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  1. In the movie Dark Star (1974) by John Carpenter, the titular ship Dark Star looks and sounds just like an X-Wing Fighter and it blows up planets. Seriously, check out this scene from the movie. There is a little bulb thing on top of the ship that looks and sounds just like R2D2. And in Star Wars Luke uses his X-wing fighter to blow up the planteoid/Death Star. The movie Dark Star is absolutely terrible though, I had to stop watching after 10 minutes, but GRRM loved it, he says it is one of his favorite movies. Luke's original character name was Deak Starkiller--Dark Star killer, and he destroys the Death Star (Dark/Deak/Darth/Death Star) So that got me thinking about other Star Wars names. In Norse mythology, at Ragnarok when the sun is eclipsed, Vidar destroys the celestial object that is causing the eclipse. Vidar sounds like Vader. So I looked up words that sound like Vader. In hindi: vēdha 1. piercing, penetration. 2. Pl. wounding. 3. distinguishing; observing (heavenly bodies), to pierce; to observe (as a planet), observatory. [The Sanskrit root vid/ved meaning "to know" is found in several languages, in Latin "video" and "wit/wot" in English, wissen in German, etc.--so it is possible the vidr in Old Norse actually comes from this word, as there is a surprising amount of remnants of Sanskrit words in Gaelic] Vidar is a destroyer of celestial objects, and so is Vader. Vader's ship is a planetoid that is a planet-destroying moon/space station. In hindi dur means "evil", and "pearl" and "to lie hidden" and Star Wars is largely based on the movie The Hidden Fortress, and Durth Vadur's ship is pearl-shaped and evil. (The Black Pearl in ASoIaF is a metaphor for the second moon, that is a hidden fortress. The Black Pearl is Bellegere Otherys--in Latin belliger means "to wage war" and Otherys=The Others, the black pearl brings the invasion of the Others.) In my Ragnarok thread I argued that Jon is Vidar who destroys the Dark Star, the celestial body that is eclipsing the sun during the Long Night--Vidr ends the eclipse with a tree (as vidr means "tree"). In the hindi dictionary jana (Jon) is right below jadu (Jedi) jāna 1. life, spirit; animating force 2. vitality, vigour. 3. essential quality, essence. jādū 1. magic; a spell, charm. 2. enchantment. 3. sleight-of-hand: conjury; juggling. —, to break a spell, to disenchant. to bewitch, to enchant. m. a magician, wizard; conjurer, juggler. The jedi are wizards that can do mind tricks. And the sithi are magic fairies from Celtic myth. Jon is a Jedi. Vader is a sword-fighter, and vedha means "piercing, penetrating, wounding," furthermore: vadhaka , m. 1. a killer. 2. a hunter. vetr means "reed, cane, rattan" (implies sword fighting) and vetta means "knower; an expert" (Sith Lord) And Anakin comes from: anīka-, 1. sharp point (of spear, arrow, 2. end, tip. 3. face, front. 4. prow [almost the same definition as vedha] anakha , 1. anger; displeasure. 2. envy. 3. malice. ānākānī 1. turning a deaf ear; not acknowledging (one); showing reserve. 2. overlooking, conniving. 3. excuse, pretence. 4. whispering. — , to turn a deaf ear; to overlook, to disregard; to make excuses. yōddhā. 1. a warrior, soldier. 2. contender, champion (for, of). padma means "lotus" ami means "sweet one, darling" and ḍhōlā means "a lover" Padme Amidala Obi-wan might come from ubhiyānā "to rise up" jhabba is a hindi word but it means "tassel, pendant" what does that mean?--he has Leia on a leash that's all I can think of fitana (Boba Fett) means "serious trouble, a troublesome person, a pest"
  2. @Seams I am not a Star Wars fan, and it has probably been 15 years since I saw any of the movies, but I have noticed that George Lucas has used some of GRRMs ideas in Star Wars. In GRRM's short story The Stone City, Captain MacDonald gets taken by the Dan'lai and as a punishment gets partially embedded in a wall: A ship's captain gets frozen into a wall, which is almost exactly what happens to Han Solo, except MacDonald is killed in the process. And Preston has pointed out that George Lucas probably got the idea of the light sabres from GRRM's Starlady. Hairy Hal has a "force blade" that is a ghostly blue force-field knife, and Star Lady came out before Star Wars. which the Light-Sabers are a (the ghostly blade also parallels the Others' swords). And Hairy Hal has his sword arm mangled, and Luke gets his sword hand severed. And Lucas also ripped off the ewoks/wookiees from George's story And Seven Times Never Kill Man. George Lucas co-wrote the movie Willow, where a special baby is born named Elora Danan, the baby girl was prophesied to bring down the evil queen, so the queen wanted to kill her and sends assassins to track her down, and Danan gets saved/protected by the dwarf Willow. I haven't read them, but there is a novel trilogy to Willow is called Shadow Moon, Shadow Dawn, and Shadow Star, and in the last novel Danan has possession of the last two dragon eggs. And she has killed the living dragons to keep the devil from being able to control them. I searched the text of the novel Shadow Moon, to see what was meant by that phrase, but the phrase "shadow moon" is never used.
  3. There might be some wordplay on meera ~ mirror, twins who are mirror images of one another. In gaelic muirigean (Meera + Jon) means "an encumbrance, a burden or charge; a family, a young family"; meur/meoir means "branch of the family, kindred" (geinid means "little finger" and meuran means "small finger") and Meera's brother is Jojen ~ j-jon. (joj means "crow" in Mayan, and Jon is a crow) Jon is a green boy, with friend named Grenn, Jojen is a greendreamer with green eyes. In The Marsh King's Daughter a frog turns into a princess. And what causes her to transform is the compassion of a priest who is compared several times to the god Baldor--(and Bran, the summer child with a wolf named Summer, is a direct parallel to Baldor, the summer god who is killed by Hodr the winter god, with a mistletoe arrow, and Baldor's soul is then preserved inside the mistletoe until the next summer). Bran could turn Meera from a frog into a princess by looking into the past. (in Dinneen's gaelic dictionary muir-bran is the "sea-crow, mergus" [Meera + Bran = merge]) In Old Norse mær means "maid, girl, virgin" and mærr means "famous, glorious, great" and maer/meyja means "girlhood, maid" and maer/ mjor means "slender" and myri means "swamp, bog, moor" In Old Norse merja means "to crush" and Bran has a crush on Meera. mara means "to float" and the Reeds live in a floating castle, and mara means "nightmare" (from merja "to crush")--above mara are words that mean "love song" "youthful girl" and "cannibal/man eater" murra/murr means "wall" and Meera climbs the Wall and goes through the Wall. I just noticed that Bran eating the Reeds is foreshadowed when he first meets them: "Bran wondered if he would have to eat a frog to be polite." And the repetition of phrase "frogeaters" in reference to the Reeds, they eat frogs and they are frogs that will be eaten. (in The Marsh King's Daughter Storks eat frogs). And there is the Jojen in a bole/bowl wordplay. And when they go through the Black Gate they die, and Sam has to swear three times that Bran is dead. And they become cannibals before reaching the cave, and when they eat the Elk: "He told himself he would not eat, that it was better to go hungry than to feast upon a friend, but in the end he'd eaten twice,"--he eats twice, twice he feasts upon a friend-- foreshadows Bran eating Jojen and Meera. And in Old Norse, meyra / meyrr means "tender, like meat" In real world astronomy the star Mira is in the neck of the sea-monster Cetus, Meera comes from the Neck, but this could be foreshadowing of her being eaten by the sea-monster. (and myrda means "to conceal, murder") In gaelic, mire means "bit, part or piece of anything, as of bread; luncheon" So, I think Bran was forced to eat Meera and Jojen. That is the mara/myre nightmare, that Bran is tricked into eating Meera. (If both Meera and Jon got murdered in Dance, by people who were supposed to be their friends, then they are mirrors of each other.) In George's short story A Night at the Tarn House, the entire story is a metaphor for a weirwood cave, and people who go to the Tarn House are killed and put into meat pies to attract more victims, and some are fed to the Hissing Eels (weirwood roots) And Chimwazle is a green toad man and he finds a finger in his meat pie, and meur/meoir means "finger" in gaelic (it also means "branch, bough" and "prong"). "Wisps of steam rose through the pie’s broken crust to form hideous faces in the air, their mouths open in torment." parallels the faces on the weirwood paste bowl. In Hindi, mara means "lean, skinny" and right above it marni means "paste" and maran means "dying, death" Also the Reeds are crannogmen, and crannog means "tree" in gaelic, and Meera and Jojen are children/offspring/seeds of the Crannogmen--so in a sense they are tree seeds. So Bran eating weirwood seeds could be a clever reference to him eating Reeds. In gaelic mire also means "mirth, merriment, flirting" but also "rage, fury, madness" --when Bran finds out that he ate Meera he becomes mad with rage and fury and kills everyone in Bloodraven's cave and vows to destroy the weirwood network. In Latin, maeror means "mourning, sadness, grief" There is an Asimov novel called The End of Eternity, about a young man (Harlan) is recruited into a time-travelers guild (Eternity) that controls human civilization for its own ends--they think they are keeping humans safe, but they are really just keeping them stagnant--civilization is prevented from advancing because they don't want to allow space travel, the protagonist uses the time-travel device (kettle) to go into the past and prevent it from being invented, thus erasing the guild and freeing humans from their meddling oversight. I think that is essentially Bran's arc. --that is why Bloodraven is the last greenseer--because Bran is going to terminate the program. Which is very similar to the plot of Forbidden Planet, where an alien supercomputer network in a cave under a hill with red and white trees on it can manifest nightmares of a sleeping dreamer into reality, and in the end the computer has to be destroyed because it is too dangerous to exist. And Morbius self-destructs the computer, killing himself in the process. In The End of Eternity what prompts Harlan to destroy the time-travel guild is that he falls in love with a woman Noys, and he would have to kill her to preserve Eternity, but he opts to go into the past with her and prevent time-travel from being invented, and it ends with him and her in a cave in the past--and they have erased their own timeline and set humanity free. Noys was for a time hidden in part of the timeline that he could not reach, and it is only a slight modification of this plot if she was killed by the time-travel guild and that was why he chose to destroy them. In The Whisperer in Darkness there is a character named Noyes, and that story fungus tree crabs steal people's brains, and Noyes presumably gets his brain put in a jar. In gaelic, Bran = brain, and they are trying to steal his brain. And Bran calls Bloodraven "the whisperer in darkness" and the weirwoods and the greenseers are a time-travel guild that meddles in human affairs. The brains in jars can go backward and forward in time and visit other worlds. In George's short story Under Siege, a crippled boy time travels into the past, takes over someones body and erases his own timeline. I was just thinking about the idea of Bran actually being various historical characters from history--that he skin-changed people in the past and lived their lives--that it is just be a metaphor about reading stories, because at its core ASoIaF is really just a story about a crippled boy re-imagining British and European history in a more fantastical way, and inserting himself into many of the important characters in history when he reads their stories: "A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies," said Jojen. "The man who never reads lives only one. The singers of the forest had no books. No ink, no parchment, no written language. Instead they had the trees, and the weirwoods above all. " Going into the weirwood, Bran will live a thousand lives before he dies.
  4. I have never heard of him before, but that was a good video. And it fits in surprisingly well with the events of ASoIaF. He is saying that the occasion of the Wild Hunt gave the young men of society a designated time when they put on "masks" and "become the dead" to purge the undesirables from their community and enforce social norms for the betterment of the community. (I have read that Odin's undead einerjar army may have just been soldiers who wore black and attacked at night for maximum effect, and the Koryos idea is very similar.) The young men of the Nights Watch have been cast out of society, and they return to society as an invading army of undead (Craster thought he was safe because he was a "godly man" but he was purged as well) The Starks hold to the Old Ways--ice preserves and they preserve and enforce tradition (and the Others are just an extreme version of idea--they are frozen, they never change--and the Starks are the Others/are descended from the Others/lead the Others [Stark white]). The Starks kept trying to improve things using normal channels and getting killed for their efforts, Brandon and Rickard get brutally killed trying to rescue Lyanna, Ned tries to shape-up King's Landing and gets killed, Robb tries to bring justice to the South and he and Cat get betrayed and brutally killed, Jon tries to shape-up the Night's Watch and gets killed by his own men. Normal means have failed, so now it is time for the purge--the Long Night. In the Poetic Edda it is implied that Ragnarok occurs because society has become decadent--brothers killing brothers, incest and whoredom is rampant--and then the wolf-age begins Middle Earth gets attacked on all sides by Fenrir, the ice giants, and fire giants and everything collapses. When Robb was killed he symbolically came back as a wolf man--with Grey Wind's head sewn on to Robb's body (rob means "quadruped" in gaelic). Jon will come back as a wolf/man berserker, and like Fenrir will consume everything in his path. Starks are werewolves, and the Long Night is when you would expect them to transform into their true form. Here is something interesting, in the 1888 Oxford English Dictionary, Black Prince means "the eldest son of Edward III" (so named because of his black deeds and he wore black armor) and it also means "the prince of darkness, the devil" (the Night's King the 13th Lord Commander was the leader during the darkness) I think Jon is the eldest son of Eddard (is he the third of his name?), Jon took the black and has a dream of wearing black ice armor. Right above black prince is black pot which is a running metaphor for the eclipse of the Long Night and Jon got elected LC by a black pot. And in the next column is Blackthorn, which is the plant that grows sloes, and Jon is the son of the sloe-eyed maid. (a sloe is a purple-black fruit, so there could be a play on words with sun/son and having purple-black eyes--the sun is the God's Eye and it turns black) Ragnarok was a renewing of the world, a fresh start. The undead army is going to purge everyone and there will be a fresh start. I have argued that the Others are not the villains of the story, because George has said that we don't need anymore Dark Lords and because that is the plot of George's story In the House of the Worm (the real villain was the White Worm). Fun fact, "Mordor" comes from the Anglo-Saxon word mordor meaning "violence, slaughter, murder, torment, misery, mortal sin" and in Old Norse mördr means "marten" and in Anglo-Saxon myrten means "carrion, the dead" and in gaelic, mairtineach means "a cripple" (the Black Gate separates the dead from the living, and the Black Gate opens during the Long Night to let the dead back into the world of the living--parallels the Black Gates of Mordor opening under Sauron's darkness to let the orcs invade Gondor (orc means "pig" and "demon" and "worker/slave" in various languages) The "S" in Gaelic looks like an "R", and mairtin/maistin means "a ferocious looking dog" and mairt/maist means a large vessel, and mairte/maiste means "torch" Army of the dead lead by a cripple/ferocious dog under a large vessel (that is eclipsing the sun) and the torch is the Red Comet, the Red Sword of Heroes.
  5. She is a septa so it is probably comes from ordain--as in "member of the clergy" ordain comes from the Latin ordinatio, which means "to govern" and she is the girls' governess. And she is a stereotype of a strict catholic nun schoolteacher. moidin means "a devout person" mordhaighe means "proud, vain" and mordha "honor, dignity, greatness, noble" (aryan means the same things in Hindu) moruadh means" sea monster" Her name might be a combination of murad and muraim which both mean "demurring, crushing, leveling, walling in, pulling down" --referencing Mordane trying to force Arya to be a proper little lady. And it might be a statement about girls education vs boys education in general-- the way Bran is taught by Luwin vs how the girls are taught by Mordane (also mordant means "biting criticism"). Other tinfoil possibilities, mur means "wall" + Dayne = a Dayne at the Wall, muire means "Mother Mary" + Dayne. In french la mère means "the Mother" if Jon is supposed to be Jesus. (le mort means "the dead" and lemur means "ghost") ----------- Change of subject I just checked the Oxford Hindu dictionary to see what words sound like Jon, jan means "a man" and janata means "the people, population" In Gaelic duine mean "a man" and daoine means "men, population" (dunedain ranger hidden prince in the north) Jon = Dayne jāna means "knowledge, understanding" and ajāna means "unknowing, ignorant" --In gaelic geoin means "fool"-- Jon famously "knows nothing" (I think he will perceive the runes while he is dead, and come back with understanding of the true Stark heritage) janvari means "January"; (gionbar/geanar means "January" in gaelic), janral means "general" and jarana means "to grow cold" and janga means "war, battle" (Jon leads the Others) jāna means "life, spirit, animating force" (ghost) jānā "to go, depart, to lead" janna means "birth, origin" and in Gaelic gein means "birth, origin, genesis"; geanead [Jon/Ned] means "begetting" and geanidean [Jon/Ned/Dayne] means "genesis"; geinid [Jon/Ned] means "sprite, small potato, little finger" and acharradh means "sprite, dwarf") gion means "small potato" janai means "midwife" --Davos sails to White Harbor incognito on the Merry Midwife (baby delivery / baby smuggler) Also, and gionc means "dog" and gionach means "greedy, voracious" janun means "possession by a jinn: madness, mental disturbance" --Jon comes back possessed by madness and berserker fury and fuckin kills everyone, like in his dream where he is hacking up Ygritte and Robb and everyone else. (in that dream he is armored in black ice like the second moon, he is high up in the sky, and he is wielding the Red Sword of Heroes) In Dinneen's gaelic dictionary, on the page with the words starting with "gean" is the phrase geam-oidche which means "a winter's night, a long night; a long period . . .the winter night of centuries"
  6. In celtic myth Neid had two wives, Babd and Nemain who are two of the Three Sisters that make up the Morrigan, the third is Macha. So Ned and the "Fisherman's Daughter" passing through the Three Sisters is a big clue about Ned getting married at the Wolf's Den. (Wyman -- uaim means "join, union" and uaimh means "den" and there is a hidden Weirwood at the Wolf's Den where weddings would take place, and daingean [Dayne + Jon] means "stronghold" and "marriage" and naoidean [Ned + Dayne] means "infant" and naodaire means "boatman, sailor"--White Harbor: to "harbor" something is to protect/shelter it, and snow=white, and Jon Stark built the Wolf's Den and in gaelic the words for "onion" [oinninn/uinneamh] and "Ash tree /ashen" [oinsean/uinseann] are right next to each other, Davos is retracing Ashara's journey in the Three Sisters and White Harbor, and between them is the word oinseach = "abandoned woman" sean = Jon in gaelic) Neid / Neit / Nuad / Nuada was called "Nuad of the Silver Hand", and the Ned's badge of office for Hand of the King is a silver hand. The silver hand was a replacement hand, and Ned was a replacement Hand for Robert. Nuad gets killed and beheaded by Balor of the Evil Eye, and Ned is beheaded on the steps of the Sept of Baelor. (and Ned got betrayed by Baelish) Nuad had a magic sword called "the Sword of Light" which was a "glowing bright torch"--which supports the idea that Ice / Dawn are comet swords, (Ice is broken, and they could not get the color of the swords to turn red--the sword would not ignite) Babd and Nemain both mean "crow". The Three Sisters of the Morrigan are daughters of Cailitin (very close to Catelyn). Naoid means "baby" and nead means "nest" and Bran is a crow and Jon is a crow, and Sansa is a little bird. Babd is also called Babd Catha "battle crow"-- Catelyn or Lady Stoneheart, who is the Morrigan. Neaman / nemain means "royston crow" and neamann means "a diamond, mother of pearl, a beautiful woman"--Ashara was regarded as one of the most beautiful women in Westeros. naom means "holy person" and I think Lemore is Ashara who went into the Faith at the Sept of the Snows at White Harbor, and naomog means "a small boat" Ned is the "quiet wolf" and Jon is the silent wolf. I just realized that a jinn (jann / genie) is a ghost, Jon = jann = ghost. For that matter is Jenny of Oldstones really the jinn / genie of Oldstones? A weirwood ghost? I just realized why there are nine nazgul, naisg means "bound, chained" and one the next page is naoi "nine" then on the next page is nasc meaning "ring"
  7. In Dinneen's gaelic dictionary oideann / oigeann (Odin / Jon) means "boiler, cauldron" as well as "river source. . . source of the Blackwater"* (and is on the same page as a bunch of words that mean "snow / ice / frost") The God's Eye is the source of the Blackwater, and the God's Eye is Odin's One Eye, where Yggdrasil is located. I think George is blurring the line between Yggdrasil and Odin, as Wodan / Odin is a wooden man and may just be a personification of the weirwood network. (also the weirwood at Winterfell broods over a black pool--blackwater). Odin's One Eye is a metaphor for the sun (and the God's Eye lake is a mirror). Odin originally had two eyes, but he sacrificed an eye for a drink of Mimir's well of knowledge. Mimir's Well is the weirwood cave, and drinking from the Well is gaining access to the weirwood network / well of knowledge. But they speak of Odin's second eye as being "hidden": I know where Odin's eye is hidden, Deep in the wide-famed well of Mimir; Odin's other eye is hidden in a well in a cave, which parallels Euron's blue eye vs. his black eye shining with malice. The black eye is normally hidden, under a patch--like an invisible moon--and Euron's sigil is depicting an eclipse--and the phrase "crow's eye" is a kenning of "black eye"--since crow's eyes are black, and uran/vran means "crow". At Ragnarok Odin's black eye is revealed and the world is destroyed. As a parallel to Euron crow's eye, Mors Crowfood Umber has an eye patch that conceals a chunk of black dragonglass. Mors is the god of death, and umbra means "shadow"--as in an eclipse, and the hidden eye is a black chunk of dragonglass. A black rock is associated with the god of death, the Shadow, and the (h)Others. In Lovecraft the black planet Yuggoth is made entirely of black stone and has black rivers of pitch that flow through Cyclopean ruins--the God's Eye is a cyclops, and the Blackwater river flows out of it. (Yuggoth ~Ygg) It just occurred to me that Asshai sounds like "Ash Eye" --and the weirwoods are the cosmic Ash tree Yggrasil that is centered at the God's Eye--and the black river Ash flows out of Ash Eye. So a black river (Black water) flows out of the Ash Eye (God's Eye). And the Ash Eye is a good description of the black moon when it eclipses the sun. And Asshai is a gigantic city all made of greasy black stone, like Yuggoth is. (in George's story In the House of the Worm, the sun has gone cold and turned the color of ash, and the humans all live underground and worship death and their god is the white worm of death--and they view the dying sun in the chamber of obsidian which is a black mirror) Lml and others have proposed that Essos is a black mirror of Westeros, and I am thinking that Asshai is a metaphor for Westeros under the Black Sun of the Long Night--and by night the God's Eye lake itself is a black mirror. In Asshai something is blocking out the sun, and horrible shit is going on there, and the greenseer is seated at Stygai "the corpse city at the Shadow's heart," and the ghost grass / shadow swords / Others are gathered under the Shadow. And in The Tree on the Hill the Black Goat / Yuggoth causes an endless night on Earth. The references to cauldrons and boilers are references to the second moon and the Long Night, because in celtic myth Bran's cauldron brings the dead back to life. Euron's valyrian steel suit of armor might be a reference to the second moon also, and the suit can only be penetrated by the sword Dawn. In the Qartheen Moon myth the moon is an "egg" and it eclipsed the sun. In gaelic aog means "death, ghost, spectre, skeleton" and aoighean means "Stranger, guest, traveler" and uigean means "fugitive, lonely wanderer" (where the name Yuggoth comes from) and ugh means "egg" The second moon is an egg/aog/aoigh/uig--and it is the Stranger, the god of death, a fugitive, lonely wanderer. (In celtic myth, Bran's half-brother gets inside the cauldron and makes it explode, Jon is Bran's half brother and he is associated with the Nights King, and his name might be Aegon / aoighean / uigean. Odin's Other Eye is a black metallic vessel, that is the Stranger, that brings the dead back to life, one of Odin's names is Draugadróttinn "Lord of the undead" (Aegon the Conqueror came to Westeros on a gigantic black dragon, the black dread, and he came from Dragonstone, a gigantic smoking black dragon island, Balerion is associated with a black cat [Lion of Night]. There might be some Balor of the Evil Eye wordplay going on with Balor-eye-on. One of the names of Odin is Báleygr "flaming eye") In Dwelly's gaelic dictionary oidean (Odin) and gion (Jon) both mean "love" (gion also means Ravenous / Greedy, and Odin's wolves are named Geri and Freki in Old Norse, both meaning "the ravenous" or "greedy one") Under oigheann (oi-Jon) it says "see aghann" (Aegon), (and right below that is oigheannach meaning "thistle") Aeg~Ygg / Odin aigheannach means "corn thistle"--Jon is heavily associated with corn, and Thistle is a stand-in for Jon. aighear means "joy" --(r)aighear and the Tower of Joy. aigean means "abyss" (and barathrum means "abyss") and aigh means "deer" and oigh means "stag" aighne / aghann means "prophet"--and Rhaegar was trying to fulfill a prophecy by birthing a son named Aegon. So Jon = Odin = Aegon (odhann means "kettle" and odan means "froth", and Odin stole the frothy mead of poetry out of a vat) *Also, the song Black Water by the Doobie Brothers the chorus repeatedly mentions the moon and black water
  8. I have a lot to say about smiths. Donal Noye--In gaelic, dionnal means "a shot" and dionnan means "a little hill" and d'aon means "to raise up, ascent" and naoi means "nine, a man, a ship" The weirwood grove of nine can fire a shot into the sky / make a ship (itself) ascend into the sky (the Smith is invoked at the launching of a ship and the creation of swords). Westeros is a living creature with a single arm, like Donal Noye, his other arm is a stump (tree stump). In Lord of the Rings, Earendil gets launched into the sky in a magic white ship, becomes the Dawn Star/Flammifer/Light-bringer, and kills the black dragon Ancalagon and brings the dawn. naodhan ("well, fountain") is right above naoi. And several words beginning with naoid (Ned) mean nine, and baby. And Dayne (d'aon) + Ned (naoid) = baby, to whom the number nine is special. Nine was a sacred number to the Norse, there are nine worlds, Odin hung on the tree for nine days, Hiemdall has nine mothers, and he is the watchman who blows the horn. "They said it was Donal Noye who'd forged King Robert's warhammer, the one that crushed the life from Rhaegar Targaryen on the Trident." Robert Baratheon is a metaphor for an antlered green man and he kills an eclipsing Black Dragon with a warhammer forged by Donal Noye. And Donal Noye, the smith, in the darkness underneath the Wall, kills the King of the Giants--it is a metaphor for the Long Night. Tobho Mott--in gaelic tob means "surprise" and tobhan means "well, fountain, source, spring" and mota means "mount, mota" and mothar means "grove of trees" and Mot is the god of death. Tobho Mott's shop was described like a cavern, it has weirwood doors, there is a bull/bole inside of it that is a Smith. When Ned enters Tobho shop" "When the armorer opened the door, the blast of hot air that came through made Ned feel as though he were walking into a dragon's mouth. Inside, a forge blazed in each corner, and the air stank of smoke and sulfur." A blast of dragon fire is the surprise hidden in the weirwood cave. In Norse mythology, the tale of Sigorn killing the dragon Fafnir is telling of the Long Night. In the Manual of Mythology by Rasmus Anderson, he says that Fafnir is "the evil power, the cloud, or the darkness which steals the light." A dark dragon that steals the light. The sword Gram ("wrath") was stabbed into a tree by Odin, and only the worthyist warrior could pull it out. Sigmund pulls the sword from the tree. Later Odin causes the sword to break in half while Sigmund is fighting, causing him to die. His son Sigurd is persuaded to kill the dragon Fafnir, and so the dwarves smith him a powerful sword, Sigurd tests the blade on the anvil and the blade shatters, they forge him a second blade, and it also shatters. So he has them reforge the shards of Gram and when he tests it on the anvil it cuts the anvil in half. Sigurd then hides in a pit dug in the ground and waits for the dragon to slither over the hole and stabs him up through the soft underbelly in to the hilt, killing him. So, black dragon steals the light, magic tree sword forged three times, kills the black dragon and brings the light. The anvil might also be important, as I think the black dragon that causes the Long Night is a metallic object and the magic sword can cut through an anvil.
  9. After the fact figured out the key to the puzzle, the page of the gaelic dictionary that links Jon and Thistle and Death, is that page with a word that sounds like Odin--oidean which just means "love" but the words surrounding it mean "death" and "an idea" and "snow" and "an attempt" and "heir" as well as "instruction, counsel" and "frosty, ice" Odin/Bloodraven is dying, and he has an idea, to make an attempt to steal Snow's body and make him his heir. And in the prologue Varamyr tells us about Haggon instructing him in skin-changing, and the chapter closes with everything turning to ice. ETA: In Old Norse far means "evil, bale, terror, fraud" and "sheep" and "dismal, cold" and the phrase far-rymr means "awfully strong" and firra means "to deprive one of a thing" (and Varamyr steals the skins of animals and tries to steal a human's body)
  10. I forgot one of the best parts, in The Marsh King's Daughter, they mention that the Vikings have an alter in a grove of trees on which they make blood sacrifices, and the alter is called "the bloodstone in the groves" and Helga desperately wants to sacrifice the Christian priest on the bloodstone. I have argued before that I think the bloodstone was a chunk of weirwood sap, but now I think the "bloodstone" is just a reference to the weirwood grove itself. (The Bloodstone fell out of the sky) And the Bloodstone Emperor is just a title for "boss greenseer"--he took control of the weirwood network, or it took control of him, and he caused the Long Night. Oh, and in addition to leanna meaning "swamp" liagloghar means "white water lily"--Ned calls Lyanna Lya, so Lyanna really has the Marsh King's Daughter thing going on, who was Marsh water lily. However, Lyanna is an inversion of the story, because instead of healing her father, she caused the death of her father. In addition to that, Jon emerging from the tomb covered in white flour, Jon returns from the dead as a wight/White, he comes back as a White Ghost, In Welsh myth there are ghostly white hounds with red eyes called Cŵn Annwn ("Hounds of Annwn" / "Hounds of the Otherworld"), they are a portent of death. They are the hounds of the king of the Otherworld, Arawn, and Jon is named after Jon Arryn. I was just browsing the gaelic dictionary, and the word oigean means "the great deep" and above that oigeadh means "death" right below that oigheannach means "thistle" and right below that is oighear meaning "snow" and "ice"--so I re-read Varamyr's prologue with the idea that Thistle is a stand-in for Jon (gean) Snow and that Varamyr is a stand-in for Bloodraven (because he is a skin-changer and the One Eye references to Odin) Varamyr is on the verge of death and plotting whose body he could possibly steal and he thinks: "I should have taken one of them when I had the chance. One of the twins, or the big man with the scarred face, or the youth with the red hair. He had been afraid, though. One of the others might have realized what was happening. Then they would have turned on him and killed him." Bloodraven thinking about how he should have taken over one of the Reeds, Hodor, or Bran, but it was too risky. So he turns his sights on Thistle (stand-in for Jon). The time comes and he tries to steal her body, she rejects him, bites off her own tongue (looses her voice), and scratches her eyes out (red eyes). Varamyr then floats around disembodied before he permanently takes over the wolf One Eye. Thistle comes back as a wight. So Bloodraven tries to steal Jon's body, fails, and dies his true death. Jon comes back wight/White, with no voice and red eyes, like Ghost, and he joins the undead army (as their leader). Varamyr's death takes place before Bran and the gang reach Bloodraven's cave, lending support to my belief that Bloodraven is dead when they arrive and his corpse is being animated like a puppet (cloth dragon?) varamyr's name--in Gaelic faire means "to watch with ill-intent" and fairim means "to watch, spy" and fairrge means "sea" and mir means "sea" (from LoTR, Faramir means "to watch the sea") A greenseer is watching, spying, with ill-intent. In Old Norse, vara means "to warn, to forebode" and "fur" and myrr means "bog, marsh" (and myrda means "murder") The Old Norse dictionary gives the phrase varar-skinn as "skin current in trade" and Varamyr Six Skins tries to skin trade someone. And George wrote a werewolf story called The Skin Trade.
  11. Last week I found out that there is a fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen called The Marsh King's Daughter. In the story the Marsh King is a malignant animated tree stump that lives in a bog. Three princesses from Egypt who have skin-changed into swans by wearing swan feather cloaks fly to the bog to get a rare magic healing marsh flower, when one of the girls dives into the bog to get the flower the other two girls destroy her swan feather cloak and abandon her in the bog. She gets taken down under the swamp and the Marsh King "marries" her. She gives birth to a baby girl that then rises up out of the bog as a flower and is retrieved by the stork who witnessed these events (Stork ~ Stark). The stork drops the baby girl off at the home of the Vikings who live near the bog, who soon discover that during the day the baby is a beautiful like her mother, but evil like her father, and at night she switches--she turns into a frog (a bog creature like her father) but very good-natured like her mother. She grows up to be a fierce shield-maiden, with a dangerous blood-lust. The curse is only lifted when she gets someone to take pity on her while she is in the form of a frog (a priest who is likened to Baldur). The princess returns to the bog and saves her mother, who has been in suspended animation under the swamp, and they fly to Egypt with the swan cloaks, and it is revealed that the Marsh King's Daughter herself is the magic marsh flower that will heal her ailing father. Then some crazy time-travel happens, the Marsh King's Daughter goes up into the night sky, and hundreds of years pass and when she returns to Earth everyone she knows is dead, then she turns into a marsh flower, the end. Here are the descriptions of the Marsh King: The Marsh King lives in a lake in the swamp, among the Reeds, and he has miry arms, (Meera Reed) and his children are frogs. He is an evil tree that can move around and captures (eats? rapes? kills?) anyone who sets foot in the bog--parallels the Neck and all the bodies trapped under the bogs. ( And there is Moat = Mot at the Motte wordplay). The Marsh King's Daughter goes up into the sky, and then comes down from the sky, and she does time-travel. The Stork takes a baby from the Marsh King. The Marsh King is the weirwood, under the lake in the bog (in a weirwood cave), the Marsh King (weirwood) impregnates women and produces half-human monsters that get released into the world. Lovecraft seems to have been influenced by this tale, because in The Shadow Over Innsmouth, the Marshes are fish/frog people that serve Cthulhu, and Cthulhu is another metaphor for weirwoods: in The Call of Cthulhu there is a hidden lake in a swamp where a polypous white thing with luminous eyes dwells, it is nightmare itself (mare ~ mire wordplay) that came down from the sky in ancient times (sky spawn), and communicates through dreams, and the First Men worship it. In The Doom that Came to Sarnath, the fish people and their grey stone city Ibb came down from the sky. The Squishers are fish people, and they steal girls to breed with. The fish people from Innsmouth want to breed with humans, and when the fish people get old they go "into the sea" to join Mother Hydra and Father Dagon and become immortal. In the Men of Greywater Station, an interstellar hive-minded tree fungus lives in the swamp that sends nightmares and dominates (mind-rapes) all life on the planet telepathically--the fungus is the Marsh King. In ASoIaF, the Reeds live at Greywater, which is a floating castle (fungus islet?) and they are frog people and green men, and the Reeds were literally Marsh Kings. The Starks conquered the Marsh King and marry the Marsh King's daughter and bring the Marsh King into the family, ever since then the Marsh people have defended the Starks from invasion. It is a metaphor for Starks taking over the weirwood network. Bran Stark weds a weirwood, and he wants to marry Meera Reed, who is essentially the Marsh King's Daughter. Other plots that fit the Marsh King's Daughter template: Craster's Keep is a metaphor for a weirwood hill, (craos means "maw" and "gluttony" and kraz means "crow," his father was a crow, and his mother was from Whitetree), Craster marries his daughters (and the CoTF wed the tree), who then give birth to abominations and monsters, and the sons become White Walkers. Gilly is a flower, the Marsh King's Daughter was a flower (geala means "white, bright, silver, moon"). Gilly and her baby get taken by a Stark (and Sam). Towers are metaphors for weirwood, a lianna is a woody vine (like weirwood roots), leana means "swamp, marsh," leannan means "lover, concubine" and leanb means "baby" In A Song of Lya, Lya gets lured into a cave by a telepathic fungus that eats her. Lyanna supposedly gave birth to Jon is a tower in a bed of blood, the tower was guarded by White Walkers/Kingsguard. The baby is symbolized by a flower, a blue winter rose, akin to the Marsh King's Daughter being a marsh lily. The baby is taken by Ned Stark and Howland Reed. In The Marsh King's Daughter, the mother was imprisoned in the swamp with the Marsh King the whole time, right next to where the daughter grew up. (and Howland married someone named Jyanna, and Ned remembers: "The little crannogman, Howland Reed, had taken her hand from his"--a phrase suggesting marriage) In another parallel to the Jon+Gilly+Sam+baby = Ned+Lyanna+Howland+baby plots. gealla means "promise" or "pledge" (and "hostage")--recalls "promise me, Ned" (and giolla is a variant spelling of gealla) giolla (Howland) means "lad, gillie, horseboy, groom" and giolc means "reed" and giolcad means "a beating" (Howland Reed was a lad who took a beating) Lyanna was good with horses, and giolla means "groom" and "boy who takes care of horses" What other fairy tales has George pulled from?
  12. Found another clue about ragnarok eclipse. In Old Norse the word "ragnarok" comes from rogn or ragna meaning "the gods" and rokr meaning "twilight". I found that rogg means "goat's hair, shaggy" and is right above rogn. and right above rogg is rodull meaning "halo" and "sun" and on the same page rok means "sentence, judgment" and Rognir is a name of Odin--so Rognir+ Rok the "judgment/sentence/fate of Odin" and Odin is the sun that gets eclipsed. In Old Norse rag means "to rove about" and in Gaelic uigean (where "Yuggoth" comes from) "fugitive, lonely wanderer" and Yog means "conjunction of planets" in Hindi. And rafr ("amber") is directly above rag, an and the Black Goat is controlled by an amber-colored gem. (the "stone goat" was one of the signs of the Norse zodiac, so a stone goat in space, and kol-mula means "black mouth / goat's mouth") I think this is where Lovecraft came up withe the idea of the Black Goat causing an endless night his short story The Tree on the Hill (text audio), he is interpreting the phrase "Ragnarok" as a play on words, the "doom of the gods" is the cyclical arrival of the "rogg" the Black Goat / or "rag" the roving black planet. The Black Goat will cause an Endless Night eclipse, and the Black Goat refers to both an alien tree and a black planetary body. Lovecraft was obsessed with black planets and dark stars, and he mentioned wandering black planets in several stories. Here is relevant passage from The Tree on the Hill: Theunis paused while I stared, bewildered. Finally he spoke. “Now, Single, I suppose you can guess how all this links up. There is no need of going deep into the primal lore behind this business, but I may as well tell you that according to the old legends this is the so-called ‘Year of the Black Goat’—when certain horrors from the fathomless Outside are supposed to visit the earth and do infinite harm. We don’t know how they’ll be manifest, but there’s reason to think that strange mirages and hallucinations will be mixed up in the matter. . . . There are entities we never dream of floating under our very noses. Modern science is thrusting back the borderland of the unknown and proving that the mystics were not so far off the track—” The Black Goat took many false shapes, and it is floating under out very noses, unnoticed until it causes an eclipse. In ASoIaF, the Second Moon is described differently by different cultures (The Stranger, the Lion of Night, the Black Goat, the Great Stone Face, etc). Theunis sends the Black Goat back to interstellar space with the gem that controls the Black Goat. (and the Shining Tetrahedron controls/summons the "Haunter of the Dark", and the Bloodstone controls the Lion of Night) ragna means "to use exorcism" and the Black Goat demon is exorcised with the gem and sent back into deep space. Theunis ~ Theon, gryja means "dawn" and in Old Norse daunn (sounds like Dawn) means "to stink" and Theon is called Reek. Thjan / thjon means "bondage, servant, to serve" and Theon was enslaved to Ramsey (a ram is similar to a goat, and ramr means "strong") Here is something, if the Wall is a metaphor for the Second Moon, the Essos counterpart of the Wall is the Five Forts, a gigantic black stone fortress made out of a single piece of fused black stone. Recall that fort means "strong" in Latin, and penta means "five" in Latin, the pentagram is the sigil of the Black Goat. and the Five Forts are a Nightfort, built for the Long Night, they are associated with the Lion of Night: Yi Ti ~ E.T. ~ extraterrestrial. The Five Forts are hulking, godlike, demonic, and associated with the Lion of Night and the Others, and perhaps the Black Goat. And recall that Strangr means "strong" in Old Norse, and fort means "strong." So returning to the Black Goat (rogg) causing the Long Night (ragnarok): Skegg means "shaggy, bearded" and it also means "beak, of a ship" and skeggi means "island shaggies, i.e., islanders" skaga means "to jut out" skygge/skuggi means "a shade, shadow, spectre" or "to block the light" or "cast something into darkness" or "a shady place" skyggja means "to overshadow" skyggdr means "bright, polished" and skyggdir means "a sword" (second moon, mirror shield, and a sword) skukka means "a pot" and skukkr means "a hulk" skogr means "wood" skokkr means "trunk, chest" skrogger means a "monster giant" some of the Gryla (the Gryla was a bugbear to scare children, Lamia) Gryla sounds like "Grail" skolli ("skulking, deceit"), and means "evil one" skölli means "a name of the mock sun, supposed to run like a wolf behind the sun" (Fenrir) sköll means "mockery, loud laughter" sköllottr means "bald" skol comes from "scull" meaning "dish" (also scull = skull, recall that Rahu is a skull that causes eclipses in Hindu mythology) skolla means "to hang over" These have all the building blocks of Lovecraft's Black Goat, which is mythologized as a shaggy black goat, but is really an interstellar boat of some kind (a pot, a hulk, a chest, an Ark, a hollow vessel of some sort), that can be steered to cause an extended eclipse on Earth. This has happened in the past and has been incorporated into ancient mythology. In the Old Tongue, Skagos means "rock" and they ride the Black Goat in Skagos, and Rickon takes his Shaggy Black wolf to Skagos, (In Old Norse skraf means "chat, talk" and skrof means "snow-ice" and George has said that the speech of the Others is called Skroth)
  13. Just browsing the Old Norse dictionary and had a revelation, so recall that the Rangarok eclipse is caused when Fenrir swallows Odin (the sun), and Vidar (the sun's son) uses a giant shoe (skor) to widen Fenrir's jaws and rip its head apart freeing the sun--freeing himself from within Fenrir's jaws (and vidr means both "widen" and "tree"). Well I just found out that they have 3 different versions of the letter "o" and skór means "shoe", but skor means "notch, score, incision" and skör means "rim, edge" It is a play on words, when Vidar ends the eclipse what he really does is that he first takes a notch out of rim of the eclipsing body, then he widens it, until the new sun is revealed.--it is literally just describing how an eclipse ends, and making a mythological story for it (but interpreted another fantastical way, Vidar leaves a score/incision/scar across the moon, or takes a big chuck out of the rim with a tree that is launched at the moon to knock it out of eclipse) So, Jon is Vidar and Bran is Fenrir, and to end the Long Night Eclipse, Jon gets "eaten by the Second Moon"--maybe you could even say he becomes the Night's King, and then he explodes the eclipsing body from within. In Celtic myth, Bran's Cauldron reanimates the dead, and it is destroyed from within, when Bran's half-brother Efnysien gets inside the cauldron and blows it up.
  14. More Jon parallels with Odin's son Vidar who ends the Ragnarok eclipse, and who is essentially Lightbringer. Vidar's mother is Grid, and she "dwells in the wild" in a place between Asgard and Jotunheim. Jotunheim is akin to north of the Wall, where the frost giants live. So Grid is a wildling who lives in the frozen North. Ygritte is a wildling who lives in the frozen North, and Jon is closely associated with her. (Grid knows Thor, and Ygritte knows Tormund) Vidar and Thor are brothers, when Tormund takes control of one of the castles on the Wall he becomes a brother of the Watch, so Jon and Tormund are now brothers. Vidar is "the brother of the gods." and Jon is a Brother of the Nights Watch. Vidar was "surnamed the Silent"--Jon's spirit animal is Ghost and "He never makes a sound. That's why I named him Ghost". And Jon has no surname. Vidar's weapon at Ragnarok is an iron shoe (jarn skor--"jarn" sounds like "Jon") which he uses to pry Fenrir's jaws open. Mel says to Jon: "A vow sworn to a tree has no more power than one sworn to your shoes" Vidr means "tree" and Vidar's weapon is a shoe. And bachall means "shoe" and "staff" and Jon is Bakkalon, and a tree is a kind of staff. Vidar's destiny is to avenge his father's death, "He avenges his father in the final catastrophe, in Ragnarok", and Jon wants to avenge Ned's death. "But it made no matter, so long as he lived long enough to take his place by his brother's side and help avenge his father." After Ragnarok Vidar and Vale take over Odin's job: "There dwell Vidar and Vale in the gods' holy seats, When the fire of Surt is slaked." And there is foreshadowing of a Jon and Val romance. "Vidar is, then, imperishable and incorruptible nature represented as an immense indestructible forest, with the iron trunks of the trees rearing their dense and lofty tops towards the clouds." Iron tree trunks that are indestructible rearing towards the sky--weirwood launch. And Vidar is a tree that ends an eclipse at the End of Days. (all quotes from Norse Mythology, by Rasmus Anderson)
  15. Broken Dome of the Sky: Rhoynar Edition One of the alternate spelling of rowan is "royne" (and the rowan tree is the mountain ash / witchwood tree) and Chroyane on the Rhoyne is haunted by the Shrouded Lord, and they say that Garin the Great is the Shrouded Lord. In gaelic, garran means "grove of trees" garrya "garth, garden, enclosure" and gar means "great" The Shrouded Lord is a great white stone giant under the sea, reaching up with a great stone fist. The Shrouded Lord was a stone statue that came to life--like the weirwood stone giants waking up. And Tyrion's journey through Chroyane is telling us about weirwood hills and the events of the Long Night. The Bridge of Dream leads to a symbolic weirwood hill (and you reach the weirwood through dreams), guarded by mists (White Walkers are mists), and a poisonous miasma that spreads a grey death (the stone men are compared to moths), and Mother Rhoyne protects her children. And there are several mentions of broken spires and broken domes, and huge tree roots going through the broken dome (in the sky). Stone Men fall from the broken bridge in the sky, and Griff's sword makes sparks when his chops off one of their arms (flaming sword + stone giant) The third stone man is all black and grey and described as a castle wall and Tyrion jumps over Young Griff to thrust a flaming torch into the black stone face. And Tyrion brings down the black stone giant. (one of names of the Last Hero is Yin Tar ~ Tar Yin ~Tyrion) So, the Rhoyne is a metaphor for the weirwood network, that can move backwards and forwards in river of time, like Bloodraven tells Bran. In the middle of the Rhoyne Tyrion sees what he thinks is a wooded island with a hill, but it is really a wooden keep with broken spears/spires, and towers that thrust blindly upward. Around the island there is a stone giant under the water reaching up out of the water, the stone fist is a metaphor for a weirwood tree, which are themselves stone giants, and Tyrion sees another broken spire and an ancient tree that is torn from the ground, and upended, and its huge roots go through the roof of the broken dome (of the sky)/ broken dome (in the sky). If you look up "spire" in the OED the first several definitions describe trees, e.g., "the tapering top of a tree; the main portion that shoots up above the branches" The phrases "broken dome" and "headless" are almost synonymous, the Second Moon has a broken dome, and it is personified by the headless Robert Strong / the undead Mountain that Rides. Rhoyne and Chroyane: Chroyane contains the word "Rhoyne" so all the rowan tree / river of time stuff applies to Chroyane In gaelic cron means "time"; croinn means "tree"; crine/crion means "old, witherered, decayed, wizened" but also means "blast"; and crionach "decayed wood, withered tree, rotten"; crionachadh means "blasting or scorching with heat"; croinnt means "grey"; croine means "blackness"; croinreach means "swarthy one, name of a river"; cruan means "blood-red color"; several words beginning with cruinn mean "assembly, gathering, hoard" which are synonyms for "moot"; cruinneail means "act of meeting" (two rivers meet at Chroyane), Chroyane starts with "cro" which means "death, eye, and prison" crineam means "to fall" --and stone men fall off the bridge cruinneach means "dew, mist, fog"; cruinne mean "round, circular, globe, earth"; creanna means "trade, merchant, seafaring" And Chroyane is an old decayed grey place that was blasted by dragon fire, and is blanketed with fog. On the same page as several "cruinn" words, cruit /cruiteanna means "hunchback, little hill" and cruiteachan means "hunchback, dwarf" and cruitin means "hunchback, kingfisher bird" The turtles are hunchbacks, turt means "dwarf" and turtair means "turtle" Tyrion is a dwarf and he is Hugor of the Hill (hugor means "hill" in german, and hugr means "mind" in Old Norse) , and they meet the Kingfisher boat. The Old Man of the River gigantic turtle with spikes on its back is a reference to the kraken, which was described as an island with trees on its back. A living island with tree spikes on its back is a good description of the Isle of Faces. Chroyane is called "forlorn" and in The Dying of the Light one of the Festival cities on Worlorn is called Kryne-Lamiya Under Kryne-Lamiya there is a Darkling dreamer that is a brain hooked up to machines playing a song forever. The Palace of Love/ Palace of Sorrow is a reference to the Joyous Gard / Dolorous Gard castle that belonged to Brandin of the Isles.
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