Davjos Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I have a question for some of the forum member with a better memory than me. If I recall correctly there are some strong hints that Viserys and Daenerys weren't together the whole time before Illyrio. I don't really know where this idea in my head comes from, so I was hoping someone could help me with this. From memory the main hints they were seperated for some time during their youth was their difference in education (Dany speaking Valyrian while Viserys doesn't etc) and the 'House with the Red Door'. If anyone could help me, Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I am not aware of any such hints. It might not be stated explicitly, but I think the near certain implication is that they were together from Daenerys’s birth to Viserys’s death. Perhaps the illemonati can illuminate the issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davjos Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks @Lost Melnibonean. I wonder why I have that idea in my head then haha. Must come from some old 'Dany isn't Dany' essay on Reddit or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost+Nymeria4Eva Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Ethelarion said: I have a question for some of the forum member with a better memory than me. If I recall correctly there are some strong hints that Viserys and Daenerys weren't together the whole time before Illyrio. I don't really know where this idea in my head comes from, so I was hoping someone could help me with this. From memory the main hints they were seperated for some time during their youth was their difference in education (Dany speaking Valyrian while Viserys doesn't etc) and the 'House with the Red Door'. If anyone could help me, Thanks! They were always together. Dany doesn't remember ever being separated from Viserys, and he doesn't speak of the time they were separated either. And neither were educated. Dany learns to speak Valyrian living in the Free Cities. It's considered a bastard form of Valyrian, as opposed to "high" Valyrian spoken or written in Valyria about 300 years ago, before the Doom. The house with the red door is where Dany remembers growing up. She considers it her "home." There, Dany and Viserys is taken care of by Ser Willem Darry, who safely gets them out of Dragonstone and into Essos. Dany likes it there because she has her own room with a lemon tree outside. Then Ser Willem dies and the servants steal what little money they had and kicks Dany and her brother to the streets. Afterwards, they wander around the Free Cities until Magister Illyrio invites them into his home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigella Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Ethelarion said: I have a question for some of the forum member with a better memory than me. If I recall correctly there are some strong hints that Viserys and Daenerys weren't together the whole time before Illyrio. I don't really know where this idea in my head comes from, so I was hoping someone could help me with this. From memory the main hints they were seperated for some time during their youth was their difference in education (Dany speaking Valyrian while Viserys doesn't etc) and the 'House with the Red Door'. If anyone could help me, Thanks! It depends on how you define separated. Obviously they didn't spend all their time together. From the first Dany-chapter in aGoT we learn that she knows what her brother is called in the streets while he does not and this does point different lives. Same with the how-fine-it-would-be-to-be-a-sailor-incident. It showcases that even though Viserys is her only family their values and view of the world are completely different. I mean in their situation the natural thing would be for her to internalise his perceptions but she doesn't (him being an abusive a-hole probably plays in on that). Like, from the get go she pretty much defines herself by not being like him. And this does gnaw at the notion of them always being together and being each others only family ever... For me at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanSandman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Ethelarion said: I have a question for some of the forum member with a better memory than me. If I recall correctly there are some strong hints that Viserys and Daenerys weren't together the whole time before Illyrio. I don't really know where this idea in my head comes from, so I was hoping someone could help me with this. From memory the main hints they were seperated for some time during their youth was their difference in education (Dany speaking Valyrian while Viserys doesn't etc) and the 'House with the Red Door'. If anyone could help me, Thanks! http://thelasthearth.com/thread/572/dany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanSandman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Great thread mentioning many varying accounts about Dany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davjos Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 YES @AlaskanSandman That must be the thread I vaguely remembered. Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren_One_Hand Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Dany also says that after Darry dies the servants stole their money, but Viserys still has their mother's crown (which he later sells). If they were together during the time of Darry's death, how did Viserys keep the crown when the rest of their money was stolen? Wouldn't the servants have stolen the crown too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Beren_One_Hand said: Dany also says that after Darry dies the servants stole their money, but Viserys still has their mother's crown (which he later sells). If they were together during the time of Darry's death, how did Viserys keep the crown when the rest of their money was stolen? Wouldn't the servants have stolen the crown too? Their money was stolen, but not their "last few treasures." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanSandman Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 7 hours ago, Ethelarion said: YES @AlaskanSandman That must be the thread I vaguely remembered. Thanks man! Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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