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I was listening to the Radiowesteros.com podcast the other day and came up with this thought. Excuse me if someone else has said this before. I think that Martin has put these monsters in the series. 

Frankenstein - Qyburn

Frankensteins monster - Gregor

Creature from the Blue Lagoon - Catelyn

Wolfman - Jon

Invisible man - Bran (could be a stretch but as a tree he is where you can't see him)

The Mummy - The white walkers

Dracula - unsure

quasimoto - Tyrion

Phantom of the Opera - The hound

Could be completely off base, but at least it's something new to talk about, I think haha. 

 

 

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There is a theory that the final conflict in the series was going to be Starks vs. Boltons after it was revealed that the reason for their animosity is that the Boltons are essentially vampires and the Starks were werewolves.  Vampires vs. werewolves was somewhat less cliched when the first book was written, but GRRM would have scrapped the idea because he would not want to be seen as copying Twilight.

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There is a theory that the final conflict in the series was going to be Starks vs. Boltons after it was revealed that the reason for their animosity is that the Boltons are essentially vampires and the Starks were werewolves.  Vampires vs. werewolves was somewhat less cliched when the first book was written, but GRRM would have scrapped the idea because he would not want to be seen as copying Twilight.

Yet another reason to abhor those books...I would have loved to see that.

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There is a theory that the final conflict in the series was going to be Starks vs. Boltons after it was revealed that the reason for their animosity is that the Boltons are essentially vampires and the Starks were werewolves.  Vampires vs. werewolves was somewhat less cliched when the first book was written, but GRRM would have scrapped the idea because he would not want to be seen as copying Twilight.

:lol: :lmao:Well said.

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 Catelyn is La Llorona (the wailer), the ghost/spirit/awoken body of a women who haunts rivers or lakes while looking for the children she lost (she drowned them, though).

"Oh, my children! Where are my children?!". That was quite scary when I was a child.

 

Black Lagoon, not Blue Lagoon.

Gillman vs Brooke Shields would have been interesting to watch though.

Right. It's a different thing that rises in the Blue Lagoon, if you catch my drift

LOL, Buffy made a joke about that

"I don't want you to be turn into the creature from the blue lagoon"

"You mean the monster from the black lagoon. Brooke shields is the creature from the blue lagoon"

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I am actually reading Bram Stocker's Dracula right now and highlighted this because it made me think of Bloodraven...

“he have still the aids of necromancy, which is, as his etymology imply, the divination by the dead, and all the dead that he can come nigh to are for him at command; he is brute, and more than brute; he is devil in callous, and the heart of him is not; he can, within his range, direct the elements, the storm, the fog, the thunder; he can command all the meaner things, the rat, and the owl, and the bat, the moth, and the fox, and the wolf, he can grow and become small; and he can at times vanish and come unknown”

Chapter 18. Dr. Seward's diary.

Throw in an elk and a raven or two ;)

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 Catelyn is La Llorona (the wailer), the ghost/spirit/awoken body of a women who haunts rivers or lakes while looking for the children she lost (she drowned them, though).

"Oh, my children! Where are my children?!". That was quite scary when I was a child.

 

 

LOL, Buffy made a joke about that

"I don't want you to be turn into the creature from the blue lagoon"

"You mean the monster from the black lagoon. Brooke shields is the creature from the blue lagoon"

Yes, Cat is so totally La Llorona: "Mi hijoooooooo!"

That used to make me poop my little Central America-raised pants back in the day

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Yes, Cat is so totally La Llorona: "Mi hijoooooooo!"

That used to make me poop my little Central America-raised pants back in the day

In the states we had a similar legend though it was about a man, and it occurred every Friday the 13th his name was Jason and he haunted a lake and would go looking for all the stupid teenagers of the world. He really was a beneficial spirit.

My advice to any reader is to read the Skin Trade and Fevre Dream then you will have a much better idea of what Martin is relating with the Boltons and Starks, and who the Others really are. It's not the first time Martin has used Vampires and Werewolves and when he did he did it to a lot acclaim.

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I was listening to the Radiowesteros.com podcast the other day and came up with this thought. Excuse me if someone else has said this before. I think that Martin has put these monsters in the series. 

Frankenstein - Qyburn

Frankensteins monster - Gregor

Creature from the Blue Lagoon - Catelyn

Wolfman - Jon

Invisible man - Bran (could be a stretch but as a tree he is where you can't see him)

The Mummy - The white walkers

Dracula - unsure

quasimoto - Tyrion

Phantom of the Opera - The hound

Could be completely off base, but at least it's something new to talk about, I think haha. 

 

 

I agree with most of the above, but:

Creature From The Black Lagoon: Howland Reed

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In the states we had a similar legend though it was about a man, and it occurred every Friday the 13th his name was Jason and he haunted a lake and would go looking for all the stupid teenagers of the world. He really was a beneficial spirit.

My advice to any reader is to read the Skin Trade and Fevre Dream then you will have a much better idea of what Martin is relating with the Boltons and Starks, and who the Others really are. It's not the first time Martin has used Vampires and Werewolves and when he did he did it to a lot acclaim.

What about Jason's mom, though? She really was the one who started it all. Such a sweetheart, teaching teenagers about the consequences of unsafe sex, campaigning early against bullying, killing Kevin Bacon to end the six degrees of separation thing before it got annoying, etc. 

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