God-Emperor of Yi Ti Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 6 hours ago, med1 said: I have a feeling that Cersei is going to have WF planted under the Sept and have it blown up. That would meet the vision of a WF explosion from Bran. Not sure what else could meet that unless his visions also count what was being planned to occur, but never did, during the Mad Kings reign. At this point though the only real way to deal with the FM would be a covert nuke which will, of course, backfire on Cersei since she never thinks anything through. i wouldn't be amazed if you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Toad Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Freaking Elmo's fire has every leprechaun looking for a rainbow. Wildfire was a process of alchemistic pyromancy that wasn't lost in the doom of Valyria, does it therefore create Qyburn's necromanic amusements. Something has been quite lost in literal translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Winter Blues said: Cersei is not going to burn Kings Landing. Margery is going to burn the Sept. The show has this way of making people know things without explaining how they know in a way that makes sense. This will be one of those times. She finds out that there is wildfire under the Sept, already. Wait! You said that Marge found out that there is wildfire under Baelor? When did that happen? Do you really think even Aerys would store ordnance under a church, or was this done earlier? Wasn’t Tyrion told that some of the old wildfire had gone missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 8 hours ago, med1 said: At this point though the only real way to deal with the FM would be a covert nuke which will, of course, backfire on Cersei since she never thinks anything through. I know that Faceless Men are said to have had a hand in the Doom that blew up Valyria, but why would they have a beef against Cersei? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourneblade Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Just now, CrypticWeirwood said: Wait! You said that Marge found out that there is wildfire under Baelor? When did that happen? Do you really think even Aerys would store ordnance under a church, or was this done earlier? Wasn’t Tyrion told that some of the old wildfire had gone missing? Spoiler According to the Books there was still tons of WF unaccounted for when the Mad king had WF placed under the entire city As to Margery, interesting theory but like you, do not think she knows about the WF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Mourneblade said: Hide contents According to the Books there was still tons of WF unaccounted for when the Mad king had WF placed under the entire city As to Margery, interesting theory but like you, do not think she knows about the WF. Yeah, I don’t see how Marge could possibly know where the pyromancers’ piss is hidden. That seems more like a job for Varys, who had the ear of Aerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into the Weirwood Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Nerevanin said: Reveal hidden contents In fact, the fact that he still loves her in the show can make it way more tragic. Like, he killed Aerys, the man he swore to protect, because Aerys wanted to kill hundreds of innocent people, to burn them all. So Jaime chose to save the people instead of fulfil his duty. If Cersei loses it and tries to burn KL down, Jaime could kill her like he killed Aerys, for the same reason, but this time he would give up on love instead of duty. It really makes me feel like it's all wraping up. It's true. I think it'd be really interesting for the Cersei/Jamie story to end like this. Jamie is one of my favorite characters in the books because of his evolution. The relationship with his sister is such a big part of who he is, his entire life is built around it, so watching his whole foundation breaking apart (slowly in the books, abruptly in the show if he kills Cersei) is an intriguing way to develop his character even more. In my head I just don't see Jamie in King's Landing in the event Cersei ever went mad, considering how things were left in the books... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Toad Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Didn't the Wildfire cause Dany to become burnproof, I mean the good king Aerys was mixing it into her baby formula. The experiment must work, because he needed the male heirs for other lordships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 "Burn them all" might be Bran/3ER hodoring Mad Aerys' brain in the past, while trying to "burn them all" in the presence. Aerys heard whispers and at this point it is pretty sure, that he wasn't just plainly hearing random voices. PS: I haven't read all the posts at this point, so if this repeats sth already discussed, sorry for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 5 hours ago, CrypticWeirwood said: I know that Faceless Men are said to have had a hand in the Doom that blew up Valyria, but why would they have a beef against Cersei? Doesn't med1 mean the Faith Militant, not Faceless Men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oconuur Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 16 hours ago, Mourneblade said: Hide contents Jamie gonna kill Cersie IMHO To me, the valenquar plot with jaime and cersei is not as likely as another little brother....no not tyrion! The hound/grave digger, it makes sense to me (if theorys are correct) that maybe clegane bowl will happen and if he wins, he will see whats been done to his brother...made a monster/abomination against the gods and will seek to give the 7s justice to cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Rose Crown Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The scene with the wild fire blowing up doesn't look like KL. You can see the pyromancers pouring the WF in the fruit-shaped pots. When it blows up, the room has kegs. My theory is that it is blowing up in summer hall, and Bran is see Aegon die trying to hatch a dragon egg while Rhaegar is born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, Winter Rose Crown said: The scene with the wild fire blowing up doesn't look like KL. You can see the pyromancers pouring the WF in the fruit-shaped pots. When it blows up, the room has kegs. My theory is that it is blowing up in summer hall, and Bran is see Aegon die trying to hatch a dragon egg while Rhaegar is born. The room with the kegs is the same one holding all the wildfyre that Tyrion is shown in the second series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 23 hours ago, Into the Weirwood said: What if Jamie died? Would Cersei go mad as well? It's gonna be Tommen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Rose Crown Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 45 minutes ago, CrypticWeirwood said: The room with the kegs is the same one holding all the wildfyre that Tyrion is shown in the second series. Ah, lame. I was hoping to see summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 In the vision we saw the cache of wildfire exploding. That didn't happen during Robert's Rebellion. I think Cersei will lose her trial, perhaps Tommen will die, and she will have the city destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran the Shipper Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 18 hours ago, Winter Blues said: Cersei is not going to burn Kings Landing. Margery is going to burn the Sept. The show has this way of making people know things without explaining how they know in a way that makes sense. This will be one of those times. She finds out that there is wildfire under the Sept, already. Shes entirely manipulative and the is no way she's in cahoots with the Faith after what they did to her brother. Plus, it would be just like the show to do something as stupid as having Margery burn the place down, killing herself and Tommen in the process. I do like this theory that Margaery will burn King's Landing, though I don't think she'll know about the hidden stashes of wildfire. Instead she likely smuggles some into the Sept and has it burned down that way. But then the flames reach the hidden stash and lead to a chain reaction that engulfs the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatthebar Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Did Bran break the Mad King, or at least influence him, on purpose? The idea of Bran breaking Aerys by mistake and setting everything up seems sorta cheap to me, as I think it does to others. This is all because a time traveler goofed? Whoopsie! But what if Bran needed the wildfire to be created and hidden beneath King's Landing by Aerys ... entirely so it could be found there 20 years later and used (maybe by Cersei, maybe someone else) to advance Bran's (possibly tragic but nevertheless necessary) anti-zombie agenda? This seems like it would require all the White Walkers to be in King's Landing, which seems a little bit unlikely. But we do expect snow in a burned-out throne room, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lash Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 3:44 PM, johnatthebar said: Did Bran break the Mad King, or at least influence him, on purpose? The idea of Bran breaking Aerys by mistake and setting everything up seems sorta cheap to me, as I think it does to others. This is all because a time traveler goofed? Whoopsie! But what if Bran needed the wildfire to be created and hidden beneath King's Landing by Aerys ... entirely so it could be found there 20 years later and used (maybe by Cersei, maybe someone else) to advance Bran's (possibly tragic but nevertheless necessary) anti-zombie agenda? This seems like it would require all the White Walkers to be in King's Landing, which seems a little bit unlikely. But we do expect snow in a burned-out throne room, after all. I am only posting here to get this dudes face off my mobile. I can't take it anymore, it's been there for like over a day and i am done. Someone please give me the gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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