sifth Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) Anyone else notice how GRRM seems to have a habit of basically just copying characters from his main series, slightly tweets their backstories and just inserts them into his history books. The Laughing Storm basically is Robert 2.0 and Larys is basically just Varys and Littlefinger combined into one person. Edited July 5, 2023 by sifth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, sifth said: Anyone else notice how GRRM seems to have a habit of basically just copying characters from his main series, slightly tweets their backstories and just inserts them into his history books. The Laughing Storm basically is Robert 2.0 and Larys is basically just Varys and Littlefinger combined into one person. Hes an old man with a lot on...l Hes gonna phone it in from time to time sifth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 To a certain extent, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, sifth said: Anyone else notice how GRRM seems to have a habit of basically just copying characters from his main series, slightly tweets their backstories and just inserts them into his history books. The Laughing Storm basically is Robert 2.0 and Larys is basically just Varys and Littlefinger combined into one person. Apparently he also recycles characters and even their names from his older series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Personally, I sometimes appreciate it when he does that. Aegon III is basically Stannis if he made it onto the Iron Throne and if he actually had a brother and wife who loved him. His story in FAB is one of my all time favourites. SaffronLady and Springwatch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Maekar= Stannis? James Steller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Luca said: Maekar= Stannis? Robert = Aegon IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, James Steller said: Robert = Aegon IV Renly = Who? I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffronLady Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 5 hours ago, sifth said: Larys is basically just Varys and Littlefinger combined into one person L(ittle)(V)arys. I guess he was destined to not have descendants from the very beginning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Craving Peaches said: Renly = Who? I need to know. Laenor maybe? But that’s me being generous for your sake. I could be snarky and say Renly just wasn’t important or interesting enough to be recycled but I don’t want to pick a fight with you. I’d prefer to keep my chats with you peachy (pun intended) Edited July 5, 2023 by James Steller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Just now, James Steller said: I could be snarky and say Renly just wasn’t important or interesting enough to be recycled Just now, James Steller said: but I don’t want to pick a fight with you. I’d prefer to keep my chats with you peachy (pun intended) Just now, James Steller said: Laenor maybe? Come on, Renly is a superior character. He has numerous witty quotes, more charisma, best suit of armour (or maybe joint best with Victarion's), etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Come on, Renly is a superior character. He has numerous witty quotes, more charisma, best suit of armour (or maybe joint best with Victarion's), etc... On the other hand, Laenor has a dragon, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, sifth said: On the other hand, Laenor has a dragon, lol Which he does nothing with though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Craving Peaches said: Which he does nothing with though. I'd argue someone not using their living nuke, would be a good thing. James Steller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffronLady Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, James Steller said: Renly just wasn’t important or interesting enough to be recycled I'd say the "Summer King" is rather difficult to recycle in the year of winter which was the Dying of the Dragons. Springwatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Just now, sifth said: I'd argue someone not using their living nuke, would be a good thing. True. James Steller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Come on, Renly is a superior character. He has numerous witty quotes, more charisma, best suit of armour (or maybe joint best with Victarion's), etc... I’ll give you that. Renly does have some funny moments. I’d say his funniest moment was him absolutely busting a gut during the whole Joffrey/Arya situation. I just can’t think of who else resembles him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, James Steller said: I just can’t think of who else resembles him. It's because he's just that fabulous James Steller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Star Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, James Steller said: I just can’t think of who else resembles him. (Renly) In a kind of shallow sense, Daeron Targaryen. 7 hours ago, sifth said: Anyone else notice how GRRM seems to have a habit of basically just copying characters from his main series, slightly tweets their backstories and just inserts them into his history books. The Laughing Storm basically is Robert 2.0 and Larys is basically just Varys and Littlefinger combined into one person. In fairness, I think a big part of ASoIaF is reusing archetypes/patterns in slightly different ways. This applies to characters and plotlines. In my personal opinion, this is at times a great strength and at others seems a little weak, but I do think it's intentional. "The dragon is time. It has no beginning and no ending, so all things come round again. Anders Yronwood is Criston Cole reborn. He whispers in my brother's ear that he should rule after my father, that it is not right for men to kneel to women . . . that Arianne especially is unfit to rule, being the willful wanton that she is." She tossed her hair defiantly. "So your two princesses share a common cause, ser . . . and they share as well a knight who claims to love them both, but will not fight for them." Edited July 5, 2023 by Mourning Star Springwatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Absolutely. And where the arc of the corresponding character in the main novels has yet to end, I am assuming we should interpret the arc of the corresponding character in the ancillary texts as a foreshadowing of what will happen in the main novels. Springwatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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