Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Hammer of Justice said: No no, Arthur Dayne fled north and met the children of the forest, he is the three-eyed crow now and he is teaching Bran, notice that Bloodraven has a ruby eye, that's actually Arthur Dayne disguised as Bloodraven using a glamour eye He did that after the Trident. Cause remember, Elder Brother fixed him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Ilyrio DOES wear a ruby... on one of his rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fresh PtwP Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Lord Varys said: There are other clues as well. Rhaegar is a descendant of Aegon the Unworthy, who was fat only later in life, just as Illyrio is now. It also explains why Illyrio uses Viserys and Dany as pawns in his game - he knows that Aegon is the promised prince. One assumes his battered body landed on the Quiet Isle, got healed by the Elder Brother (who washed up there at the same time), and then he took a ship to Pentos, and killed the real Illyrio Mopatis to impersonate him. That guy was not related to Aegon the Unworthy, explaining why it doesn't make any sense that the real Illyrio would grow so fat. The whole Blackfyre angle never made sense, anyway. That's why I always had Illyrio pegged as a descendant of Bittersteel and Calla Blackfyre. Illyrio seems to parallel Aegon IV in so many ways and explains the blood connection to the Golden Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Isobel Harper said: Ilyrio DOES wear a ruby... on one of his rings. Sadly I don't think it glows or pulses, which seems to be the telltale sign of a glamour. But let's not let that get in the way here. It's more fun without such facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCK Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Not a totally ridiculous theory, or it's less ridiculous than some other ones. There needs to be motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw of House Boltagon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 39 minutes ago, Lady Blizzardborn said: Sadly I don't think it glows or pulses, which seems to be the telltale sign of a glamour. But let's not let that get in the way here. It's more fun without such facts. Illyrio is obviously rich enough to buy the really high quality magical glamour rubies. You know, the ones that don't glitch all the time like whatever tacky ass second hand Ivanka Trump rhinestone Melisandre has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Ferocious Veldt Roarer said: Still a better love story than Twilight a theory better argued than "the poison was in Tyrion's pie". Can't believe the mods shut that down, it was just getting good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Maxxine said: I'm not sure how serious this thread is supposed to be but I'll go with it. If Rhaegar is Illryrio why would he push Aegon instead of himself? Wouldn't it be easier to get people to come to Rhaegar instead of his son who no one knows? Naaaah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Robert Baratheon's hammer said: Rhaegar met his end at the trident from a hammer to the chest. Oh shit you're right, I forgot about that. Everybody go back to what you were doing, this thread is cancelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Lady Blizzardborn said: When did we decide Illyrio's appearance is a glamour? I don't recall any pulsing rubies on him. You might like my new theory. How is Aegon the second coming of Egg? He's not remotely bald. 1. He's always said to be unusually light on his feet for such a tub of guts, and then there's all the rings and the weird beard and such. Seems very glamourous. 2. Yes but he's the perfect prince who cares about the reg'lar people. He's probably going to have another go at Egg's reforms. 4 hours ago, Seams said: 3) Tywin has a problem with up-jumped spice merchants. But he supposedly had a behind-the-scenes alliance with Rhaegar to try to crown him and get rid of the Mad King. So how would you reconcile Tywin's warm relationship with Rhaegar and his antipathy for spice merchants? Like so: I think Tywin's "warm relationship" has been drastically overstated. Just because he preferred Rhaegar as king doesn't mean he liked Rhaegar personally, and it certainly doesn't mean that Rhaegar liked Tywin, or that Rhaegar wanted to usurp his father. Indeed, the only time we get Rhaegar's perspective is in Jaime's recollection, and the clear inference is that, whatever options had previously been available to him vis a vis usurpation, he had declined them. So no, I don't think him and Tywin were in cahoots. Either that or Rhaegar knows that posing as a merchant is the last thing Tywin would expect 4 hours ago, Lyin' Ned said: In before someone posts a passage about one of his many rings being a...DUN DUN DUN...ruby! Because y'all know what that means! Say it together, kids: IT'S A GLAMOUR! That's right 3 hours ago, The Hammer of Justice said: Rhaegar doesn't need glamours you silly, he fled the trident after his loss, and went to Braavos to be trained by the faceless men. And the faceless men said: "- Yo, why you using those noob glamours? We know a technique to steal people's ID waaaaay better than this!" and Rhaegar was like "- Yo, please teach me!!" and the FM " - Yo, there is a price you know, it costs one dragon egg!" and Rhaegar "Duuuuude, I'm a Targaryen, I gots lots of dragon eggs, you can even choose the color!" If you're not gonna take this seriously then you can git out 3 hours ago, Lady Blizzardborn said: 2) they're Lyanna's. Despite the best efforts of the half-maester at the tower of joy, they could never get the arteries and veins to stay sealed. This is why her bed was covered in blood when Ned found her. Obviously Ned didn't want anyone to know about this, so he never allows himself to think much about his sister or her boyfriend's freaky hand fetish. Heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Minus 'glamour' I have to say the startling idea that Rhaegar could have fled an aged into an obese petulant cheese master with breasts like bags of suet is kind of appealing. Why can't I come up with these ideas? What's wrong with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Castellan said: Minus 'glamour' I have to say the startling idea that Rhaegar could have fled an aged into an obese petulant cheese master with breasts like bags of suet is kind of appealing. Why can't I come up with these ideas? What's wrong with me? You just need practice, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Walter of AShwood Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, Lady Blizzardborn said: You just need practice, that's all. It all depends on when you started with the first book... I guess if you have read the books several times now, things will become clearer and clearer. Also, the long wait is of course part of the experience. #AndNowMyWaitHasEnded should go viral on twitter (if it is still around then) when ADOS will be released as the final book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgrav Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This is the perfect place to mention my completely unsubstantiated and likely impossible theory that Rhsegar is a secret Blackfyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrio Mo'Parties Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, cgrav said: This is the perfect place to mention my completely unsubstantiated and likely impossible theory that Rhsegar is a secret Blackfyre. You should put that in spoiler tags, Rhsegar hasn't appeared in the published material yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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