jurble Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The new Suvudu cage-matches got me thinking, and therefore angry on the following subject:Voldemort.He should have won damn it. I mean god damn, only Dumbledore came close to him in magical skill. Neither of them needed to shout stupid, stupid Latin-ish phrases to use spells, they just did it like bosses. I mean shit, on a scale of 1-100, with 1 being a Muggle and 100 being Dumbledore and Voldemort skill-level wizards, Harry is like a 20. So, incredibly, enraging. I don't care about your bullshit power of love, if you need to speak to magic, you suck. Dumbledore and Voldemort had an awesome fight without saying a word, presumably they're just casting nonverbal spells at like 10 spells per second in their heads since you know THEY AREN'T SPEAKING THEM. ARHHGRHGHRHGRHGHRHGRHGHRGHHARHARHAHRGHHGAHRGHARHGRHAGHARHGRHGRHR.I will never get over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 prophecies and dreams. cannot stand either of them. total sh!te if you ask me. But Harry was protected by love, and we all know that love is more powerful than fire and sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete this account pls Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Actually, what bothered me about Harry Potter was that the wizards contempt for 'Muggles' should have worked the other way around. Because modern technology is pretty much better than any of their stupid little spells.I mean seriously. Think about how much that avara kevara thing sucks as a weapon. First you have to really really want to kill someone when you cast it. Secondly, you still have to aim the damn thing. So, if you actually manage to cast the spell, and it does actually manage to hit the target, it kills them.Congratulations wizards! You have the wepapons equivalent of a crossbow. Now say hello to my little friend, the sub machine gun. See, I dont have to feel shit when I squeeze the trigger. I just squeeze it. And I can kill about a dozen of you fuckers before you can even point your wands at me. I've never used a gun before, and have no training, yet I'm more dangerous than the deadliest, most skilled battle wizard you got. WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW, HUH? WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 'cuz most wizards and witches are pretty bad. Voldemort could probably unleash a magical A-bomb if he wanted to. But he doesn't, since his only real goal is to rule the wizarding world, not to kill all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grack21 Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Actually, what bothered me about Harry Potter was that the wizards contempt for 'Muggles' should have worked the other way around. Because modern technology is pretty much better than any of their stupid little spells.I mean seriously. Think about how much that avara kevara thing sucks as a weapon. First you have to really really want to kill someone when you cast it. Secondly, you still have to aim the damn thing. So, if you actually manage to cast the spell, and it does actually manage to hit the target, it kills them.Congratulations wizards! You have the wepapons equivalent of a crossbow. Now say hello to my little friend, the sub machine gun. See, I dont have to feel shit when I squeeze the trigger. I just squeeze it. And I can kill about a dozen of you fuckers before you can even point your wands at me. I've never used a gun before, and have no training, yet I'm more dangerous than the deadliest, most skilled battle wizard you got. WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW, HUH? WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW?All I have to say to that is this: http://www.funny-games.biz/cartoon/potterpuppetpals2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raskolnikov Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I hate Mary Sue characters. My blood boils when I read about Characters Who Can Do No Wrong. I like Jon Snow though. :fencing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahimsa Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 What bothers me is when people act like the Harry Potter books aren't crappy and are worth discussing. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Raskolnikov,I hate Mary Sue characters. My blood boils when I read about Characters Who Can Do No Wrong. I like Jon Snow though. :fencing:You mean like by beating on his sworn brothers with superior training and attempting to desert from the Night's Watch or getting drunk because he's jealous of his brothers and sisters or running off to join the Watch in the first place? All of those actions, depending upon the readers POV could be considered doing something wrong.LAE,I enjoyed the Harry Potter series along with quite a few other people. That doesn't mean I think it was free of plot holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Nan Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Overt mention or discussion of the author's political, philosophical, or psychological opinions in a way that can't be dismissed as the biases of a particular character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahimsa Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I enjoyed the Harry Potter series along with quite a few other people. That doesn't mean I think it was free of plot holes.Of course, enjoy what you want to enjoy. But I read the first couple HP books and it was obvious they weren't up to even average standards concerning plot holes and consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Bass Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Actually, what bothered me about Harry Potter was that the wizards contempt for 'Muggles' should have worked the other way around. Because modern technology is pretty much better than any of their stupid little spells.In terms of raw killing power, but overall? I question that. There is a lot that the magic in Harry Potter can do (and do easily and quickly) that modern technology can't (like re-growing entire bones, for one).I mean seriously. Think about how much that avara kevara thing sucks as a weapon. First you have to really really want to kill someone when you cast it. Secondly, you still have to aim the damn thing. So, if you actually manage to cast the spell, and it does actually manage to hit the target, it kills them. Avada Kedavra isn't the only spell that can kill. Peter Pettigrew used a spell in a flashback from Book Three that blew up a city block, killing 19 people (the government claimed it was a "major gas explosion").Congratulations wizards! You have the wepapons equivalent of a crossbow. Now say hello to my little friend, the sub machine gun. See, I dont have to feel shit when I squeeze the trigger. I just squeeze it. And I can kill about a dozen of you fuckers before you can even point your wands at me. I've never used a gun before, and have no training, yet I'm more dangerous than the deadliest, most skilled battle wizard you got. WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW, HUH? WHO'S A MUGGLE NOW?Assuming you can get a wizard in your sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Wizards fight each other within plain sight throughout the whole book. A single one of them would have simply had to be carrying an automatic weapon, and game over. An AK-47 is faster than any syllables in Latin, I assure you. There wouldn't be time for a wizard to react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renasko Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Characters getting randomly raped. Like, take Peter V. Brett's debut novel, for example. Apparently it gets worse in the second, I wouldn't (want to) know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickg Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Most people couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with an AK though. Or most any other gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 If they can spend 7 years in school learning arcane knowledge, training for basic aiming of automatic weapons sounds reasonable. I mean, really, Voldemort could've just had a sniper assassinate Harry at any point he was in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Nan Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The appearance of a sniper in the plot would just lead to the convenient emergence of a new countering spell out of thin ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Silenus Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Erm... anyone consider Wizards could conjure up a simple ward against a ball of flying lead, Chiefs? Or Allomantic push and pull abilities?Telekenesis, Kyle? Levitation, homes? How about the power... to move you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 'cuz most wizards and witches are pretty bad. Voldemort could probably unleash a magical A-bomb if he wanted to. But he doesn't, since his only real goal is to rule the wizarding world, not to kill all of them.Good for him, he'd still have to be able to react in time to a bullet and wizards in this series don't exactly tend to be physically fit. Single trained soldier > 90% of wizards. Squad of soldiers > all wizards period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahimsa Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I agree in principle, Thor. But you can't make that level of analysis in this series. It's not up to that level of examination. It's like watching the Smurfs and saying "Hey, why doesn't Gargamel just eat all those crazy little blue guys instead of relying on another crazy scheme?" Or asking why Wile E Coyote doesn't just order some food from Acme instead of another crazy invention to catch the roadrunner. Like the Roadrunner or Smurts, the Potter books just aren't well-written enough or aimed at an old enough audience for those things to matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I agree in principle, Thor. But you can't make that level of analysis in this series. It's not up to that level of examination. It's like watching the Smurfs and saying "Hey, why doesn't Gargamel just eat all those crazy little blue guys instead of relying on another crazy scheme?" Or asking why Wile E Coyote doesn't just order some food from Acme instead of another crazy invention to catch the roadrunner. Like the Roadrunner or Smurts, the Potter books just aren't well-written enough or aimed at an old enough audience for those things to matter.I never watched the Smurfs but I did ask those questions about Roadrunner. Then I saw an episode when I was older where Bugs replace the roadrunner. After bugs got done screwing with Wile I shows Wile order take-out. I was like WTF? Analyzing things like this is just in my nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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