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Why did the Valryians never penetrate further than Dragonstone? As powerful as the Dragonlords were it would seem a no-brainer to have invaded long before Aegon. Thoughts?

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I think that major reason for that is that Valyrians played their own version of game. For instance if house A become too strong another houses allied against it. Also if a house X sent too many of its soldiers and dragons too far and so weakened their forces in their core areas then other houses would try to raid those lands.

So for a dragonlord his or her worst enemy was another dragonlord and for that reason they usually kept most of their available military assets at their own bases unless there was so powerful enemy that could unite them.

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20 hours ago, Loose Bolt said:

I think that major reason for that is that Valyrians played their own version of game. For instance if house A become too strong another houses allied against it. Also if a house X sent too many of its soldiers and dragons too far and so weakened their forces in their core areas then other houses would try to raid those lands.

So for a dragonlord his or her worst enemy was another dragonlord and for that reason they usually kept most of their available military assets at their own bases unless there was so powerful enemy that could unite them.

Sounds like the Roman Empire in its end stages - too busy fighting each other to focus on fresh conquest.

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Valyrians had prophesies about the Doom of Man coming from Westeros and that Casterly Rock would be the end of dragonslords, I think. Its in the wiki.

edit: So they shunned Westeros after.

Edited by Sigella

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On 9/6/2018 at 1:13 PM, Legitimate_Bastard said:

Why did the Valryians never penetrate further than Dragonstone? As powerful as the Dragonlords were it would seem a no-brainer to have invaded long before Aegon. Thoughts?

Didn't they? Hightower, Pyke, Winterfell, Storm's End? 

Interestingly most structures of interest that predate the Andals are all coastal except Winterfell. Hightower, and Pyke for sure practiced slavery for a time, with the Iron born practicing longer than Hightowers who gave it up at some point after assimilation into the Reach.

The Maesters (spelled valyrian way) is also located by Hightower. Daeryssa is of legend too and saved by Serwyn of the Reach, but where was Daeryssa from? Maybe Old Town?

It would appear that they had bases located around Westeros, but never invaded fully except for possibly the Starks in the North. Who interestingly are overrun genetically by Bael, again, a Valyrian name. So if they weren't Valyrian before, they are now. These houses seem to have been assimilated into Westeros and it's culture though. 

The bigger question is why didnt' they fully invade, and if they did, what happened to them? What held them back? Nothing stopped them as the eventually came any ways. Were they just assimilated? 

Edit- The Gardeners are hinted at being a Valyrian house in TWOIAF. 

Edited by AlaskanSandman

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