Free Northman Reborn Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 30 minutes ago, TheKitttenGuard said: You really have been paying attention over the last 5 years. The two state is dead for the hard right in Israel and U.S want their establish of Ancient Israel and peace can be damn. I for one am cool with the re establishment of Ancient Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: It would be a mistake, but you're probably right. I'm beginning to believe that we are going to bear witness to an endless string of mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Commodore said: Obama now just pissing on the ashes of the party he left in shambles Gonna be full YOLO mode for the next month How exactly did he leave it in shambles? I keep seeing statements like this coming mostly from the alt right, and they simply do not follow logically. We have this rule, perhaps you're aware of it, that only allows a President to serve two terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Free Northman Reborn said: I for one am cool with the re establishment of Ancient Israel. I am sure you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Free Northman Reborn said: I for one am cool with the re establishment of Ancient Israel. How about the Caliphate of Córdoba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 23 hours ago, Rippounet said: Foreign Affairs had an article about "the trouble with ceding climate leadership to China." https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2016-12-20/trouble-ceding-climate-leadership-china It has a huge economic opportunity cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, James Arryn said: How about the Caliphate of Córdoba? That's just silly. Too much alliteration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, Commodore said: Obama now just pissing on the ashes of the party he left in shambles Just now, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: How exactly did he leave it in shambles? I keep seeing statements like this coming mostly from the alt right, and they simply do not follow logically. We have this rule, perhaps you're aware of it, that only allows a President to serve two terms. Yeah, I too wonder how Obama left the party in "shambles". Sounds like conservatives making shit up again. http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx For a clearer example of guy leaving something in shambles, see: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, James Arryn said: How about the Caliphate of Córdoba? That assumes that I am impartial in my decrees for Ancient State recreation. I most assuredly am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 20 hours ago, LongRider said: he said;he said about that swamp thing: http://www.npr.org/2016/12/22/506611986/trump-and-gingrich-disagree-on-that-whole-swamp-draining-thing It's simple really, Trump wants to fill the swamp in order drain it. Russian swamp water is the best really. I mean, it's fantastic. When we refill the swamp we will use only the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, OldGimletEye said: eah, I too wonder how Obama left the party in "shambles". Probably shambles, because the Democrats want a bit more coherent answers from their party than Jebus, Guns, trickle down economics, and planned parenthood kills babies. I forgot something, ah right, stop feeding the poor damn nanny state. You have to know your audience. So Dubya at least left their base more or less happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: I'm beginning to believe that we are going to bear witness to an endless string of mistakes. Agreed. What should we set the over/under at? 16 minutes ago, BloodRider said: It has a huge economic opportunity cost. The economic cost means little compared to losing our place in the global hierarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, Notone said: Probably shambles, because the Democrats want a bit more coherent answers from their party than Thay might me true. But, given Obama's popularity with the party and the fact he does pretty well with independents too, it is extremely hard to make the case that Obama left the party in shambles. I'm just not seeing the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Because it really isn't there. Replace Obama's name with Hillary and you can more or less make a case. Though, this might be just me beating on that dead horse again, but DNC leadership and direction of the party is somewhat of an open question for the moment. And Obama won't be able to help the party out that much, apart from campaigning every four years or so for the nominee, and possibly in a few select senatorial or gubernatorial races. Biden is probably a bit too old, to reenter the arena in four years. And Schumer is hopefully not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: How exactly did he leave it in shambles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Yeah, it's a load of bullshit so large that I don't think even @Commodore himself could hope to lift it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, Commodore said: I'm not disputing that the party is in shambles, that is self-evident. Break out your shovel and give me a scoop of how Obama is responsible, which is what you implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Agreed. What should we set the over/under at? The economic cost means little compared to losing our place in the global hierarchy. Six in one hand, really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: I'm beginning to believe that we are going to bear witness to an endless string of mistakes. Beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, BloodRider said: Six in one, really.... Seems low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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