Season 5 Casting, News and Speculation V 10 [Spoilers]

[larastone]

Okay, I admit. As before with Cersei's alluded-to pregnancy in ep. 401, I'm the father. This time she's keeping it.

you better run for your life then because Jaime's going cut you into in pieces

[Konradsmith]

you better run for your life then because Jaime's going cut you into in pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzTsJADR8s

Just replace what the cop says with, "I'm Jaime Lannister and I'm gonna kill you slowly and painfully for laying with my sister. Was it worth it?"

But yeah, they could shoot around it easily. Good thing they didn't put off the tWoS till s6.

[naseridrl]

So does that mean poor Carice is going to have to find someone else?

[Konradsmith]

So does that mean poor Carice is going to have to find someone else?

It's a polygamous arrangement. Much like Aegon the Conqueror, except they're not my sisters...and there's more than two GoT cast members in the mix.

(Yeah, this is getting weird. Sorry folks).

[alcasinoroyale]

"You're still fertile. You need to marry again and breed." - Tywin

Dat foreshadow for real life.

[Hagen of Tronje]

It's a polygamous arrangement. Much like Aegon the Conqueror, except they're not my sisters...and there's more than two GoT cast members in the mix.

(Yeah, this is getting weird. Sorry folks).

Lucky bastard.

[naseridrl]

It's a polygamous arrangement. Much like Aegon the Conqueror, except they're not my sisters...and there's more than two GoT cast members in the mix.

(Yeah, this is getting weird. Sorry folks).

This is ASOIAF/GOT its always going to be kind of weird. It'd be weird if it wasn't weird.

On the subject of Mel do we know if she'll have a warged ''pet'' to burn this season? That's one of my fave things from the books. I'm not really up to snuff with my wildlings who've been cast and who not.

[igrewupinKL]

"You're still fertile, you need to marry and breed again," - Tywin

Dat foreshadow for real life.

LOLOL

so good

[CaptainTheo]

I hope the baby daddy is Pedro lol

A BIG deviation from the books where Oberyn says he'd rather have hundreds of scorpions fall on him than Cersei.

[larastone]

A BIG deviation from the books where Oberyn says he'd rather have hundreds of scorpions fall on him than Cersei.

not too big if he agrees to fuck cersei for ellaria~

[oierem]

it will probably be really easy to tell if its Pedro's kid too when we see him/her

Lena was pregnant during Season 1 and went on and filmed Season 2 while having a newborn baby so i dont think it should be a problem. lena also seems to be one of those women who don't gain much weight during pregnancy.

That's something I've read many times, but is that true at all? According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Headey her son was born in March 2010, before season 1 was shot. I think she was just pregnant for the pilot.

[larastone]

That's something I've read many times, but is that true at all? According to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Headey her son was born in March 2010, before season 1 was shot. I think she was just pregnant for the pilot.

here's a Lena interview where you can read her talking about it idk

http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/lena-headey-game-of-thrones-the-purge-interview.html

[Konradsmith]

IMDB and Wikipedia had Emilia Clarke's birthday wrong too, so I think I'll take Lena's word on the subject. That's why her sleeves are so big on her costumes, so she could hold them in front of her belly in s1. That's why you never see her torso clearly then and she's always sitting down or shot above the waist. It's clear in how different her face looks between s1 and s2 as well. A bunch of other people (cast and producers and whatnot) have mentioned it in commentaries and interviews etc. So I'd have to say Wikipedia's wrong on this count.

[alcasinoroyale]

Okay, so this took a while, but I edited my prediction and added some of the other speculation from what I just learned in this forum. While I do think that most of the events are right, perhaps the chronological order or episode that the scene is in are not. Feel free to criticize as I did use a far amount of TristanSnow's words, lol.

King's Landing Season 5

Episode 1

Scene 1: Cold Opening will be the Maggy the Frog Prophecy. Cersei awakes to discover that Tywin is dead.

Scene 2: Meryn Trant escorts Cersei with Tywin’s casket into the Sept of Baelor.

Scene 3: During Tywin’s funeral, Cersei ignores Pycelle, but reconnects with Kevan and Lancel, who reminds her of Robert’s tragic hunting accident while Margaery tries to comfort Tommen.

Scene 4: Afterward, Cersei finds Jaime standing around Tywin’s corpse, who is contemplating whether it was Tyrion. Cersei tells him that, "The Monster is still out there drawing breath" and begins to think it could have been Jaime that released him.

Episode 2

Scene 1: Cersei receives a threat from the Sand Snakes, a box containing a dead viper with a lion necklace around it. Cersei becomes paranoid and sends Jaime to retrieve Myrcella in Dorne, but also because she is also angry that he could have released Tyrion. Jaime then asks Bronn to leave with him to go rescue Myrcella in Dorne.

Scene 2: Later on, Tommen and Margaery are married. Cersei, Pycelle, Loras, Mace, and others applaud at the ceremony.

Scene 3: Cersei then wants a fresh start and orders the kingsguard to burn the tower of the hand.

Episode 3

Scene 1: Cersei meets with her new council Tommen, Kevan, Qyburn, Pycelle, and Mace where she learns about how the common people are supporting the High Sparrow who wants to intensify the faith of the seven into the capital.

Scene 2: Cersei travels to Fleabottom escorted by Meryn Trant and witnesses the sickness and poverty that she has ignored for some time. She then meets the High Sparrow and discuss. Cersei agrees to restore the militant orders of faith in return for Tommen's blessing to improve the city, and the forgiveness of the crown's debt.

Scene 3: Cersei, Tommen, and Margaery travel in their litters through the streets where peasants and common people are cheering, however the High Sparrow looks displeased and begins his quest to remove all of the scum from the capital.

Scene 4: Purging Immorality Sequence, The faith militant destroys a pub, Littlefinger's brothel, and overthrow the High Septon by chasing him through the streets.

Episode 4

Scene 1: Cersei meets with her council again and learns that many peasants have been waiting on the steps to the Red Keep and are asking for help, but Cersei has shut down every effort and charitable work of Margaery's.

Scene 2: Littlefinger arrives in the capital and encounters Lancel, who tells him that he is a warrior’s son now.

Scene 3: Cersei meets with Margaery in the gardens where they act like frienemies.

Scene 4: Tommen arrives at the steps toward the High Sparrow’s Chambers, but is stopped by the faith militant. As he is leaving, the crowd beneath the steps yells “Bastard, abomination.”

Scene 4: Loras is practicing sword fighting, but is soon ambushed by members of faith militant who seizes him. Loras tries to fight back, but is dragged away forcefully.

Episode 5

Scene 1: Sometime after, Olenna returns to the capital and walks into the trashed whorehouse where she meets with Littlefinger.

Scene 2: Tommen and Margaery have a semi-intimate scene where Margaery hugs Tommen after the city has become chaos and her brother has been arrested.

Scene 3: Cersei catches Margaery in the act sleeping around with her handmaidens. Cersei then frames Margaery for adultery and treason and has her arrested.

Episode 6

Scene 1: Cersei's paranoia grows, as Jaime has not returned from Dorne. She visits Qyburn, who tells her that Littlefinger was seen in the capital, but only talks vaguely of his experiments. Cersei then learns of how the faith militant is gaining more momentum than she ever expected.

Scene 2: Cersei sends Mace and Meryn Trant to Braavos to negotiate with the Iron Bank on the crown's debt.

Episode 7

Scene 1: Cersei visits Margaery and acts all innocent telling her that the common people pray for her release.

Scene 2: Olenna is walking down the steps with Tyrell guards. Before she gets on her litter, a young guard presents her a scroll stating her grandchildren's fates and that she should return to Highgarden.

Scene 3: Cersei believes that everything is going well, but her plan backfires when the High Sparrow arrests her for numerous crimes.

Episode 8

Scene 1: Cersei and Margaery argue in the black cells. Septa Unella arrives and tries to get a confession out of Cersei. She only confesses to sleeping with Lancel. Cersei then asks to have a visitor.

Scene 2: Kevan comes to tell Cersei that the common people have turned against her completely. Cersei learns that Margaery and her cousins have been released to the custody of Randyll Tarly (Character Introduction for Season 6). Kevan reveals that Cersei must perform a walk of Penance.

Scene 3: Cersei writes a letter to Jaime requesting his help and hopes that he will return to the capital.

Episode 10

Scene 1: Cersei is brought before the Septas who shave her and strip her naked. Septa Unella escorts Cersei through the streets as the peasants and the common people chant numerous insults at her that tear her apart. When Cersei reaches Fleabottom, the citizens begin throwing stuff at her and she slips for a moment, but tries to keep herself together. Cersei holds back her tears and thinks about Tommen. When she arrives before the doors of the Red Keep, Qyburn places a robe around her and Cersei notices an enormous man in armor beside him. Qyburn tells her that tonight she is to dine with Kevan and Tommen.

Scene 2: Cersei has a crucial conversation with Kevan.

Scene 3: Sometime at night, Kevan is summoned to Pycelle’s chambers and finds a white raven, a sign that winter has arrived. Kevan then finds Pycelle dead and Varys surprisingly appears and reveals to Kevan his plans for Aegon (first time mentioned and if still in the show) or Daenerys to take the Iron Throne. Varys then kills Kevan.

[larastone]

^^

I'm pretty sure Aegon has been cut from the tv show

[alcasinoroyale]

^^

I'm pretty sure Aegon has been cut from the tv show

I edited in something else just now.

[AdmiralKyrd]

snip

I think they almost have to include the Kevan/Cersei dinner from Cersei II, if nothing else than to establish Kevan has some backbone and Tywin's shadow still looms large. They'll have to amend some of the dialogue, and maybe adjust the the conversation so that Kevan will still take a seat on the council at her demand. It sets his character up so well and if Kevan isn't in the Riverlands with Jaime, then he won't have another opportunity for a solid establishment.

Red = lines that almost surely will get into the show somewhere.

Cersei: I know how much my father relied on you, Uncle. Now I must do the same.

Kevan: You need a Hand, and Jaime has refused you.

Cersei: Jaime... I felt so lost with Father dead, I scarce knew what I was saying. Jaime is gallant, but a bit of a fool, let us be frank. Tommen needs a more seasoned man. Someone older...

Kevan: Mace Tyrell is older.

Cersei: Never. The Tyrells overreach themselves.

Kevan: You would be a fool to make Mace Tyrell your Hand... but a bigger fool to make him your foe. I’ve heard what happened in the Hall of Lamps. Mace should have known better than to broach such matters in public, but even so, you were unwise to shame him in front of half the court.

Cersei: Better that than suffer another Tyrell on the council. Rosby will make an adequate master of coin. You’ve seen that litter of his, with its carvings and silk draperies. His horses are better dressed than most knights. A man that rich should have no problem finding gold. As for Handship ... who better to finish my father’s work than the brother who shared all his counsels?

Kevan: Every man needs someone he can trust. Tywin had me, and once your mother.

Cersei: He loved her very much. I know they are together now.

Kevan: So I pray. ... You ask much of me, Cersei.

Cersei: No more than my father did.

Kevan: I am tired. I have a wife I have not seen in two years, a dead son to mourn, another son about to marry and assume a lordship. Castle Darry must be made strong again, its lands protected, its burned fields plowed and planted anew. Lancel needs my help.

Cersei: As does Tommen. The realm needs you.

Kevan: The realm. Aye. And House Lannister. Very well. I will remain and serve His Grace...

Cersei: Very good.

Kevan: ...so long as you name me regent as well as Hand and take yourself back to Casterly Rock.

Cersei: I am the regent.

Kevan: You were. Tywin did not intend that you continue in that role. He told me of his plans to send you back to the Rock and find a new husband for you.

Cersei: He spoke of such, yes. And I told him it was not my wish to wed again.

Kevan: If you are resolved against another marriage, I will not force it on you. As to the other, though... you are the Lady of Casterly Rock now. Your place is there.

Cersei: I am also the Queen Regent. My place is with my son.

Kevan: Your father thought not.

Cersei: My father is dead.

Kevan: To my grief, and the woe of all the realm. Open your eyes and look about you, Cersei. The kingdom is in ruins. Tywin might have been able to set matters aright, but...

Cersei: I shall set matters aright! ... With your help, Uncle. If you will serve me as faithfully as you served my father-

Kevan: You are not your father. And Tywin always regarded Jaime as his rightful heir.

Cersei: Jaime... Jaime has taken vows. Jaime never thinks, he laughs at everything and everyone and says whatever comes into his head. Jaime is a handsome fool.

Kevan: And yet he was your first choice to be the King’s Hand. What does that make you, Cersei?

Cersei: I told you, I was sick with grief, I did not think-

Kevan: No, Which is why you should return to Casterly Rock and leave the king with those who do.

Cersei: The king is my son!

Kevan: Aye, and from what I saw of Joffrey, you are as unfit a mother as you are a ruler.

*She threw the contents of her wine cup full in his face*

Kevan: Your Grace. With your leave, might I withdraw?

Cersei: By what right do you presume to give me terms? You are no more than one of my father’s household knights.

Kevan: I hold no lands, that is true. But I have certain incomes, and chests of coin set aside. My own father forgot none of his children when he died, and Tywin knew how to reward good service. I feed two hundred knights and can double that number if need be. There are freeriders who will follow my banner, and I have the gold to hire sellswords. You would be wise not to take me lightly, Your Grace... and wiser still not to make of me a foe.

Cersei: Are you threatening me?

Kevan: I am counseling you. If you will not yield the regency to me, name me your castellan for Casterly Rock and make either Mathis Rowan or Randyll Tarly the Hand of the King. Mathis Rowan is sensible, prudent, well liked, Randyll Tarly is the finest soldier in the realm. A poor Hand for peacetime, but with Tywin dead there’s no better man to finish this war. Lord Tyrell cannot take offense if you choose one of his own bannermen as Hand. Both Tarly and Rowan are able men ... and loyal. Name either one, and you make him yours. You strengthen yourself and weaken Highgarden, yet Mace will likely thank you for it. That is my counsel, take it or no. You may make Moon Boy your Hand for all I care. My brother is dead, woman. I am going to take him home.

Cersei: You would abandon your king when he needs you most, You would abandon Tommen.

Kevan: Tommen has his mother. Aye ... and his father too, I think.

[alcasinoroyale]

^ I would like to see that scene as well, but I didn't go into detail about it in my outline. So thank you for posting the conversation between them. However, we do not really know yet how many of the other storylines will be in the finale.

[boojam]

IMDB and Wikipedia had Emilia Clarke's birthday wrong too, so I think I'll take Lena's word on the subject. That's why her sleeves are so big on her costumes, so she could hold them in front of her belly in s1. That's why you never see her torso clearly then and she's always sitting down or shot above the waist. It's clear in how different her face looks between s1 and s2 as well. A bunch of other people (cast and producers and whatnot) have mentioned it in commentaries and interviews etc. So I'd have to say Wikipedia's wrong on this count.

I am almost sure Emilia's birthday is right.

That apparently was a cake presented by the Spanish crew and extras and maybe the town of Osuna to Clarke at the end of shooting the last day of the 12 day shoot there.

I notice Emilia was still in costume as we saw when she being applauded by the admiring extras. I think that shoot there was pretty long and involved for it's type.

I amend that!Gezz! they have changed her birthday to Oct. 26th.... that's one day after mine!

[boojam]

Looks away for five minutes and the thread has moved on two "versions"...ok.

Watched the commentaries of the Stannis scenes in S4 last night. That only took a few minutes. so I also watched the "attack on the Dreadfort" scene as Bryan Cogman was doing the commentary on that episode. No new information, but he repeated the fact that Yara fleeing with have big repercussions for her "later". Gemma had also mentioned this on Thronecast last year too.

It seems sure the Yara(Asha) story picks up later next season.

I am guessing that Stannis may not leave the Wall , but Yara will show or be captured or something like that.

Theon will rescue somebody? and show up at the Wall.

Roose may send Ramsay after him with a force maybe to engage Stannis, which will turn out to be a mistake.

It the kind of condensation I would guess at.