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I thought the first 20ish minutes were pretty good. I do think the end montage was quite good as well, with the only problem being how rushed the last two seasons were to get to that point. The endings of the primary surviving characters were cheapened because they didn't take the proper time to set them up, but the montage itself still worked for me.

I mean, hard to disagree given what pricks they've been to the fans every time the fans weren't willing to eat their shit.

What they should have done was just say he was exiled, and then he decides to go North beyond the Wall instead of to Essos. Same outcome, better explanation.

Yeah, unfortunately it seems like he wants to be Kobe, and that includes the part about being a me-first prick on the court and off. But Kobe was way better than Kyrie, and was a top-tier defender in his prime, something Kyrie has not and will never be even if he cared enough to try, which he did for a few months this year before he stopped giving a shit again.

The thing with the Thrones ending is that I went into it with such low expectations that it actually ended up being better than expected. It wasn't good, although the first 20 minutes or so were pretty good. The main problem is that the writing has been so bad to get to this point that they couldn't possibly have made the necessary narrative leaps for the endings of the prominent characters to feel earned and not out of nowhere. Like, the end montage could have been great had the previous two seasons properly built up to it, but none of it felt deserved because the last two seasons were so ridiculously rushed and bereft of logic. And the middle third of the finale was basically more of that illogical, rushed writing that got them into this mess in the first place. But still, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, so I guess bonus points?

I think Kyrie's issue is that he's a second banana who thinks he is and desperately wants to be a first banana. He's not good enough to be the best player on a championship team, but he's a damn good second best player on a title team, as we saw when he came up big for the Cavs and helped them come back from 3-1. LeBron was clearly the best player in that series, but Kyrie was really damn good.

Dude sounds like NoHo Hank from Barry.

I'd assume the Night's Watch is still sworn to defend the realm, which would mean all of Westeros. Not that it really matters at this point because they're not really defending it from anyone any more.

I think the fates of the Starks will all be the same, or at least similar. Just the paths to get there less shitty. I think the fates of Jaime and Cersei will be radically different. I think D&D fell in love with Lena and changed her end game because of it. They also castrated Euron and presumably gave a lot of his role in the story to the Night King, who probably doesn't exist (at least not as that specific character) in the books. So his ending will almost certainly be wildly different.

Honestly, they're probably better suited for working on big budget films. Say what you want about the writing, but this show was a fucking masterpiece visually, especially toward the end when they had a boatload of money to work with. Your average Star Wars film is a hell of a lot more simplistic than A Song of Ice & Fire too. We may never see another television show as pretty as this one.

I'd imagine the king can pretty easily waive someone's Night's Watch oath. Stannis implied as much in the books when he offered Jon Winterfell. Plus, the Night's Watch doesn't really do anything any more, seeing as the foe they were established to protect the realm from has been defeated.

Tyrion kind of summed it up, I thought. They still need a place to send people too important to kill while also effectively writing them off (they can no longer marry), along with a place where criminals can opt to be sent rather than be maimed for their crimes. And really, no one believed the Others were real at the start of this story and the Night's Watch still existed. It'll basically go back to being what it was shortly before the series started, only with the wildlings on peaceful terms with the Watch.

Jon should have just said the dragon torched her and fucked off.

I think what they're saying is more that there's no real reason for it to exist any more. The wildlings are cool with everyone now and the Night King is dead.

Thought the first twenty minutes or so were really good, but it went to absolute shit right after Jon killed Dany. That was the last good scene.