Robin Of House Hill Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 It isn't rage. I find the comments reassuring. Reassuring that perception of the world is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So, this isn't really relevant any kind of ongoing discussion, but I just wanted to share (with a fairly private, anonymous group of people) that my sister just came out to me tonight. I'm very happy for her, and just wanted to mention it as a proud older brother. They drunken text exchange was also pretty funny.Anyways, back to regularly scheduled discussions, already in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brook Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 That's the sort of reaction I'd love to see more of. I'm happy for your sister :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So, this isn't really relevant any kind of ongoing discussion, but I just wanted to share (with a fairly private, anonymous group of people) that my sister just came out to me tonight. I'm very happy for her, and just wanted to mention it as a proud older brother. They drunken text exchange was also pretty funny.Anyways, back to regularly scheduled discussions, already in progress.I'm glad she has your support and wish her well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yeah, it just one of those things that's not a big deal, but at the same time it kind of is (when you are that close to someone, that personal lens can magnify the import of anything). I know I don't need to say that here, but whatever. Thanks, Brook, Robin, and everyone else, for the support and well, indulging my little expression of pride here. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 That's an awesome story, RRL. I'm so happy for both you and her. :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I had one of those funny/awkward conversations with my mom last week, actually. I mean, she's known since I was 13 that I'm not straight. I am pretty sure she was honestly surprised that I wasn't strictly lesbian when I started dating guys in my late teens. But it's not a topic that has come up for a couple of decades. Cue my return from the diversity/inclusion summit, and I was relating the story of coming out to that group as "queer" and then having to explain to a couple of people what "queer" meant to me. And while I'm explaining my definition of queer (which includes the usual stuff, plus genderfluidity and polyamory) I realize that I'm telling my mom about a bunch of stuff about me that she's never heard. And ohgodtheawkward... So I defused this situation by getting into an argument with her about Ronald Reagan's terrible legacy in Central America. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yeah, it just one of those things that's not a big deal, but at the same time it kind of is (when you are that close to someone, that personal lens can magnify the import of anything). I know I don't need to say that here, but whatever.Thanks, Brook, Robin, and everyone else, for the support and well, indulging my little expression of pride here. Cheers Thank you for making our day brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emberling Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So I defused this situation by getting into an argument with her about Ronald Reagan's terrible legacy in Central America. :lol:Reagan: the gift that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 :rofl: Xray - best dodge ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 *scribbles down notes... "use... Reagan... defuse... theawkward...." * Re: RBPL Awesome sauce. It's fantastic that she felt comfortable enough to tell you, and that you're supportive of her. So very cool! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not a perfect article, as can be seen via the "born male" in the first sentence, but I figured this was still worth reading:The Trans-Everything CEO In person, Martine is magnificent, like a tall lanky teenage boy with breasts. She wears no makeup or jewelry, and she inhabits her muted clothing—jeans, a T-shirt, a floppy button-down thrown on top—in the youthful, offhand way of the tech elite. Martine is transgender, a power trans, which makes her an even rarer species in the corporate jungle than a female CEO. And she seems genuinely to revel in her self-built in-betweenness. Just after her sex-reassignment surgery, her appearance was more feminine than it is today—old photos show her wearing lipstick, her long, curly hair loose about her shoulders. But in the years since she has developed her own unisexual style. She is a person for whom gender matters enough to have undergone radical surgery, but not enough to care whether she’s called he or she by people, like her 83-year-old mother, who occasionally lose track of which pronouns to use. What she prefers to be called is “Martine.” To her four young grandchildren she is “Grand Martine.” Bina Aspen, the woman who married Martine 33 years ago, when Martine was a man, and remains her devoted wife, calls herself not straight or gay but “Martine-sexual”—as in the only person she wants to have sex with is Martine. Together Martine and Bina have four children, and they refer to Martine as “Martine” in conversations with strangers. At home, they call her “Dad.” In 1995, just after her transition, Martine published The Apartheid of Sex, a slim manifesto that insisted on an overhaul of “dimorphic” (her word) gender categories. “There are five billion people in the world and five billion unique sexual identities,” she wrote. “Genitals are as irrelevant to one’s role in society as skin tone. Hence, the legal division of people into males and females is as wrong as the legal division of people into black and white races.” Instead, she suggested people might better express their gender and sexual identities on a spectrum, perhaps in terms of color: Green might be “an equally aggressive/nurturing person who does not try to appear sexy” (lime green would be someone a little less aggressive), and purple might be someone gentle, nourishing, and erotic in equal measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I ignored the, "born male", but when I saw the following, decided it wasn't worth reading, further. “I can’t claim that what I have achieved is equivalent to what a woman has achieved. For the first half of my life, I was male.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emberling Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 In person, Martine is magnificent, like a tall lanky teenage boy with breasts. what the fuck no, seriously, what the fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 That is some piss-poor, tone-deaf writing. Jaysus. I am loathe to give NYMag the page views to read that article (especially given what has been posted above). Maybe I'll see if someone has a copy of the print mag on their desks at work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brook Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah it's terrible, I'm not clicking.In lighter news I broke the news of my friends transition to my younger two (aged 7 and 5) the other day. It went like this...Me: begins longwinded explanation7 year old, breaking in before I finished first sentence: So [friends name] is a girl?Me: umm yeah7 year old: Well what's the big deal then? Can I go to the park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanluke Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah it's terrible, I'm not clicking.In lighter news I broke the news of my friends transition to my younger two (aged 7 and 5) the other day. It went like this...Me: begins longwinded explanation7 year old, breaking in before I finished first sentence: So [friends name] is a girl?Me: umm yeah7 year old: Well what's the big deal then? Can I go to the park?Haha I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 That was after 2 days of nagging to know what it was after the 7 year old caught wind that his older brother knew something he didn't. Was quite the anti climax for him.We had been planning to tell them about me as well, but it never seemed to come up and now they've known me so long it feels weird. Time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Reminds me of my niece and nephew. "You mean like in ?"I don't remember the name of the character or show. Apparently, it isn't a big deal for kids if they haven't been poisoned by their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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