Pod The Rod Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Pretty much the above. In the Lannister family tree, the 2nd wife of Gerold Lannister, mother of Tytos and grandmother of Tywin, is shown as being a Rohanne Webber? Is this the same one that shows up in D&E, and that Dunk appears to have a major crush on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yes, the one who would have married Dunk if he had been of higher birth but instead was hoping he'd bend her over in the barn before leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Rod Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yes, the one who would have married Dunk if he had been of higher birth but instead was hoping he'd bend her over in the barn before leaving. That's the one. Crazy that she'd end up marrying the lord of CR and becoming the grandma of one of Westeros's greatest douchebags, if that's really her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She seemed rather consistent with Tywin to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Rod Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I somehow have a very hard time envisioning Rohanne Webber ordering the Rape of the Riverlands or the Rains of Castamere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She seemed rather consistent with Tywin to me. I object to this. A friend of mine told me I reminded him of Rohanne and I would never ever order my child's wife to be raped by my soldiers. I'm actually cool and stuff. U_U I'm ok with beating up taller men, though. They can manage... :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She went extra-judicial and fired Eustace's lands. Was perfectly prepared to put Eustace's peasants to slaughter. Wouldn't consider a match below her status. Sung a different tune when the penny dropped and looked to ingratiate herself with the dragon. Made a marriage that would grant her more lands and free her to marry again when her elderly husband died. Went on in life to play herself all the way up to Lady Lannister. Avarice, ambition, a pre-occupation with projecting strength, elitism, opportunism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black of Hair and Heart Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Pretty much the above. In the Lannister family tree, the 2nd wife of Gerold Lannister, mother of Tytos and grandmother of Tywin, is shown as being a Rohanne Webber? Is this the same one that shows up in D&E, and that Dunk appears to have a major crush on? It's definitely her. Also hoping that her mysterious disappearance, as mentioned in the Lannister section of the World Book, will be accounted for in a future D&E story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Rod Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ehh, no. Still don't see it. The whole reason I started this thread was because I was unsure if that was even the same person in the Lannister family tree. We have no idea how that match came about. And again, I cannot see her committing any of Tywin's great atrocities. She's not like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You wouldn't see it when you look at Tywin in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Tywin never learnt it from her. He became the way he is due to the way his father was. But similar mind sets without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black of Hair and Heart Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ehh, no. Still don't see it. The whole reason I started this thread was because I was unsure if that was even the same person in the Lannister family tree. We have no idea how that match came about. And again, I cannot see her committing any of Tywin's great atrocities. She's not like him. Gerold Lannister is mentioned as one of her suitors in The Sworn Sword. And Eustace Osgrey was pretty old when they get married at the end of that story. Not tough to imagine him dying after a few years and Rohanne marrying Gerold. Also it's fun to imagine that Jamie and Brienne's ancestors shared a similar love/hate relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She went extra-judicial and fired Eustace's lands. Was perfectly prepared to put Eustace's peasants to slaughter. Wouldn't consider a match below her status. Sung a different tune when the penny dropped and looked to ingratiate herself with the dragon. Made a marriage that would grant her more lands and free her to marry again when her elderly husband died. Went on in life to play herself all the way up to Lady Lannister. Avarice, ambition, a pre-occupation with projecting strength, elitism, opportunism.IIRC, she only killed one of Eustace's peasants, who'd been given repeated warnings not to steal sheep.OTOH, she was a reputed witch and poisoner. I wonder if she played any part in the death of Gerold's brother and niece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 OTOH, she was a reputed witch and poisoner. I wonder if she played any part in the death of Gerold's brother and niece. She was none. She had red hair. People with red hair is thought to be evil and witches :( Also, vaginas. They're evil. But seriously, she definitely has an attitude (which is fine). Women with attitude aren't well received in certain courts. If Gerold actually liked her for what she was, it's not surprised some would call her a witch and believed her to be bewitching her husband or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She was none. She had red hair. People with red hair is thought to be evil and witches :( Also, vaginas. They're evil.But seriously, she definitely has an attitude (which is fine). Women with attitude aren't well received in certain courts. If Gerold actually liked her for what she was, it's not surprised some would call her a witch and believed her to be bewitching her husband or something.Maybe. There is a mystery still to be solved, in her sudden disappearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 IIRC, she only killed one of Eustace's peasants, who'd been given repeated warnings not to steal sheep.OTOH, she was a reputed witch and poisoner. I wonder if she played any part in the death of Gerold's brother and niece. Agreed. I think she also had a hand in the deaths of some of her husbands. I think the kinslaying gene in the current Lannisters come from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Agreed. I think she also had a hand in the deaths of some of her husbands. I think the kinslaying gene in the current Lannisters come from her.In The Sworn Sword, she comes over as quite a pleasant and friendly person. But then, so do a number of villains. I think Martin could take her story in either direction. Either make her unfairly maligned, or every bit as bad as the rumours say. Even if she was a witch, that wouldn't necessarily make her a murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 She comes as an ambitious widow who burned the Osgrey woods and manipulated the winds so that the fire would not come to her lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Gerold likely poisoned Tywald, and definitely poisoned Cerelle. Who better then another reputed poisoner to help him with his escapades? I don't think she killed all her husbands, but speeding up their demises isn't out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think Tywin had his father poisoned and later commanded the crew of Gerion to dump him into the sea. Tyrion obviously did his part of kinslaying in the privy. Jaime and Cersei will kill each other. I have even wilder speculations that Cersei might have poisoned Joffrey unintentionally and will poison Tommen intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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