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22 hours ago, First of My Name said:

:P Since you asked, the short but NSFW version...

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I met him on a dating app a while ago but first met up with him on Wednesday and had a great time. Then I went again on Friday, spent the night, and slept with him in the morning :blush: Which admittedly was probably moving too fast, but I'm pretty into him. He's really pretty, has a great smile, an interesting personality and shares a ton of hobbies with me. He lives pretty far away but I'm seeing him again next week. I'm not sure where it's going, but this is probably the most excited I've been about a guy I dated.

 

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I doubt this is not the worst thing that has been shared on this forum by a large margin. :P

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22 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

How does that depend on the size of the country? :o I mean it's totally customary to commute an hour to work. In fact you can't even not commute at least 30 minutes within the city. My friend commutes 1-1.5 hours to uni and she lives in the same city as I do and as her uni is. My mom also commutes 1.5 hours to work when she isn't working from home (which is 2-3 days a week).

Nope, here it is not customary to commute an hour to work. In my country, an hour would be considered a long commute. People try to arrange their lives so that their place of residence and job are close to each other.

In 1.5 hours by car (which is how most people travel), one can cover half the country.

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I like this city too, but the neighborhoods I would live in make up for maybe 15% of it. The non-city center here is either crappy or 1-1.5 hour commute from where you'd have a job/go to school. There are a couple nice areas in a half an hour distance from places one would frequent, but those are the impossible to afford category. I really miss my "old" neighborhood, it was truly dreamy. I guess I just need to get used to this one and when the furniture situation is better, I'll be able to fully enjoy this flat.

Of course you will. ;) We will need pictures of your new flat after all this talk of it! :P

Pity you had to leave the old neighbourhood, I assume there were no affordable flats there? But you will surely enjoy the new one after you get used to it too.

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Well, if you do it, it will be done there too :P seriously, it's not "the done thing" here either, partly because the economy sucks and families can't afford to rely on only one income and partly because it's a socialist and/or modern female role custom (dependent on which generation you ask). there are definitely examples, mostly in families with at least 3 kids and upper class (I know stay-at-home moms among friends and extended family as well) And during toddler years, it is the done thing to stay home with one's kids. Middle class Gen Y seems to be breaking that tradition though. 

Same here as far as feelings go, but we do have a generous amount of indefinite jobs on the market. 

My god, I've never experienced anything like that here. I don't know if that's a thing in the outer city, I actually don't think so. but in the areas I've lived in, the worst thing is the general cleanliness of the streets, the people and the infrastructure and the noise. My previous neighborhood was A level in all those aspects, the current one is okay, it just passes with a C. Dumbass college students are loud (no offense, fomn) there's a piping construction so the cleanliness isn't the best at the moment, but the infrastructure is fine and the people aren't too bad. It's certainly within the I dare to walk home alone after 10pm line. 

I would absolutely love staying home and raising a family. Contrary to common belief home making IS work and a lot of it. Of course I might change my mind if I actually get to try it, but I don't see myself getting bored at all. I love staying home and creating a tidy living space and fussing around other people and I love family life.

I only know one family that works like this here, and personally I think their arrangement was a mistake because of several reasons (not that the whole concept of having the mother stay at home is a mistake, just their case). Okay, I heard of one other family that did it, but they had a farm, so the mother was fully involved with farm work.

Thanks, but ... no thanks. :P I can see myself be intellectually bored and miss contact with humans (which is weird considering that I am not the most sociable person, but still) as I do when I spend some days at home and I am not such a fan of domestic chores and I would hate not earning money to contribute to the family finances.

I would never phrase the situation as "economy sucks and families cannot rely on one income" as that implies most families want to do that, which to my best knowledge, they don't. I would more likely say "economy sucks and people cannot find jobs" - talking about both men and women. I see it as a normal thing that both parents work and contribute to the family finances. Yes, it is something of a socialist model, that is also when kindergartens became more common. Children go to kindergartens or are maybe taken care of by grandparents for a year or a nanny or another arrangement. Mothers usually go back to work when the child is about one year old.

As an aside, that was one of the things that I wondered about most when reading Harry Potter. Molly Weasly never seemed to go to work. The family was said to be poor, and Molly Weasley just stayed at home. I did not understand the situation at all, why she was always home when Arthur came home from work. Why didn't she ever go to work? That is how little of a concept staying at home as a mother and housewife was for me until not that long ago. :read:

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35 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

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I doubt this is not the worst thing that has been shared on this forum by a large margin. :P

*points to everything @rocksniffer ever drew*

 

Nope, here it is not customary to commute an hour to work. In my country, an hour would be considered a long commute. People try to arrange their lives so that their place of residence and job are close to each other.

In 1.5 hours by car (which is how most people travel), one can cover half the country.

Of course you will. ;) We will need pictures of your new flat after all this talk of it! :P

Pity you had to leave the old neighbourhood, I assume there were no affordable flats there? But you will surely enjoy the new one after you get used to it too.

I only know one family that works like this here, and personally I think their arrangement was a mistake because of several reasons (not that the whole concept of having the mother stay at home is a mistake, just their case). Okay, I heard of one other family that did it, but they had a farm, so the mother was fully involved with farm work.

Thanks, but ... no thanks. :P I can see myself be intellectually bored and miss contact with humans (which is weird considering that I am not the most sociable person, but still) as I do when I spend some days at home and I am not such a fan of domestic chores and I would hate not earning money to contribute to the family finances.

I would never phrase the situation as "economy sucks and families cannot rely on one income" as that implies most families want to do that, which to my best knowledge, they don't. I would more likely say "economy sucks and people cannot find jobs" - talking about both men and women. I see it as a normal thing that both parents work and contribute to the family finances. Yes, it is something of a socialist model, that is also when kindergartens became more common. Children go to kindergartens or are maybe taken care of by grandparents for a year or a nanny or another arrangement. Mothers usually go back to work when the child is about one year old.

As an aside, that was one of the things that I wondered about most when reading Harry Potter. Molly Weasly never seemed to go to work. The family was said to be poor, and Molly Weasley just stayed at home. I did not understand the situation at all, why she was always home when Arthur came home from work. Why didn't she ever go to work? That is how little of a concept staying at home as a mother and housewife was for me until not that long ago. :read:

Sure, one can cover close to half of this country in 1.5 hours by car too - on the motorway. Within the city, traffic is quite different.  From the eastern suburbs to a job in the western half of the city, one easily commutes 1.5 hours by public transport or by car, even though it's only like 25kms apart.

err, I mean I can take pictures as soon as I have all the furniture. So count on them in December :lol: or I can just stop talking about my flat and not annoy/bore you guys. 

Yeah that's a fair distinction. I would say women who would want to can't afford staying home because the economy sucks and they need the money. And I would say the majority doesn't want to because they prefer to work or feel like they have to because that's the socially expected thing to do. In the vast majority of families both parents work full time and mothers get 3 years of state supported maternity leave. I think it's becoming more and more common to not stay home for the full 3 years but go back to work as soon as the child can be put into daycare. 

Erm, because they had a family of 7 as well as chickens and pigs, and households don't run themselves? :eek: it's not like Mrs Weasley was watching tv at home all day. Aunt Petunia didn't work either and they had only one child. I guess it's more common in the U.K. for moms to stay at home? That's just a wild guess, correct me if I'm wrong, UK posters.

I started watching the 100 and it's sooooooooo bad. Okay, this was only the pilot. Let's give it a second chance. 

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22 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

Beware Tindr my young paddawan, for the app is dark and full of creeps :P 

(I have made me share of I'll-advised decision on Tindr, mostly when I felt bad about myself for some reason or another already. Sue me, I'm only human)

Trust me, I know. And ironically what you describe is basically the reason the first date happened :P 

45 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

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I doubt this is not the worst thing that has been shared on this forum by a large margin. :P

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I'm positive it's not, I left out all the dirty, copious details.

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1 hour ago, First of My Name said:

Trust me, I know. And ironically what you describe is basically the reason the first date happened :P 

I'm positive it's not, I left out all the dirty, copious details.

Oh I've met some real characters in my lower moments believe me. If I didn't laugh about it I'd probably just despair :lol: 

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5 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

Oh god this show... 

If I had seen this earlier I would have warned you. 

I stared watching Jack Taylor, because you know, Iain Glen. I actually kind of like it though it is sorta cheesy. It has good reviews on IMDb but on Netflix it's like 3 stars *shrug* 

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10 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

Which show are you watching now?

The 100 and around episode 5 it's maybe showing signs of improvement but the main character is the wiki definition of Mary Sue.

5 hours ago, Lady Olenna said:

If I had seen this earlier I would have warned you. 

I stared watching Jack Taylor, because you know, Iain Glen. I actually kind of like it though it is sorta cheesy. It has good reviews on IMDb but on Netflix it's like 3 stars *shrug* 

Oh I was considering Red Tent for the same reason, but I'm not sure the story intrigues me enough to dive into it. I'll watch anything with Jason Momoa but Ian glen just isn't quite hot enough to make me watch something I'm not that interested in. 

 

And it's finally parka weather! For a day or two, summer will be back for the weekend. And because I know everybody loves the song of Rhaenys and furniture, my vanity is arriving in the afternoon. Okay, okay, I'll stop. 

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12 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

Oh I've met some real characters in my lower moments believe me. If I didn't laugh about it I'd probably just despair :lol: 

I quite enjoyed my experiences at Uni (when I went the first time) didn't really have anyone I really regretted.

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5 hours ago, Lord Sidious said:

I quite enjoyed my experiences at Uni (when I went the first time) didn't really have anyone I really regretted.

What can I say, I have poor impulse control, low self-esteem and make terrible decisions. There were bound to be some I regretted

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22 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

err, I mean I can take pictures as soon as I have all the furniture. So count on them in December :lol: or I can just stop talking about my flat and not annoy/bore you guys. 

Naaah, it is fun! I like your posts.

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Yeah that's a fair distinction. I would say women who would want to can't afford staying home because the economy sucks and they need the money. And I would say the majority doesn't want to because they prefer to work or feel like they have to because that's the socially expected thing to do. In the vast majority of families both parents work full time and mothers get 3 years of state supported maternity leave. I think it's becoming more and more common to not stay home for the full 3 years but go back to work as soon as the child can be put into daycare. 

Wow, 3 years sounds like a lot. Here it is one year I think? And part of if can be shared by the father. Or something.

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Erm, because they had a family of 7 as well as chickens and pigs, and households don't run themselves? :eek: it's not like Mrs Weasley was watching tv at home all day. Aunt Petunia didn't work either and they had only one child. I guess it's more common in the U.K. for moms to stay at home? That's just a wild guess, correct me if I'm wrong, UK posters.

Oh, I did not imply she was watching TV all day (only muggles do that anyway :p). I was just trying to explain how a stay at home mum was not even a concept to me when I first read those and I could not explain the situation to myself.

Though to be honest, in the time the books take place, the kids are all off at Hogwarts most of the year, and even when they are home, they are grown up enough to handle themselves during the day. Even help a lot with chickens and all.

Is there such a thing as wizard childcare in the HP world for children whose both parents (or if they have a single parent) work? If not, I might want to rethink my undying wish for a Hogwarts letter. :read:

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44 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

Naaah, it is fun! I like your posts.

Wow, 3 years sounds like a lot. Here it is one year I think? And part of if can be shared by the father. Or something.

Oh, I did not imply she was watching TV all day (only muggles do that anyway :p). I was just trying to explain how a stay at home mum was not even a concept to me when I first read those and I could not explain the situation to myself.

Though to be honest, in the time the books take place, the kids are all off at Hogwarts most of the year, and even when they are home, they are grown up enough to handle themselves during the day. Even help a lot with chickens and all.

Is there such a thing as wizard childcare in the HP world for children whose both parents (or if they have a single parent) work? If not, I might want to rethink my undying wish for a Hogwarts letter. :read:

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Okay then, but you guys can totally tell me if it gets annoying and I'll stop talking about it. 

Yeah fathers can take some time off for a new baby too, not sure how much time that is. 

I know, I guess I just jump at every opportunity to stress that housework is work too even if it's unpaid and under appreciated.

hmm, good point! I totally didn't think about how hogwarts is a boarding school. Well I don't know what information we have about molly during school year. Maybe she does something or maybe she has a wizard Etsy shop for knit-ware or maybe she doesn't work because she doesn't have a degree? Is there a wizard university? And the daycare of course... Now that I think about it we know very little about these things. 

 

I'm starting to warm to The 100. I'm such a shallow person with such cliche triggers. All it takes is a cross cultural love story between a ripped, hard-shell-soft-core dude and a badass damsel to get me on board. Oh well I would be me if I weren't a sucker for that. :lol: 

 

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The last 3 episodes of jack taylor were not worth watching. Boo. Now on to finding the next show...

Stay-at-home momming was the absolute hardest job I've ever had and I've had some grueling jobs. It's so much more work than "work". But also much more rewarding, imo. I had to go back to work because my son needed a very, very structured learning environment that I wasn't able to provide on my own. Now that we've moved and I'm looking for work again, it amazes me how quickly the day flies by. I don't get nearly as much done as I want to. 

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15 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

What can I say, I have poor impulse control, low self-esteem and make terrible decisions. There were bound to be some I regretted

Yeah I hear you, I think my main one was developing feelings for someone when it was just a casual thing, that hurt a bit, but it all worked out in the end :).

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14 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

Okay then, but you guys can totally tell me if it gets annoying and I'll stop talking about it.

Nah, your flat updates are what keeps the thread alive these days. ;)

14 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

I know, I guess I just jump at every opportunity to stress that housework is work too even if it's unpaid and under appreciated.

Of course. I do not think anybody here disagrees.

14 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

hmm, good point! I totally didn't think about how hogwarts is a boarding school. Well I don't know what information we have about molly during school year. Maybe she does something or maybe she has a wizard Etsy shop for knit-ware or maybe she doesn't work because she doesn't have a degree? Is there a wizard university? And the daycare of course... Now that I think about it we know very little about these things.

Wizard Etsy shop is totally something Molly would do.

I think there must be a wizard university, Hogwarts is like high school for them. When Harry was considering becoming an auror, he was told that there is a three-year additional training for that. So I assume there must be different programmes depending on what you want to become. :read:

I was wondering what children do until they are 11 and they go off to Hogwarts. Do they just go to muggle school? If not, how do they convince the muggle society around them that they are not irresponsible parents who don't want their children educated? Is homeschooling common enough in Britain to convince them of that? There does not seem to be a wizard primary school, which is odd.

14 hours ago, RhaenysB said:

I'm starting to warm to The 100. I'm such a shallow person with such cliche triggers. All it takes is a cross cultural love story between a ripped, hard-shell-soft-core dude and a badass damsel to get me on board. Oh well I would be me if I weren't a sucker for that. :lol:

Okay, now to the other topics ... why are you still not watching Crazy Ex? :P I am obsessed with this show now.

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33 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

Nah, your flat updates are what keeps the thread alive these days. ;)

Of course. I do not think anybody here disagrees.

Wizard Etsy shop is totally something Molly would do.

I think there must be a wizard university, Hogwarts is like high school for them. When Harry was considering becoming an auror, he was told that there is a three-year additional training for that. So I assume there must be different programmes depending on what you want to become. :read:

I was wondering what children do until they are 11 and they go off to Hogwarts. Do they just go to muggle school? If not, how do they convince the muggle society around them that they are not irresponsible parents who don't want their children educated? Is homeschooling common enough in Britain to convince them of that? There does not seem to be a wizard primary school, which is odd.

Okay, now to the other topics ... why are you still not watching Crazy Ex? :P I am obsessed with this show now.

I think Season three starts next month!

There are clearly many elements of her world JK Rowling did not think through fully :P Although, being set in the 90s (I think?) makes things a little more understandable. Otherwise people from the local councils would be making visits to wizarding families demanding to know why little Luna wasn't in school today?

Also, maybe Molly did badly in her OWLs and NEWTs. Or simply decided she would rather stay at home. And as far as Hogwarts being a boarding school, it is only during the Chamber of Secrets that she finally has no children to look after throughout the year. Presumably she looked after and perhaps home-schooled them until Hogwarts. I imagine in old wizarding families like theirs that would be the common approach. I think some families would probably send them to Muggle school though. Oh, and the Weasleys are obviously known in their local area. In Goblet of Fire Fred and George go to the village to show a muggle girl their card tricks that are "almost like real magic." So I guess there is some cover story about boarding school and home schooling.

On a related note, hem practising Quidditch has to be one of the most stupid things possible in terms of avoiding detection if there is a village only a short walk away. You know what people do in rural villages? Go for walks!

Just think, that is potentially 20+ years since she last held a job. It can be difficult enough for women to return to work after one child, but Molly took a significant portion of her life and devoted it to her children. That creates a lot of barriers if she should want to return to work.

 

while we are Harry Potter speculating, I wonder what happened to Mrs Weasley's side of the family. Do we ever meet them? Or are they all from Arthur's side?

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16 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

Naaah, it is fun! I like your posts.

Wow, 3 years sounds like a lot. Here it is one year I think? And part of if can be shared by the father. Or something.

Oh, I did not imply she was watching TV all day (only muggles do that anyway :p). I was just trying to explain how a stay at home mum was not even a concept to me when I first read those and I could not explain the situation to myself.

Though to be honest, in the time the books take place, the kids are all off at Hogwarts most of the year, and even when they are home, they are grown up enough to handle themselves during the day. Even help a lot with chickens and all.

Is there such a thing as wizard childcare in the HP world for children whose both parents (or if they have a single parent) work? If not, I might want to rethink my undying wish for a Hogwarts letter. :read:

:P

Why would you want a Hogwarts letter?, join me and learn the ways of the Force (it's mostly home schooling with lots of practical field trips).

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3 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

I think Season three starts next month!

I think so too! Do we have a thread about it on here?

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There are clearly many elements of her world JK Rowling did not think through fully :P Although, being set in the 90s (I think?) makes things a little more understandable. Otherwise people from the local councils would be making visits to wizarding families demanding to know why little Luna wasn't in school today?

Also, maybe Molly did badly in her OWLs and NEWTs. Or simply decided she would rather stay at home. And as far as Hogwarts being a boarding school, it is only during the Chamber of Secrets that she finally has no children to look after throughout the year. Presumably she looked after and perhaps home-schooled them until Hogwarts. I imagine in old wizarding families like theirs that would be the common approach. I think some families would probably send them to Muggle school though. Oh, and the Weasleys are obviously known in their local area. In Goblet of Fire Fred and George go to the village to show a muggle girl their card tricks that are "almost like real magic." So I guess there is some cover story about boarding school and home schooling.

On a related note, hem practising Quidditch has to be one of the most stupid things possible in terms of avoiding detection if there is a village only a short walk away. You know what people do in rural villages? Go for walks!

Just think, that is potentially 20+ years since she last held a job. It can be difficult enough for women to return to work after one child, but Molly took a significant portion of her life and devoted it to her children. That creates a lot of barriers if she should want to return to work.

How did the 90s differ from the 2010s in this regard? I would assume local councils would do that in the 90s too.

Also, some cover story about board school and home schooling, and maybe a healthy does of confundus charm? If that is not illegal though.

I think one of the characters even said that was dangerous ... or am I making stuff up?

Yes, I agree that after so many years away from the workforce, it would be very hard if she tried to enter it again.

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while we are Harry Potter speculating, I wonder what happened to Mrs Weasley's side of the family. Do we ever meet them? Or are they all from Arthur's side?

Molly had a muggle uncle, who was an accountant. Also one of the Weasley boys inherited a watch from Molly's uncle Fabian or something like that? Now that I think of it, I do not remember Arthur's family members being mentioned.

I am not even sure whose side of the family Muriel was from. Was she Molly's or Arthur's aunt?

3 hours ago, Lord Sidious said:

Why would you want a Hogwarts letter?, join me and learn the ways of the Force (it's mostly home schooling with lots of practical field trips).

Oh come on, everyone wishes for a Hogwarts letter, admit it. ;)

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