Winterfell to be a ward/hostage of Ned Stark, or else dealt with in some other manner. And Daenerys could have been betrothed and eventually wed to Joffrey. Nobody could ever have predicted that Daenerys would become what she did, but it still made sense to take control of what remained of House Targaryen, and use it to their advantage. Perhaps Jon was content to convince Robert not to murder them, and to get Dorne to agree not to support them, and believed that would neutralize the issue. Perhaps he didn't trust what Robert would allow people like the Lannisters to do for him if Viserys and Daenerys were brought near. But I think the Baratheon regime missed an important opportunity to absorb Daenerys's claims.
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    Why did Jon Arryn reward the lannisters ?

    I doubt Gregor left any witnesses to his crimes. Lannister soldiers might have known he and Lorch were the ones sent up there, and that they had to have been the ones to do it, but I doubt any witnesses survived, save perhaps Varys's birds.
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    Why did Jon Arryn reward the lannisters ?

    What's clear is that there is no witness or proof to hold Gregor responsible for his crimes. And if he had ever been accused it almost certainly would have come to a trial by combat. "Lesser beasts." Lord Tywin's fingers laced together under his chin. "Ser Gregor has served us well. No other knight in the realm inspires such terror in our enemies." "Oberyn knows that Gregor was the one who . . ." "He knows nothing. He has heard tales. Stable gossip and kitchen calumnies. He has no crumb of proof. Ser Gregor is certainly not about to confess to him. I mean to keep him well away for so long as the Dornishmen are in King's Landing." — ASOS: Tyrion VI
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    Why did Jon Arryn reward the lannisters ?

    Keeping Jaime in the KG was probably the best option, as it maintained his pre-war status quo as a hostage to the crown, and encouraged Tywin keep faith. Gregor's role might have been known/believed, but Tywin makes clear that there is no witness to corroborate his role in the murder of Elia and the kids. All in all, the Lannisters threw in with Robert, while Dorne fought against him, however begrudgingly they served Aerys at the end. There would have been little benefit to starting something with Tywin, just to appease a Dorne that wasn't likely to offer much support to the new regime. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that someone in the Lannister army was scapegoated just to make a show of holding someone accountable. I don't think it's very likely, but possible.
  7. It's possible that Doran broached the subject of justice when Jon Arryn returned Lewyn's bones to Dorne. Jon Arryn sailed to Sunspear to return Prince Lewyn's bones, sat down with Prince Doran, and ended all the talk of war. But Robert never went to Dorne thereafter, and Prince Oberyn seldom left it." — ASOS: Tyrion Perhaps Jon was unwilling/unable to offer up any of the real culprits, or perhaps Doran didn't even bother to broach the subject.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    That's a non argument. AGOT is told from over half a dozen perspectives, and the show included even more perspectives. Fire and Blood is written by a single maester a hundred and fifty years after the Dance, based on three or so contemporary but biased sources. It would be absurd to judge the potential of a series in which the characters involved will each get their unique voices based on a book that is intentionally written in the voice of a single editor using a few sources. And there's plenty of non-Targs in the Dance.
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    (Spoilers Fire&Blood) Can Velaryons ride dragons?

    The only known Velaryon dragonriders are Laenor and Laena, who had a Targ mother, Laenor's "sons," who had a Targ mother, and the Hull boys. Marilda would know better than anyone whether her sons were Laenor's or Corlys's, and it is highly unlikely she would have sent her sons to try to claim dragon without knowing they had some recent Targ ancestry, whether from their father, or from her own ancestors.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    The Dance is no less about the great houses than it is about the Targs. Anyone that thinks this story is just about the Targs obviously hasn't read very much about it. There is no shortage of characters with eyes and hair that aren't purple or gold-silver, including Rhaenyra's three eldest sons, at least one of whom should be among the main characters early on.
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    (Spoilers Fire&Blood) Can Velaryons ride dragons?

    Whether fathered by Laenor or Corlys, it seems unlikely that Marilda would have claimed her sons to be dragonseed and enabled them to attempt to claim dragons if she didn't know they had somewhat recent Targaryen ancestry.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    I'm not sure what point you were trying to make, but this show doesn't need to attract anyone outside the existing GOT audience. Not that it won't, but it doesn't need to. If it can retain even half of the GOT audience to start it will probably be in a pretty decent position. This show isn't starting from scratch. It has the potential to tap into a massive existing fanbase from day one. And unlike GOT, in this the dragons are already grown, and both sides have them from the start.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    GOT has had an audience of over 10 million people since the second season, over 15 million since the fourth, and over 20 million over the last three seasons. It really doesn't need to sell any audience that isn't already sold on GOT.
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    Daemon Blackfyre

    I used to like to think that Blackfyre was at first a nickname Daemon was called by after receiving the sword, like Qhorin Halfhand, or Daenerys Stormborn. But it appears some source says he adopted the name when he received the sword at 12. Not sure what, to any, extent he was ever called by Targaryen. But apparently to him, or to his advisors, it was more important to use a house name that called attention to the fact that he wielded the sword of Aegon, than to retroactively adopt the surname of Aegon he had been deprived of and lived without up to then.
  15. It happens. Sometimes it takes a couple many years to have a child, and then they may only be able to have one or two. I don't think there is anything to the idea that Aegon I couldn't have children. And just because we haven't heard of any prior failed pregnancies doesn't tell us there weren't any.
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