Gigei Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Could he post an extract at least? Otherwise, unless he lets the book go for free for a while, I don't see how he can raise awareness and generate interest in a shared world anthology written by unknown authors. Yes, but he needs to publish first, then give it away for free if he wants to. The other way around won't work since it will raise copyright issues. Edit: Free review copies are fine, but not published here in a public forum where the Amazon/google/etc. bots can crawl it. Edited October 29, 2021 by Gigei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordos Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 My novel qualifies as a novel but only just. A short story is 10 000 words or less. A novella is up to 40 000 words. My book is just shy of 48 000 words although that includes the Author's Note and the glossary so it's probably just shy of 47 000 words. It's still a short book because the average novel from what I found on Google is 50 000 to 60 000 words. I'm hoping the feedback I get will give me ideas to expand the book. I put a lot of work into this book for months so I want page and word count to show it. It's the most work I've done on a single book. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 @Ordos Just remember that bigger is not always better. @Lord Patrek Only "Sun Tiger", "The Hound of Ashmire", "Anathema (Part I)", and the vignettes ("Rumination", "The World Changed While You Slept", "Perspective", "Love & Hate", and "Vanitas") are actually set in the shared world I'm calling "the Mistland Metaverse" (though in hindsight it may have been better to go with "the Mistland Universe"). That being said, "Scotland's Heir" is set in Felix's rendition of King Arthur's Britain, which we hope to continue collaborating on in the future. The rest, of course, are standalones with no ties to a greater setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkess Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 @Ordos, what genre is your book? Even in contemporary fiction, 47k is really far too short for a novel. Not sure where you saw that 50k-60k is average, because even that is quite short. If you're looking for trad pub, probably 70k is bare minimum. If it's a genre book, even higher. If your age category is YA, that reduces things a bit, but 47 is still too short. Of course, these things are just guidelines and not law, but you'd be really stacking the odds against yourself. Here's a good summary. If you're self publishing, then I don't think it's as much of an issue. Ordos and The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordos Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 12:13 PM, Starkess said: @Ordos, what genre is your book? Even in contemporary fiction, 47k is really far too short for a novel. Not sure where you saw that 50k-60k is average, because even that is quite short. If you're looking for trad pub, probably 70k is bare minimum. If it's a genre book, even higher. If your age category is YA, that reduces things a bit, but 47 is still too short. Of course, these things are just guidelines and not law, but you'd be really stacking the odds against yourself. Here's a good summary. If you're self publishing, then I don't think it's as much of an issue. I am self publishing. I found it on a google search, but the search result have been updated from the looks of it. Still, a novella is 10 000-40 000 words from what I'm looking at. I do hope I can stretch out the narrative just a little bit with the feedback. The genre? It's a survival adventure story within an alternate history setting and with just a pinch of dystopia (particularly in chapter 4). There should be a new thread soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Even 70,000 words is too short for speculative fiction. I know that most agents won't look at anything below 80,000 words. If you're self-publishing, it won't matter, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I've joined Nanowrimo! 5,000 words in and it's looking okay so far. Starkess and The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 As a heads up, the National Library of New Zealand has decided to donate 400,000 books to the Internet Archive for digitalisation. This is causing some understandable concern among authors about copyright infringement: https://societyofauthors.org/News/News/2021/November/Internet-Archive-a-warning-to-authors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Started practicing with Kindle Create. Formatted the whole doc before uploading but for whatever reason it doesn't put any lines between the title, author, and first paragraph so now I'm wondering if I should just hit enter a certain number of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Figured out how to insert that space (chapter first paragraph) but the drop caps look bad and in the case of one story ruin the formatting so I'm not sure how to proceed. I did practically everything else (title page, copyright page, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 6:32 AM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Figured out how to insert that space (chapter first paragraph) but the drop caps look bad and in the case of one story ruin the formatting so I'm not sure how to proceed. I did practically everything else (title page, copyright page, etc.). You could try this: https://reedsy.com/write-a-book You'll have to create an account, but it's free so it's okay to try, IMO. You upload your file then you can edit it online like Google docs. Then you export the file as an ebook which you can then use on KDP or wherever to self-publish. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 MY BOOK IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09N9QL1H7?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_mng_calw_0&storeType=ebooks Print version forthcoming. Derfel Cadarn and Starkess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: MY BOOK IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09N9QL1H7?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_mng_calw_0&storeType=ebooks Print version forthcoming. Nice cover The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 @Derfel Cadarn Thanks! Found a way to use it for the paperback too! (Will work on that over winter break. Have exams for the next two weeks straight. Ugh.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 If any of you end up reading it please let me know your thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 A few questions: 1) Has anyone ever tried Amazon's X-Ray feature? 2) What exactly does "large print" mean when it comes to paperbacks? 3) Does anyone recommend enrolling in KDP Select? 4) Has nominating your eBooks for Kindle Deals and Prime Reading ever been of benefit? 5) Have y'all ever handed out gift copies of eBooks at events or to newsletter subscribers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Moved the release date of my book up one day so now it'll be out on December 24 instead of December 25! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 My book is now available for purchase!https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09N9QL1H7 Lord Patrek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 9:07 AM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: My book is now available for purchase!https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09N9QL1H7 Best of luck! Hope you recoup the money you invested. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Best of luck! Hope you recoup the money you invested. Much appreciated! If you end up buying a copy and enjoying it mind posting a review and/or sharing with friends/family/followers? Also, I'll be posting artwork for the book to my Tumblr blog every two days for the next month or so (as well as my Facebook author account once I make one). Oh, and you can read the first short story for free by clicking "look inside"! Edited December 26, 2021 by The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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