Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, DMC said: Sure. I mean, I think - if anyone wants to bring up others I'm open. I just don't think they affected the game at the level that Darnold, Watt, and Lewis did. Darnold stands out to me among the three. He's on the very short list of greatest defensive players ever. Watt probably is for most fans as well, but I think he got to feast on some pretty bad talent in that putrid division. Lewis had Idk maybe a five year window where he was great, but after that Suggs was clearly the better player. And I think Reed was more impactful than either of them. As the game changed to more of a passing offensive style having the player that totally ate up the middle of the field mattered more than a linebacker. A lot of teams treat it like RBs at this point unless you have someone great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Yeah, I dunno. All I'd say is Darnold is WAYYY up there, and that's all that matters right now, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 For sure, he's probably top 10 all-time. But let's not forget Bob Sanders won Manning his first ring and Miller won him his second. And the other Manning won two because of that scary D-Line. QBs aren't everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 20 minutes ago, DMC said: Also, if people want to say that's positional bias -- it is. Dems the breaks. You don't hear anyone talking about the top Offensive Lineman when they're talking about top offensive players either. Damn. And they say I'm cold. Meanwhile, you're underselling Ray Lewis. 5 years as a great? Try 10. He was the premier player of his generation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: Meanwhile, you're underselling Ray Lewis. 5 years as a great? Try 10. He was the premier player of his generation! Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 That part was aimed at Ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: That part was aimed at Ty. Ah. I think you both could do better. Jace, Extat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 25 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: Meanwhile, you're underselling Ray Lewis. 5 years as a great? Try 10. He was the premier player of his generation! 7 at best and one year he was hurt in that span. He never got many sacks, didn't force or recover that many fumbles and outside of one year didn't get many picks per season. He just got a lot of tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 19 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: 7 at best and one year he was hurt in that span. He never got many sacks, didn't force or recover that many fumbles and outside of one year didn't get many picks per season. He just got a lot of tackles. But he was a leader of men! A heartstone from which his teammates drew strength and found purpose. His effect on the field made him great, his effect on the soul makes him legendary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Jace, Extat said: But he was a leader of men! A heartstone from which his teammates drew strength and found purpose. His effect on the field made him great, his effect on the soul makes him legendary... Domonique Foxworth said half the locker room rolled their eyes at him when he did is preacher shtick. Jace, Extat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Don’t sleep on Lewis. He was a straight killer out there… Arakasi and Jace, Extat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, DMC said: Yeah, I dunno. All I'd say is Darnold is WAYYY up there, and that's all that matters right now, no? Aaron Donald, right? Not Sam Darnold? DMC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said: Aaron Donald, right? Not Sam Darnold? Hey, Freudian’s are gonna slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, DMC said: Hey, Freudian’s are gonna slip. "One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does not belong..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Sam Darnold had a defensive impact that Watt, Lewis, or even Lawrence Taylor could not match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Maithanet said: Sam Darnold had a defensive impact that Watt, Lewis, or even Lawrence Taylor could not match. Almost single handedly shut down the Jets offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 57 minutes ago, Rhom said: Almost single handedly shut down the Jets offense. Life is hard when you look like a Lego figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 Talk about selling low for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: Talk about selling low for the Bears. Yikes, indeed. I like how Lance yielded a better pick than Fields. Also like how Brock Purdy's only competition in both the 2021 and 2022 drafts when it comes to QBs is Trevor Lawrence. Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 That's also inevitably gonna be quite the controversy in Pittsburgh no matter who gets the job. And those fucks love their football. Interesting decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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