Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 So, no one likes the anthology idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I don't see the point of it. There are reasons why anthology shows are rare. They're a lot of work to make, and a lot of viewers don't like them. Most viewers watch TV series for the characters as well as the setting, and that's certainly true of Firefly: what most people want is more Mal and River and Zoe. Anthology shows gamble that the setting is enough, and for most of us that's not true. It's also easy to dip in and out of anthology shows, which hurts viewing figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 O goddessa, that neo confederate thing. Just what these times need. Feh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 In an old Firefly thread from years back, I mentioned that they should offer Chiwetel Ejiofor a boatload of money to be the lead in a new series set in the same universe. Make it 10-12 eps (so Ejiofor would still have time to do movies), put it on F/X, and just be about him walking the 'verse like Kane from Kung Fu. That way you could slowly introduce the older characters back onto the show in an organic way. River obviously is still involved with the resistance in some way, Mal is a legendary underground figure because of his actions in the movie (and therefore in hiding), so on and so forth. The operative walks the 'Verse and does good deeds and whatnot until he gets sucked back up into the resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Zorral said: O goddessa, that neo confederate thing. Just what these times need. Feh. How is "Firefly" "neo-Confederate"? Were the "independents" fighting for the power to hold slaves? That never came out on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, Mike said: In an old Firefly thread from years back, I mentioned that they should offer Chiwetel Ejiofor a boatload of money to be the lead in a new series set in the same universe. Make it 10-12 eps (so Ejiofor would still have time to do movies), put it on F/X, and just be about him walking the 'verse like Kane from Kung Fu. That way you could slowly introduce the older characters back onto the show in an organic way. River obviously is still involved with the resistance in some way, Mal is a legendary underground figure because of his actions in the movie (and therefore in hiding), so on and so forth. The operative walks the 'Verse and does good deeds and whatnot until he gets sucked back up into the resistance. I always got the impression that he was going to fall on his sword after the events in Serenity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, briantw said: I always got the impression that he was going to fall on his sword after the events in Serenity. No. I think he was going to work against the corruption he now knows about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hmm, I never knew Nathan Fillion is a descendant of Jubal Early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: How is "Firefly" "neo-Confederate"? Were the "independents" fighting for the power to hold slaves? That never came out on the show. Mal does at one point use the "rise again" line (during the V-Day bar brawl), but that's the only thing I can think of that explicitly links the separatists to the Confederacy. I think you could also make parallels to the War of Independence, with the Alliance as the British and the browncoats as the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Brown shirts, brown shirts. Watch the the first ep. It's Whedon never thinking through any of it. Many people have noticed and commented, extensively, on this mess politically of Mal etc. Whedon ain't going there again. Especially now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, Zorral said: Brown shirts, brown shirts. Watch the the first ep. It's Whedon never thinking through any of it. Many people have noticed and commented, extensively, on this mess politically of Mal etc. Whedon ain't going there again. Especially now. So it is Neo-Nazi or Neo-Confederate? What is wrong with Mal not wanting to see his home forcibly incorporated into the Alliance of central planets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: So it is Neo-Nazi or Neo-Confederate? What is wrong with Mal not wanting to see his home forcibly incorporated into the Alliance of central planets? It's not particularly well-thought out and is very clumsy in this current political environment. Joss should basically stay the fuck away from commenting on any kind of socioeconomic or historical parallels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kalbear said: It's not particularly well-thought out and is very clumsy in this current political environment. Joss should basically stay the fuck away from commenting on any kind of socioeconomic or historical parallels. What is wrong with the way "Firefly"'s politics are presented. Please spell it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just now, Ser Scot A Ellison said: What is wrong with the way "Firefly"'s politics are presented. Please spell it out. They're immature, do not reasonably represent things like speed of travel or cultural boundaries or threats of interstellar war, allow for an absurd amount of illegal behavior without any threat of particular reprisal, are simultaneously incredibly fascisistic and incredibly libertarian, are bizarrely feudalistic for no particularly good reason, and have a weird emphasis on individuals making massive differences while the government appears to be both omnipotent and completely inept. It's politics as envisioned by someone who learned Star Wars at an early age and believed that it was both an accurate representation and wasn't independent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, Kalbear said: They're immature, do not reasonably represent things like speed of travel or cultural boundaries or threats of interstellar war, allow for an absurd amount of illegal behavior without any threat of particular reprisal, are simultaneously incredibly fascisistic and incredibly libertarian, are bizarrely feudalistic for no particularly good reason, and have a weird emphasis on individuals making massive differences while the government appears to be both omnipotent and completely inept. It's politics as envisioned by someone who learned Star Wars at an early age and believed that it was both an accurate representation and wasn't independent enough. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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