Moon-Pale Maiden Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I wonder if they'll give coldhands the blue eyes of the wights to more easily illustrate to viewers what Coldhands truly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I don't know. For it to be Coldhands, they have to get beyond the wall in 2 episodes (episode 5 just aired). I don't see them speeding things up that much. That doesn't leave much room for the few things they do in the journey.The older gentleman could be a new scene, not in the books. It could also be the Flint clan guy they meet on their journey. I could even be Bloodraven, and could be Bran "meeting him" through dream.I just don't see how they will have enough Bran scenes in the next couple episodes to get them to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Not too much of a reveal. He is Ned's second son (officially at least)Oh I know, nothing revealing, but just a nod to people who know his true parentage or perhaps a hint for non-readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 o0ops. wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father of Dragons Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 I don't know. For it to be Coldhands, they have to get beyond the wall in 2 episodes (episode 5 just aired). I don't see them speeding things up that much. That doesn't leave much room for the few things they do in the journey.Sam and Gilly are beyond the Wall ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waaimasjien Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Sam and Gilly are beyond the Wall ...He used his nose to read the synopsis and thought Bran was meeting the older gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Oh shit. Nvm. I read that as "Bran meets an older gentleman". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Summer Islander Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Yeah I'm pretty sure it's Coldhands. The only other thing I can think of is the wight of Jeor Mormont or Craster.Dany will meet Daario this episode.its going to be interesting to see coldhands, and if it has any on screen resemblence to benjen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Sam's meeting with an "older gentleman" could be one of several things - Coldhands, as per the book. - his use of the dragonglass spearhead/dagger on an Other, if this doesn't happen in ep 7. - through some re-engineering of the plotlines from the book, the older gentleman is the same old man that the wildlings kill at Queenscrown. This obviously needs a massive re-arrangement in the timelines and whereabouts of Sam, Jon and Bran's group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDMNDBAMMD Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Anyone see the trailer with Gilly and Sam running through the haunted forest? There's ravens everywhere! I'll bet a few gold dragons it's Coldhands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Anyone see the trailer with Gilly and Sam running through the haunted forest? There's ravens everywhere! I'll bet a few gold dragons it's ColdhandsCould also be the oither scene from the book that involves those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar0s Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Yeah and the guy who plays Coldhands aint the guy who played Benjen, so there's one of my favorite theories blown out of the water.Why do people think Coldhands is Benjen? It was stated Coldhands "died a long time ago". Benjen hasn't been dead long at all if he is even dead. I never believed Coldhands to be Benjen in the slightest but I am curious to what everyone thinks about this topic? If you think Coldhands is Benjen, tell me why! If you think Benjen is alive, what the hell has he been doing and when will he re-appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairlock the Magnificent! Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Spot on Exar0s. Unless GRR is doing his 'gardening' writing method to the max (AKA writing as you go), Benjen CAN NOT be coldhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybuilderton Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Hound is a second son?! He will probably be traveling with Arya this episode in order to get to the wedding in time. Perhaps kidnapped in episode 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wood_dat_aye_could Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why do people think Coldhands is Benjen? It was stated Coldhands "died a long time ago". Benjen hasn't been dead long at all if he is even dead. I never believed Coldhands to be Benjen in the slightest but I am curious to what everyone thinks about this topic? If you think Coldhands is Benjen, tell me why! If you think Benjen is alive, what the hell has he been doing and when will he re-appear.This may not be the right thread for this topic, but for ExarOs sake..The only convincing argument that Coldhands is not Ben Stark is the quote from the Child of the Forrest and that "died along time ago" bit.Otherwise, why not Benjen Stark? Coldhands was definitely once a member of the Nights Watch, he had to be in order open the underground passage at the Night Fort. The only other likely candidate would be The Night King, who was also Nights Watch. Either way, my point is its not impossible that its Benjen, and it makes the most sense. Could be that Coldhands was someone who actually warged into a wight, and that wight could have been anyone, someone long dead.. heck even the Night King. We know the Starks can warg, maybe Coldhands is the Night King with Ben Starks warged mind/soul.... Could be a lot things.. and it could be Benjen...However, if Coldhands is not Benjen in all actuality, then Benjen may be shacking up in those secret tunnels and will make a visit to Bran and the Reeds in the next book.. just a guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wethers Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Hound is a second son?! He will probably be traveling with Arya this episode in order to get to the wedding in time. Perhaps kidnapped in episode 7Yep. Some other second sons other than Mero/Tyrion/Hound/Bran, just for fun:Oberyn Martell (arrives in KL before PW)Euron Greyjoy (bye-bye Balon?)Brynden Tully / BlackfishRamsay Snow/Bolton, second son in books, though perhaps not in showTommen Baratheon/Lannister (doubt any significance in episode)Wendel Manderly (rides with Robb to RW, older bro Wylis captured by Lannisters at Green Fork, but we may not officially see any Manderlys in season 3)Garlan Tyrell (obviously not in show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelofIceandFire Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Hound is a second son?! He will probably be traveling with Arya this episode in order to get to the wedding in time. Perhaps kidnapped in episode 7Yeah, i think Arya and the Hound will appear in this episode. She obviously gets captued by him in episode 7 (from the preview) and i think that will be the last thing we see from them in that episode, so they will need to at least feature a scene where the Hound tells her he is taking her to the Twins (i cant see them having that scene in episode 9, she needs to already be near/at the twins in that ep). I really hope they have a few scenes togetehr in episode 8/9/10. I love their relationship and think it would be great to start building it this season. I also hope that they actually feature them at the RW instead of waiting until the final episode to show Arya arriving at the Twins. It would be more impactful if she appears during the actual episode.And from the preview, it looks like the Hound captures Arya during the night. I was expecting him to attack some of the Brotherhood and take her during the day (i remember seeing the Hound fighting in one of the trailers and it was broad daylight). So it looks like The Hound will be fighting at the Twins. So i expect him to capture her in ep 7, tell her where they are in going in ep 8, show up at the Twins in ep 9 and then maybe a scene featuring the two in the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordos_Kull Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm assuming that moment in the promos where someone slams a dagger down onto a table, just before Joffrey turns round is from this episode, as Tyrion does that in the books in reaction to Joffrey's comments during the wedding feast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori Targaryen Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Sky Atlantic have a small synopsis for this episode as:"Daenerys meets a mercenary on her quest for strength, Davos demands some proof of power from Melisandre, and King's Landing hosts a wedding." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayard Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Another reason for it to be called second sons is because Tyrion is one.Not only that, but Sansa is also a second child, so she is the heir to the North. This is the episode where Robb must talk about the will. He will need to name his heir Ned's second son: Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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