King Bolton 1990 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 While Daenerys and Drogon are off playing with the Dothraki we have Barristan,Victarion and Tyrion awfully close to each other. Only GRRM can know exactly what will happen here till TWOW is released but it seems to me that it is time to say goodbye to one or more of his POVs but the question is which one. I know he loves Tyrion but it doesn't seem that the imp has much to contribute at this point when he's traveling with two people that have already betrayed Daenerys and is planning on rescuing Daario a person that she loves but at the same time can only hurt her political career. Victarion seems the most likely to die here which is probably why he won't. The story shows that he could be a pawn of Morrqorro or that maybe he'll end up riding a dragon. Then there is Barristan the Bold one of the most honorable,wise,noble.brave and gallant characters in the entire series of ASOIAF which sucks because I like him and I know what happens to most honorable, wise,noble ,brave and gallant characters in these novels. So please post out of Tyrion ,Victarion or Barristan which would you rather see go and how you think they should bite the big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Stark Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Victarion, because once Euron comes back (i think he's in the fleet somewhere) there will be no need of Victarion, he will be royally screwed, by the king of the iron islands, they'll fight, euron will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babeldygob Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 If one of them dies in or around Meereen, it will be Barristan. He can't go on forever. I like him, but besides being the battle commander of the coming battle, I think he doesn't have any role to play anymore. Victarion will meet his brother before he dies and he will meet or at least see Dany before he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishtemper Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 If one of them dies in or around Meereen, it will be Barristan. He can't go on forever. I like him, but besides being the battle commander of the coming battle, I think he doesn't have any role to play anymore. Victarion will meet his brother before he dies and he will meet or at least see Dany before he dies.Well it's debatable is Barristan has anything left to do....especially if you're one of the people that believes Septa Lemore = AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I really want (selfishly, I guess?) Barristan to live long enough to interact with Jaime one more time - I think it would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylla Manderly Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I too think Selmy should make it back to Westeros. As others mentioned him meeting Lemore, if she is actually AD would be interesting. A meeting we Jaime too.And I would really like to see him meet the Blackfish. They fought together in the war of the Ninepenny Kings and a reunion between these two veterans could be really interesting.So I don't think his story is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Scorpion Knight Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 While Daenerys and Drogon are off playing with the Dothraki we have Barristan,Victarion and Tyrion awfully close to each other. Only GRRM can know exactly what will happen here till TWOW is released but it seems to me that it is time to say goodbye to one or more of his POVs but the question is which one. I know he loves Tyrion but it doesn't seem that the imp has much to contribute at this point when he's traveling with two people that have already betrayed Daenerys and is planning on rescuing Daario a person that she loves but at the same time can only hurt her political career. Victarion seems the most likely to die here which is probably why he won't. The story shows that he could be a pawn of Morrqorro or that maybe he'll end up riding a dragon. Then there is Barristan the Bold one of the most honorable,wise,noble.brave and gallant characters in the entire series of ASOIAF which sucks because I like him and I know what happens to most honorable, wise,noble ,brave and gallant characters in these novels. So please post out of Tyrion ,Victarion or Barristan which would you rather see go and how you think they should bite the big one.I think these three working together will be equally hilarious and awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKE Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Martin pretty much openly admitted that Barristan as a POV was his way out of the Mereen knot. (I think it was that google question submission interview). . .He said something that he intends the battle to be observed from multiple angles, obviously he needed someone inside Mereen to get that perspective. I think we'll get no Vic POVs until after the battle, with an exceptional revelation (he rescued/kidnapped Dany, or tamed a dragon through Moqorro, something unexpected). What I don't want is another Tyrion melee POV. For such a small guy he's already had too much luck surviving melees (Green Fork, Blackwater wreckage bridge). It's going to break some realism for him to make out on another imo. Hopefully he's smart enough to sit this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Stark Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Ser Barristan is the kind of person that dies in this series, i hope he doesnt though, id like to see him go home and die for his queen in westeros, though no matter what, when he dies it will be in a moment of valour, and that will be enough for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisDantas Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Barristan is in dire straits after his bad choices in Meereen.Victarion, however, is in the thrall of both Moqorro and Euron, so his future does not look too bright. Well, not in a healthy way anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urien the Ragged Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Victarion seems to think it will be easy to turn on and vanquish his brother, but i'm sure Euron is one or two steps ahead of him. He will fall at the moment of his greatest conquest.it also interests me that all of these brutish warriors seem to be underestimating Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent branch Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I think a being a POV character can end without that character dying. But if one of these has to die, then it will probably be Barristan at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moefy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't think Tyrion will be killed - he seems to survive epic battles somehow. Plus he is too scheming and awesome :( Killing Barristan would be strange because his story has just become about raising new knights for Daenerys, but perhaps this is a legacy which they will follow. He is probably the best council she has when she (finally) returns to Westeros. Although he seems to keep telling himself that he is too old for this, which may perhaps be a hint that he will go out fighting, like he wishes. I reckon Victarion will be too cocky for his own good and get eaten by Drogon, although the red priest did say he visioned greatness in him... perhaps he steals the dragon horn off Euron and has himself a bbq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 We're not told that Moqorro sees greatness for Victarion . He tells Vic that he has seen the greatness that will be his. This might mean not very much greatness at all..But Moqorro knows it wouldn't be healthy to say that outright .. ;)..And Vic is expecting to achieve greatness , so of course he's going to interpret it in the most favourable way.I'm sure the writing is on the wall for V ..I just don't know where Euron actually is..or what he actually is..For that matter , is Moqorro the same Moqorro Tyrion met ?..or.. Is the captain who brought Moqorro to Vic the same person he was the last time Vic saw him ? ( My head is spinning ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 We all expect Barristan to die this battle, therefore he'll survive. Keep in mind Barristan got to Daenerys' BEFORE Martin had problems with the Mereense-knot. Perhaps he had more in mind for Barristan after the supposed five-year-gap. We'll find out in a few years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebmai Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Dany NEEDS a small council, Tryion still could be useful very useful to her. It's GRRM so anything is on the table, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebmai Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 No pun intended on Tyrion being fit for service on a small council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienarea Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Barristan is the fantasy mentor figure (Merlin, Obi-Wan, ...) that usually dies at 2/3rds of the story.For shock value Tyrion should die in the TWoW prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Victarion.....there are too many Greyjoys and I honestly don't understand his purpose. Besides, I really am getting annoyed with his cockiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedl Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I want Victarion to die.I think that Barristan will die (nobly).I'm afraid that Tyrion will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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