Hippocras Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) GRRM recently mentioned meeting with the creators of the stage play that will cover the tourney at Harrenhal. The original working title was “Harrenhal”. Currently they are using “The Iron Throne”. What do you think this play should be called? My idea: they should call it “The False Spring”. Edited December 9, 2023 by Hippocras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) I really think he ought to name it THE DRAGON IN WINTER, as an allusion to The Lion in Winter, because it'll be the same sort of thing: a royal family at each other's throats for a few days, while plots are hatched, discovered, succeed or fail all around them. Remember it is a False Spring because it is actually still winter. Edited December 8, 2023 by SpaceChampion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: I really think he ought to name it THE DRAGON IN WINTER, as an allusion to The Lion in Winter, because it'll be the same sort of thing: a royal family at each other's throats for a few days, while plots are hatched, discovered, succeed or fail all around them. Remember it is a False Spring because it is actually still winter. But it only became known as the false spring later, when winter returned w/ a vengeance. During the tourney it was all lovely and warm, it would be weird to have winter in the name imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 They experienced false spring before, they knew it was a possibility. And the characters don't have to approve of the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 No, the characters don't have to approve of the title. Still, it's pretty weird to have a play set for all intents and purposes in spring but the title is Winter XYZ. Anyhoo, defo not a hill I'm willing to die on or fight for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Is this stage play supposed to be coming out before or after The Winds of Winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Is this stage play supposed to be coming out before or after The Winds of Winter? He said late 2024 for the play, so.... We don't have particularly optimistic updates on WoW, but it is theoretically possible they will come out around the same time. He met with his UK publishers on this trip too, which could mean anything. Edited December 8, 2023 by Hippocras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Raventree Hall Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Hippocras said: GRRM recently mentioned meeting with the creators of the stage play that will cover the tourney at Harrenhal. The original working title was “Harrenhal”. Currently they are using “The Iron Throne”. What do you think this play should be called? My idea: they should call it “The False Spring”. The Red Wedding and it focuses in on rhe Red Wedding and just ends after the Red Wedding. It’s a tragedy.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lord of Raventree Hall said: The Red Wedding and it focuses in on rhe Red Wedding and just ends after the Red Wedding. It’s a tragedy.lol So....you think the play should be about something completely different than it is? I am confused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebram Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Crouching Lion, Hidden Dragon Brandon and Ned's Excellent Adventure Love is a Many-Splendored King "But seriously," that tournament seems like an odd subject for a drama, since nothing happened there that was very, y'know, dramatic. Yes, things happened that led to rebellion, war, and upheaval; but those came much later. And of course, a play doesn't have locations or special effects. I'll guess that it will focus in on one or two characters, and imagine things that are not on any of the George's pages: conflicts and romances, promises and threats. Do we know any more about the story line? I wonder if Ashara Dayne will play a role? And as for the title, I'll just opine that it needs to contain at least one word that links it to fantasy or medieval history: king, throne, dragon, etc. "The False Spring" has several good qualities, but it's too vague; only those of us who have read the books would get the reference. Edited December 9, 2023 by Aebram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 People! Apparently I really need to claridy: There is a real play. Already mostly written. Might open in a year. The play is about the tourney at Harrenhal leading up to Robert's rebellion. Your names will not make sense if they are for a different story! SpaceChampion and Northern Sword 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sword Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 3:57 AM, Lord of Raventree Hall said: The Red Wedding and it focuses in on the Red Wedding and just ends after the Red Wedding. It’s a tragedy. lol Would be tough to make that a comedy Lord of Raventree Hall and Hippocras 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sword Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Dragons Fall and the Winters Rose A Laughing Tree Melodrama Tournament of Champions: Final Jeopardy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Northern Sword said: Would be tough to make that a comedy A play about someone trying to write it as a comedy could be a comedy though. Northern Sword 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 3:31 PM, Hippocras said: GRRM recently mentioned meeting with the creators of the stage play that will cover the tourney at Harrenhal. The original working title was “Harrenhal”. Currently they are using “The Iron Throne”. What do you think this play should be called? My idea: they should call it “The False Spring”. The False Spring is most poetic. But the Iron Throne will bring in the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 2:37 PM, Hippocras said: A play about someone trying to write it as a comedy could be a comedy though. A Play About Nothing By Larry R R David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthurs Dawn Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) On 12/11/2023 at 1:37 PM, Hippocras said: A play about someone trying to write it as a comedy could be a comedy though. Give it to The Goes Wrong Show, they would make it funny as hell. Chris Bean, playing Rhaegar, would be wearing an ill-designed helmet that obscures his vision, and instead of laying the crown of roses on Lyanna's (Sandra's) lap, he'd instead mistakenly give it to Robert Baratheon (regular Robert). Edit: Annie playing Robert Baratheon would be even funnier. Edited December 13, 2023 by Ser Arthurs Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Daendrew said: The False Spring is most poetic. But the Iron Throne will bring in the fans. I am just not sure it is the right title at all for an event set at Harrenhal. The throne is not even there. I think that while a theatre show may bring in a certain proportion of the general GOT fan base, it will be the more intellectually inclined portion of that base, for whom a certain amount of poetry and inspiration is what they want. Noone expects really to get the same thing out of a theatre experience as a TV experience. and theatre often aims a tad more cerebral. SpaceChampion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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