Francis Buck Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm pretty sure the ricin is no longer in cigarette form, it's just in the vial now.Right, but he could always just stick it into another cigarette.EDIT: Sorry, double-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Stone Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I think it's funny that Walter White, IMO easily the least likable anti-hero in cable drama (more so than Tony Soprano, who otherwise would hold the crown), gets that kind of love. Not just because he's a monster, although Vince Gilligan has been consistently calling him a monster for a long time. But also because the show frequently makes fun of him, his pathetic attempts at rationalization, his boundless insecurity/megalomania, his pettiness, his self-delusion... I don't see how people can love Walter and hate Skylar without being blinded by serious gender issues, I really don't. It's like finding out that people are rooting for George Costanza, or that they think that GOB Bluth is a bad-ass.And speaking of GOB Bluth, I've just become aware of the Tumblr page Breaking Development. I think this is my favorite mash-up.I sort of feel like the real villain in BB is the "War on Drugs", which is why I want to see Walt succeed. Fuck you DEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya, Vengeance Demon Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I sort of feel like the real villain in BB is the "War on Drugs", which is why I want to see Walt succeed. Fuck you DEA.Really? I'm not a defender of the War on Drugs, particularly, but I feel like Breaking Bad is an incredibly apolitical show, so bringing that to the show feels a little artificial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Right, but he could always just stick it into another cigarette.Well, yeah. I was nitpicking Brady. The cigarette was always just the transport method for the vial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Stone Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Really? I'm not a defender of the War on Drugs, particularly, but I feel like Breaking Bad is an incredibly apolitical show, so bringing that to the show feels a little artificial.I don't think the show brings it up, but I bring that mindset when I watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umel of Ys Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 It's like finding out that people are rooting for George CostanzaWow, wow, wow, hold on a second. What kind of insensitive monster isn't rooting for George Costanza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independent George Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I personally believe in legalizing drugs. That doesn't in any way mean that I support, justify, admire, or glorify drug dealers.Walt started S1 as at Type-V anti-hero. By season 3, he was a Type-III anti-villain. He spent most of season 4 as a Type-II, but by the end made the full transition to flat-out villain.Gus appeared to be a Type-V anti-villain at the start before being revealed as somewhere between a complete monster, magnificent bastard, and punch-clock villain. Mike was a Type-II anti-villain all the way through; Jesse is a Type-V. Hank went from a Type-III anti-hero to straight hero.ETA: Actually, now that I think about it, I think Walt is the Starscream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I rewatched the original Total Recall last night.I did not remember that Dean Norris got his ass to Mars.http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0eh3fZ3We1r3eyr4o1_400.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Maybe some of the people rooting for Walt still see too much loveable Hal from Malcolm in the Middle in him. I mean that guy got in over his head so many times, this time he just got himself really really really over his head.And I don't hate skylar, I feel for her situation, I just think the most interesting parts of the show happen inspite of her not because of her, she always seems to be the last piece that has to be dragged into whatever place she needs to be in for things to keep moving at the awesome pace this show sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Stone Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Maybe some of the people rooting for Walt still see too much loveable Hal from Malcolm in the Middle in him. I mean that guy got in over his head so many times, this time he just got himself really really really over his head.I've been wondering what happened to those boys. Hal didn't seem the type lead a double life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I feel like the people still rooting for Walt have missed the entire point of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Queen Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I feel like a lot of people will root for the main character no matter what, because you're supposed to root for the main character always, and he or she must be likable.I didn't make the connection between Skyler's new smoking habit and the ricin before I read this thread, but now I fear for Skyler's life. It's going to be her, or one of the kids. That ricin vial will not go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyphillip Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I just watched the first four episodes of this season today. I am doing this because I believe that this story is better told by watching it in continuity instead of waiting for weekly episodes. I was going to wait until this years episodes were complete, but my DVR filled up, and I had to free some space.I can't believe how much my opinions of these characters have changed over this series. As has been pointed out, this is a testament to the outstanding writing this show enjoys. At this point, I absolutely loathe Walt, and I am completely sympathetic to Skylar's position.I have thought for a long time that Walt's eventual downfall will come from Walt Jr. I can very easily see a scenario where he is forced to take out his Dad to protect his Mom. I also think that the Scarface reference in the episode is probably foreshadowing that almost everyone we know in this show is going to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of Valyria Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I also think that the Scarface reference in the episode is probably foreshadowing that almost everyone we know in this show is going to be killed.I think VG said that Cranston added that line in on his own, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete this account pls Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure the ricin is no longer in cigarette form, it's just in the vial now.Your momma is no longer in cigarette form!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabronius Maximus Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Maybe some of the people rooting for Walt still see too much loveable Hal from Malcolm in the Middle in him. I mean that guy got in over his head so many times, this time he just got himself really really really over his head.Have you watched the blooper reel for each season of BB? Cranston is absolutely hilarious, and there's an obvious Hal moment in the season 2 reel. I am once again having a tough time taking him seriously, even after this week's dark episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I love the fact that I hate Walt and feel like he is an irredeemable monster because he poisoned Brock, yet I love Jaime despite the fact that he threw Bran out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Buck Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yeah, plus at least with Jaime you can still say that he did it of out love/family. Walt has almost fully succumbed to pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete this account pls Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I love the fact that I hate Walt and feel like he is an irredeemable monster because he poisoned Brock, yet I love Jaime despite the fact that he threw Bran out the window.When Cat accussed Jaime of trying to kill Bran he replied with; "I seldom throw children from windows to improve their health" whereas Walt would stutter and stammer and make up some lame excuse as to why he wasn't to blame and it was really someone else's fault.Plus. Jaime is fucking hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give Cersei some LOVE Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Half of Breaking Bad should be breakfast scenes. I LOVE BACONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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