JaegrM Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Roose says something to Ramsay along the lines of "No tales were ever told of me." Theon says Roose shows mercy to the squatters in Winterfell by not flaying them. For a long time I'd assume that Roose also enjoyed flaying or hunting people, but besides these two lines which could be read as evidence to the contrary and being a scary dude in general is there any evidence that Roose has any similar hobbies as Ramsay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James of the Blackwater Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 as they say, The nut don't fall far from the tree, perhaps Roose is just smarter about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 He rapes people, knows about human skin making mediocre clothes or shoes and in the show George wanted a scene introducing him flaying somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaegrM Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 He rapes people, knows about human skin making mediocre clothes or shoes and in the show George wanted a scene introducing him flaying somebody. The knowing of Human skin thing can be explained away easily with like...a family cookbook passed down through the years or even just having a Maester. The other part about GRRM wanting that scene in the show... I'd be super interested in reading that interview, or knowing the context of the comment. Sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrunkenDornishman Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Well, Roose seems to know from experience that human skin makes inferior leather for boots, so there's that :p To me, it seems like Roose's view towards Ramsay's behavior is like Tywin's view towards Tyrion's whoring. Neither are technically against their son's behavior, exactly (especially since they indulge in the same habits, respectively) ...they just expect some discretion, damn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The knowing of Human skin thing can be explained away easily with like...a family cookbook passed down through the years or even just having a Maester. The other part about GRRM wanting that scene in the show... I'd be super interested in reading that interview, or knowing the context of the comment. Sounds interesting. I don't have a link or even any clue where to find the interview. It was from a long times ago season 1 or maybe 2 he said he wanted scenes for all the big vassals when Robb called the banners so Greatjon would be drinking, roose flaying and I think the other was the Mormont's on their ships. But it would have been more than their budget for the entire season. That is all what I remember so likely not all correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaegrM Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well... like presently. my take on Roose is like.... I can't see him enjoying it. And unless the whole Roose is a vampire/Other theory is actually true I can't see him indulging in it. And I just can't bring myself to believing those theories as interesting as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnViserion Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think Roose use to be much like Ramsay, maybe more discreet. I think he credits the leechings for making him more docile. Even now he's a pretty sadistic dude so I would say yes he has similar tastes to Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBazooka Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He definitely rapes and flays, but he's just way more discreet about it and isn't wild and out of control like Ramsay. I can't see Roose going on hunts like Ramsay does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He isn't like Ramsey. Ramsey is brash and full of rage. He makes his cruelty known. He is not one for formal training. His skill at arms stems from his aggression and brutality. Roose on the other hand is calm, calculating, and reserved. "A peaceful land, a quiet people." He never raises his voice. The only thing they really have in common is their eyes and their love of manipulating people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Goat Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Roose is a sadist, and we know that he rapes and murders as he will. He also seem to know alot about flaying, and he loves to psychologically torment others for his own amusement. All things considered I'd say that Roose definitly has done just as twisted things as Ramsay. He's just discreeet about it ("no tales were ever told of me"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivora Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Roose is just way, way, way cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdallah Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Roose seems to be alittle less flay happy. He's also into fat chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He isn't like Ramsey. Ramsey is brash and full of rage. He makes his cruelty known. He is not one for formal training. His skill at arms stems from his aggression and brutality. Roose on the other hand is calm, calculating, and reserved. "A peaceful land, a quiet people." He never raises his voice. The only thing they really have in common is their eyes and their love of manipulating people :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnViserion Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think young Roose (assuming he's not an ancient skin changing creature) was more vicious than aged Roose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Isn't Ramsay just the "poordoneby bastard" who wasn't actually raised Bolton? He had a single mother and a smelly babysitter, right? Ramsay tries to impress Roose with his zany antics, so I'm thinking he must have heard something about his Bolton heritage. Legends, rumors, gossip--but about what??? This is how he aims to impress his Lord Father? Roose knows Ramsay killed Domeric and seems to be OK fine with it. Did Roose put him up to it? Was Roose impressed? There might be something to it because Roose is one creepy weird guy. Outside of a few words of warning, Roose doesn't try very hard to curb Ramsay's er, interests and hobbies. Ancient family cookbook indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Roose's "hunting" seems to be of a more conventional kind than Ramsay's. He's willing to rape, but mostly enjoys normal sex. Ramsay only seems able to derive sexual pleasure from rape and torture. He is totally cruel, but his cruelty is strategic, whereas for Ramsay, cruelty is done out of anger or for sexual gratification. I'm sure Roose has carried out flayings, but he's not obsessed like Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Estellion Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Roose loves being in control. Torture and rape are perfect to feel in control as he has absoulte power over his victim. He raped Ramsay's mother because she married without his consent, making him feel without control. Whenever Roose feels in control however he is entirely pragmatic and can be friendly and polite. Ramsay on the other hand needs violence as his raison d´être. For him it is not a way to his goal, it is the goal. That is the main difference and is why Roose is able to hide his crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah.jenice Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 What's done to the servants - especially Pia and the other women who had sex with Lannister men - when the northmen take over Harrenhall in ACOK is pretty brutal, and since Roose is in command, it was most likely his orders. "Tothmure had been sent to the axe for dispatching birds to Casterly Rock and King's Landing the night Harrenhall had fallen, Lucan the armorer for making weapons for the Lannisters, Goodwife Harra for telling Lady Whent's household to serve them, the steward for giving Lord Tywin the keys to the treasure vault. The cook was spared (some said because he'd made the weasel soup), but stocks were hammered together for pretty Pia and the other women who'd shared their favors with Lannister soldiers. Stripped and shaved, they were left in the middle ward beside the bear pit, free for the use of any man who wanted them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaera Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Unless I've missed something (which is entirely possible), I don't see Roose as being the type to hunt, flay, rape just for the lols, as Ramsay does. Sure, Roose has done these things, but with justification (even if we don't agree with it). I can't see Roose hunting down random women and then raping, killing and flaying them just for the fun of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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