Fire Eater Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think the riverlords would join Dany for the most part, dragons are good recruitment tools. The riverlords also supported Rhaenyra in the first Dance. Dany could promise justice for the RW, and the Blackfish could join her provided she meets two conditions: Riverrun and dominion over the Trident is restored to Edmure and justice for the RW. ^ No 1 is expecting an exact repeat, I myself am expecting a mixture of the dance and the conquest, and either way Dany gets the Vale and Riverlands in that scenario.Also a mixture of the First Blackfyre Rebellion Why would she care? As far as she's concerned the Tully's, Stark's, Arryn's, and Baratheon's are all usurpers. She'd probably rather have the Bolton's and Frey's than the Stark's and Tully's.She would care since even she knows the rule of guest right when Xaro tells her that he should have killed her whilst she slept under his roof, she reminded him she was his guest. She would be revolted, and promising justice for the RW would be a good way to gain potential support, especially among he riverlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Why would she care? As far as she's concerned the Tully's, Stark's, Arryn's, and Baratheon's are all usurpers. She'd probably rather have the Bolton's and Frey's than the Stark's and Tully's. Walder Frey could very well spin the story that he tried to get to the Trident in time to serve Rhaegar, but the battle was over before he got there so he did the next best thing and bent the knee. A victorious Dany would probably accept this explanation and she'd deserve what she gets in this reliable bannerman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Stark 123 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 During the siege of Riverrun, the banners of the Rygers, Paeges, Blackwoods, Mootons and Mallisters were absent -these houses were the ones most loyal to the Stark-Tully cause during Robb's campaign. It is also worth noting that the Mootons and the Rygers stayed loyal to Aerys during Robert's Rebellion. House Blackwood's loyalty hangs by a thread, and can only come to an end by Hoster being freed -which will happen one way or another. I think that Lord Tytos will be one of Dany's most prominent supporters: they have a connection to the Targs through Bloodraven and his house also supported the blacks during the DoD. I think that Seagard will eventually be freed either by the BwB: either that, or badass Jason Mallister will give Black Walder a taste of his own medicine. Also, for the sake of a historical note, the Mallisters aided Aegon in his conquest to rid the Riverlands of the Iron Born: maybe this time he will help Dany rid the Riverlands of Freys/Lannisters. I also think that when the BwB frees the Red Wedding hostages (I think it is inevitable), the Riverlords will be free to support whoever they want: which at this point, will either be Dany, Aegon, Euron, Stannis or the Lannisters. I think that the Riverlords have far too much honour to support (who, in their view, is) a fake; and Stannis is a) far away; b ) wants to burn their Septs and Weirwoods. I think it will pretty obvious that the Riverlords would do anything to avoid an alliance with the Lannisters and Euron. So what would a bunch of honourable lords do when a Targaryen (whose claim is unquestionable) appears to conquer Westeros, with three dragons (and appears to be the only ruler who cares about the wellbeing about her people)?Whoaaah whoaaah whoaaah!Only Stannis the Mannis, king of the Andals and the First Men, lord of the Seven kingdoms and protector of the Realm, Azor Ahai reborn actually cares about the people. As for Dany, she'll hopefully die as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Celtigar Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 With regard to the Blackwoods, I'd like to point out that Daenerys's great grandmother was a Blackwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 With regard to the Blackwoods, I'd like to point out that Daenerys's great grandmother was a Blackwood. She probably doesn't even know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If there is no Stark around to support they could absolutely go with a Dragon to get back at the Lannisters. But as someone mentioned above, the arrival of winter may well prevent the Riverlords from playing much of a role in the coming war, which is likely to take place further to the south. With regard to the Blackwoods, I'd like to point out that Daenerys's great grandmother was a Blackwood. Didn't stop the Blackwoods from turning on Aerys so I wouldn't put to much into such distant kinship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Celtigar Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 She probably doesn't even know that Barristan knows: he has most likely told her, and if he hasn't, then he will -if he survives. Also, Tyrion definitely knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 With regard to the Blackwoods, I'd like to point out that Daenerys's great grandmother was a Blackwood. So was Ned's and Robert's and Stannis' and Renly's. The Targs and Baratheons all descend from Betha Blackwood. The Starks descend from Melantha Blackwood. Melantha- Edwyle-Rickard-EddardBetha-Jaehaerys-Aerys-DanyBetha-Rhaella-Steffon-Stannis Didn't stop the Blackwoods from turning on Aerys so I wouldn't put to much into such distant kinship. It wasn't that distant Aerys murdered his second cousin through his Blackwood relative. The Blackwoods chose to avenge Melantha's grandson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Amey Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Why would she care? As far as she's concerned the Tully's, Stark's, Arryn's, and Baratheon's are all usurpers. She'd probably rather have the Bolton's and Frey's than the Stark's and Tully's. Boltons and Freys fought the Targs in the Rebellion. Walder Frey could very well spin the story that he tried to get to the Trident in time to serve Rhaegar, but the battle was over before he got there so he did the next best thing and bent the knee. A victorious Dany would probably accept this explanation and she'd deserve what she gets in this reliable bannerman. Walter maybe could spin Dany, but i doubt he would get past Sir Jorah or Sir Barrstain, They know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Boltons and Freys fought the Targs in the Rebellion. Walter maybe could spin Dany, but i doubt he would get past Sir Jorah or Sir Barrstain, They know! And we all know how much Dany listens to her advisors. Even if Jorah reconciles with Dany or Barristan lives to her triumph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Do know people tire of war . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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