Akhôrahil Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Let me reformulate your question and then answer it (y'know, like a politican :smoking: ):"Who is responsible for the most harm in Westeros?"1. Cersei2. Tywin3. Littlefinger"Who would I like to get captured by the least?"1. Ramsay Snow2. Qyburn (comes second to Ramsey only because at least you will die in a few weeks...)3. Vargo Hoat4. Gregor Clegane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_In_The_North Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ramsay. RAMSAY. It takes special skill to top Joffrey and Old Man Frey as my least-favorite character. If you've read ADWD already you'd understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashcandy Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Ok agreed with everyone on the post that Gregor is really evil, but even with all his horrible misdeeds I don't think he qualifies as the worst person in Westeros simply because a) I think he really is crazy - with evidence going all the way back to when he burned half his brother's face off, and we hear so much of his unimaginable perversions and sins that it almost became a bit commonplace - ok so we know he is a rapist, inhumane beast, but in my opinion the worst person in Westeros title deserves to go to someone with more power, more cunning, more resources, and a complete lack of sympathy or interest in the fate of others; indeed, blind to anything that does not promote their own selfish, depraved interests.In terms of which character I hate the most in Westeros, however, that is a different matter. That special honor goes to Littlefinger - I can find nothing to admire nor can I find any redeeming qualities. His treatment of Sansa is actually child abuse, not to mention the case of Sweet Robin, and I have a feeling he hasnt even begun to show just how sinister he really is.For the record, Craster is really a sick person too! Incest and filicide... Yup he makes the list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAAM Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 im seeing all this hate for LF, but varys is just as much of a scheming bastard as LFplus, LF could be planning for a peasant rebellion against the lords, not likely, but still a possibility since he seems to resent the nobility, technically hes also a lord, but as low as one can go, also, as for the ned betrayal(varys betrayed him to) it kinda went like thisLF"dont trust anyone, especially me"laterLF"i think you should support joffrey"ned"no, but based on the facts that youve told me not to trust you, you just said you wanted me to support joffrey, and this will cause you to lose your position, ive decide that youre the perfect person to trust completely to help overthrow joffrey and lose your position"LF*facepalm*"all right, whatever"as for the worst person in westeros, that would have to be ramsay, the guys just sick, he took pleasure in causing pain, thats just terribleas for who i hate most, cersie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunbarbw Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I dont think I can actually name anyone as the worst person in Westeros. Cersei, Gregor Clegane, Qyburn and others do horrible things and enjoy them. Guys like Roose Bolton, Walder Frey, Tywin Lannister, and Littlefinger do horrible things to further their own ends. They're all equally shitty to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Ramsay right now. There was stuff in ADWD that genuinely creeped me out. Joffrey is a close second though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuliginEyes Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Worst people just in their own right, and not necessarily as worst for the realm...Ramsay BoltonThe MountainQyburnCerseiLittlefingerJoffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Ramsay Bolton is bar none the worst, I want to see him die more than anyone else.The Freys are second worst to me and as a whole should be annihilated. Honorable Mention: The new High Septon, idk something rubs me the wrong way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Luwin Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Walder Frey or Cersei Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halftoe Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 It's Cersei, hands down. She is the so petty, self serving, arrogant, cruel and vicious.I mean, yes the Mountian and Qybern and others are bad men, but they are only instruments, moved around like pawns in the game. Littlefinger said there are pawns and players in the game, and of all the players, Cersei is the worst.There are other bad people all over westeros, but Cersei's villany touches the entire realm. It's good to see that she's her own worst enemy. Maybe she'll end up one of Qyberns experiments herself, fingers crossed.I have not read ADwD yet, so this opinion might change..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Steps Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Ser Gregor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashRouge Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Well it's all subjective really, but for me, the "worst" characters are Walder Frey, Gregor Clegane and Ransey Bolton. Frey for the Red Wedding and sitting there laughing while the North men were slaughtered; Clegane for, well, too many things to list; and Ransey Bolton for his love of horrible torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Tywin Lannister and Gregor Clegane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Gregor, Ramsay. A very close tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bong of Ice and Fire Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Tywin to me is the worst. He's a genocidal tyrant. Plus he's a jealous bitch, not to mention a massive hypocrite. Fuck him. As for Ramsay, from whose perspective is he the worst? From the Stark loyalists', sure. But consider this. House Bolton probably has its own deeply believed mythology, one in which the Starks have oppressed the Boltons for centuries, and the Boltons should have been the rightful rulers of the North, and blah blah blah. They probably have a list of grievances against the Starks longer than the Mad King's fingernails (combined).So when Ramsay, using undeniably clever tactics, took Winterfell from that idiot Greyjoy, then later burned that great symbol of Stark oppression down, he would be seen in Bolton lands as a great liberator, a righter of historic wrongs, a freaking hero. Sure, they'd say, he was sometimes excessively cruel, but he was surrounded by enemies and traitors, and hey, nobody's perfect; his great deeds trump his minor flaws!All those historical figures with "the Great" after their name, how did they become great? Why, by killing, pillaging, raping, and conquering. Like Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisDantas Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 3. Ramsay Bolton. He is quite the sick puppy.2. Roose Bolton. Having been both aware of better role models than those he gave his son, and uncaring enough to not even try to present them, Roose is less unhinged than Ramsay but actually a far worse person, because does know better.1. Is left as an exercise for the reader. But only because Tywin is dead and Littlefinger is fairly bidding his time at the moment.Qyburn is a strong runner-up, though. But for all his abominations he offers little danger without an influential enabler of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 The Mountain is just a wild dog, Ramsay Bolton is the true monster of ASOIAF.Honorable Mentions: Joffrey, Qyburn, Maegor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkbringer Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 1. Ramsay Bolton - Hunting/brutaliy murdering women for sport, really enjoys torturing and dehumanizing others.2. Joffrey Lannister - Complete sociopath, considered himself a demi-god3. Gregor Clegane - Powerfully strong, cruel and had severe anger management problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think Craster. He routinely rapes his own daughters and kills infants all the time. That's about as evil as it gets. His murder tally might be lower than someone in a position of higher power but he doesn't control that and no one else seems as evil.It's sad the Night's Watch let him continue without arrest. Even if they need a place to rest; they could seize his house and leave it manned all the time with their own people. Craster is so evil I wish that long before his death someone had confiscated his gentleman vegetables and locked him in an ice cell under the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Nedd Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Gregor hands down. An absolutely awful and evil person without a shred of a conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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