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  1. By Odin's Beard

    The Stranger has three heads?

    Joffrey "his golden curls shining in the sun like a crown." His face turns black and purple when he is poisoned: "The boy's face turned black as a plum." . . . "his face turning as black as a Dornish plum." A golden-crowned solar character, with a blackened face, that sounds like an eclipse. The phrase "the night King Joffrey died" is repeated three times in Brienne I in Feast. And that is the only time the phrase "night king" appears in the books. I think the Night King's Crown is the corona of a solar eclipse, and the Night King will be the young king who causes the Long Night. What turned the solar character's face black? The Strangler, which is one letter away from The Stranger. The Stranger turns the sun black. Tell me more. I found something interesting in the thread you linked, some of Donal Noye's possessions: "six pennies and a copper star, a niello brooch with a broken clasp" I had to look up niello, it is a black metallic material used in making jewelry. I think this is a representation of the solar system--six pennies = six planets, a copper star = the sun, and a niello brooch (black metallic item) = the Stranger, 6 + 1 = 7, This fits into my theory that in the Faith of the Seven, the 7 are the planets, and the Stranger is a mysterious black object with no regular orbit that is a wanderer from far places "the face was a black oval, a shadow with stars for eyes." The Stranger is LmL's second moon, it was not destroyed, it is still hanging around and it will cause the Long Night again. Another way to phrase "the night king" is "the lion of night" and King Joffrey is a lion--a golden lion turns into a black lion. In the Yi-tish legends, the sun turned her back on the world and The Lion of Night came forth in all his wroth to punish mankind, and this event was accompanied by a demon army invading. Viserys also gets the golden crown and blackened face when he eclipses a solar character Drogo. The Khalasar is a metaphor for the heavens, Drogo is the sun, Dany the moon, the bloodriders are the planets, the rest of the khalasar are the stars, Viserys is told that his place is in the back of the khalasar far from the sun, and in the back of the feast hall in the shadows, he refuses his assigned place, drunkenly lurches towards the sun (and he is the only one with a sword/comet), usurps his sister (the moon) and gets his golden crown and is killed. (viser means "to shade,") Two instances of the a prince/young king getting the night king's crown of eclipse, who will be the third and final person to wear it?
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    The Lucifer Comet

    I thought it was clear that I was building on his theory, given that I used the phrase "lucifer means lightbringer" in my opening sentence, and I used the phrase "I believe the theory" and not "I have a theory." I thought about inserting an @LmL but since he doesn't come here anymore I decided it didn't matter. I have been thinking a lot about you and the idea of being inside the weirwood network being "under the sea." On page 103 of the NY Times Guide to Halley's Comet they compare Halley's comet to a sea creature lost in space: I have argued that the weirwood is a kind of polyp, like the hydra, that it is a hive-minded creature that launches itself into space to establish colonies on other planets. (see also the Medusa, the hive-minded telepathic creature from Sturgeon's The Cosmic Rape) And George's Guardians the hive-minded mudpots have "green dreams" and being clams they are literally "beneath the seas." And in Sagan's Comet, in chapter 10 there are a bunch of pictures of comets that look like starfish or corals, And in Vance's Dragon Masters, the red star with an eccentric orbit that occasionally comes close to Aerlith is called Coralyne. So with all this in mind, yesterday I re-listened to The Shadow over Innsmouth for the umpeenth time, and this line caught my attention: When the fish-frog/human hybrid people get old they go into the sea to rejoin mother Hydra/Dagon/Cthulhu, where they become immortal--they are even called "children." The fish people require regular human sacrifices be dropped into the sea, and if the sacrifices stop, then the fish people come out of the sea and kill humans. In ASOIAF, the CoTF wear scales of woven leaves and one of them is named Scales by Bran--Old Nan says they can swim like fish, and Luwin says greenseers can control fish ("Even fish." he says). The crannogmen are CoTF/human hybrids and they are frogs, and can breathe mud, they also wear scales. The green men guard/serve the weirwoods. Cthulhu/Mother Hydra is the weirwood, who is under the sea dreaming, the fish-frog/CoTF are its servitors, and when they upload to the network they go under the sea and become immortal. And in the World Book they point out that the Shrykes of Essos who are believed to be lizard-people might be people that wear lizard skins: So, this plants the idea that mythical fish people monsters could be beings that merely wear scales of some kind. (And Shrikes are birds that impale prey upon trees)
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    The Lucifer Comet

    I have another book on comets that I have just started to read that I just happened to find at a used book store, it is The New York Times Guide to the Return of Halley's Comet (1985) Apparently the astronomer Johannes Kepler believed comets were created "from the conjunction of the planets in one of the signs of the zodiac" (pg 52, another source for this quote ) and this is what I theorized the legend of the three forgings of Lightbringer story was about. (as well as Galladon wielding the Just Maid three times) Also it turns out many early astronomers believed comets traveled in straight lines and that they were launched out of planets: Kepler believed comets traveled in straight lines. (pg21) Galileo believed comets were "formed from material exhaled from the Earth" and that they traveled in a straight line. (source) Tycho Brahe: "Comets, he said, traveled roughly in a straight line." (pg 21) In Sagan's Comet, talking about Tycho disproving Aristotle's view that comets were merely an atmospheric phenomenon he says "Tycho liberated comets . . . and allowed them to soar into space." (pg 32) Astronomer Johannes Hevelius "reaffirmed the straight-line theory . . . Hevelius explained that comets were disk-shaped bodies flung out of planets." (pg 21) Cassini believed that comets were "generated by chance accumulation of exhalations furnished by the planets and the stars" (source) he acknowledged that it appears that comets move in a straight line, but that is only because we see a short segment of their path. (source) And I already mention Aristotle's belief that comets were some kind of vapor that rises out of the Earth and bursts into flame, and this was the dominant view for about 2,000 years. More on the subject of comets being launched out of planets, on page 99-100: Then they discuss the soviet astronomer Vsekhsviatsky's theory that comets are thrown out from Jupiter's four inner moons. (pg 102), and another Russian guy Velikovsky who had the same idea. I also found this English astronomer Richard Proctor, who theorized in 1873 in Cornhill Magazine (pg 51): Same guy pushing his theory in other magazines: (source) (source) So, it turns out that the idea of a planet launching a comet was not fringe at all, it was believed by some of the smartest people in history, and several unconnected people came up with the same idea in different centuries. Weird. The idea came to me in a dream last year, and I thought it was ground-breaking (pun intended). In that dream, there was a weirwood grove on a very high hill above the clouds (like the High Heart), and it just blasted off into space with no warning--and I woke up with a start. The weirwoods had been building up pressure below ground, and that was what formed the very high hill, the hill also makes it easier to reach escape velocity. On the subject of comets causing massive catastrophes: Halley "anticipated modern thinking that some of the Earth's most devastating catastrophes may have been caused by too-close encounters with extraterrestrial bodies. Halley suggested, for example, that the Caspian Sea was gouged out by a comet impacting the Earth at the time of the Biblical Flood. A comet coming too close to Earth or hitting Earth, he said, might have been the disrupting force causing the Flood." (pg 29) Newton also believed a comet caused Noah's Flood (source), Newton's protege and close colleague, William Whiston, theorized that a large comet caused the Flood (same source) This hypothesis has come back around, there is some evidence that an asteroid or comet impacted the polar ice sheets some 12,800 years ago causing a global cataclysm, including massive flooding of coastal civilizations (called the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis, source, source) And before I knew of this theory, I argued that ASOIAF takes place on antediluvian Earth 12,000-14,000 years ago, based on the blue star Vega being the North Star and the Ice Age animals (mammoths, dire wolves, woolly rhino, aurochs, tasmanian tiger, etc), and that the comet will cause (or be contemporaneous with) a massive flood that will destroy human civilization.
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    The Lucifer Comet

    The Oort Cloud is a diffuse orbiting field of trillions of ice balls some 20,000-50,000AU from the sun, and every so often a gravitational disturbance from a nearby star will send one into the inner solar system, where the sun warms it and the ice is stripped away by the solar wind and develops a tail of ice vapor. If they get caught by the gravity of the gas giants they become short period comets that go around the sun then out to about Jupiter and then back to the sun taking decades, or if not they are long-period comets that go around the sun then far out of the solar system, then back to the sun, sometimes taking millions of years. I am proposing the Red Comet is neither of these--it is not a normal comet, it is more akin to a rocket being shot from point A to point B in a straight line, rather than an ice ball that is in orbit around a star or planet. I theorized this long before even discovering the book The Lucifer Comet, and it just so happens that in that book the Lucifer Comet is deliberately shot off of Planet A towards Planet B, for the express purpose of transporting a god from one place to another, in almost the exact way that I hypothesized, even sharing the same name. In my opinion, that is pretty good confirmation. (and in Niven's Lucifer's Hammer, an asteroid destroys human civilization) (and again, George's volcryn were darkly telepathic space-faring creatures that telekinetically launched themselves from some spot in the center of the galaxy out in all directions to colonize space) In Carl Sagan's book Comet, he devotes several chapter to the subject of comets hitting the Earth and causing mass extinction events. And even about a mythological Red Comet (pg 178) and an apocalyptic dark sun that sends comets (pg 304) that brings a Long Night/nuclear winter (see my post on the Dark Sister and the Red Comet) He mentions on page 51 that Edmund Halley believed that the Biblical Flood was caused by a comet passing too near Earth causing a massive tidal wave, and Halley believed that comets must occasionally hit the Earth, with catastrophic consequences. And in several places he mentions that early astronomers believed comets were coming from Jupiter: page 94: "Some early astronomers thought this meant that Jupiter was the source of the comets, that they were somehow spat out, disgorged, from the inside of the largest planet." And in one of Sagan's other books, Broca's Brain, he discussed comets coming from Jupiter and the pseudo-scientist Vsekhsviatsky: page 114: "Laplace and other early astronomers hypothesized that Jupiter was the source of such comets . . . Vsekhsviatsky, who seemed to believe that the moons of Jupiter eject comets out of giant volcanoes." On pg 23 of Comet, he mentions the Aristotelian view of comets was that they were exhalations of gas from inside the Earth, ejected from the planet and then catching fire in the atmosphere. So instead of comets coming from volcanoes on Jupiter, George has them coming from volcanoes on Mars. In 1973, the Comet Kohoutek was supposed to be a major event, and I have a pseudo-science book about it called Comet Kohoutek and the cover shows a comet passing by a total solar eclipse, because the comet was supposed to swing by around Christmas during a solar eclipse. Almost the exact same image in Sagan's Comet, on pg 245
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    Varys the Sorcerer

    Here's another one: Varys hears the voice of a god/demon/trickster from a blue flame, that voice still speaks to him in his dreams. Mel says that dreams are the whisperings of the Great Other, "And she feared to dream. Sleep is a little death, dreams the whisperings of the Other, who would drag us all into his eternal night." So, I think it is the Great Other that visits Varys in his dreams.--he is the Master of Whisperers. Bran also gets visits from the Great Other in his dreams, in the form of a 3 eyed crow that whispers to him. (and Mel suggests that Bran might be the Great Other or at least his champion) Bran means crow in Welsh, and varis means "hooded crow" in Finnish and Varys is associated with "little birds" and secret intel. We learn in one of Bran's Dance chapters that all the ravens have CoTF spirits in them, capable of spying on human affairs--this could be one of the ways Varys gets his intel. (Euron had flying dreams also, and Uran means crow in Welsh, Jojen had 3 eyed crow dreams and joj means crow). When Bran appears to Jon in a dream he is a whispering weirwood. Varys claims to love the children, but abducts, tortures, and kills children by the dozens. He claims to hate magic but multiple people describe him as a sorcerer. He claims to serve the realm, but is actively trying to destroy it.
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    The Lucifer Comet

    A few weeks ago I googled the phrase "lucifer comet" because I believe the theory that the sword Lightbringer is a Red Comet and the word Lucifer means "Lightbringer," and found this book called "The Lucifer Comet" and I just finished reading it, and sorry in advance for this summary being rather incoherent, the plot of this story is all over the place. It is sci-fi mixed with mythology, mixed with time-travel. The Lucifer Comet itself is a huge ball of ice with two gods trapped inside of it, traveling in a straight line towards Earth at a very high speed (a comet which is not in orbit around a sun, but being shot from one location to another, and a large portion of the book is devoted to back-tracing the path of the comet to find the planet from which it was launched). Later we learn that a Promethean god named Quarfar launched it off the surface of the planet Dora by building up pressure below a polar ice sheet and blasting a chunk of ice off of the planet and hitting Quarfar (Prometheus) and his brother Narfar (Satan) and embedding them in the "space-time ice comet" (Quarfar uses his magical spear to facilitate this launching). Narfar is an orange-furred bat-winged Neanderthal-looking creature, whereas Quarfar looks like a normal human, but they are brothers and their home planet is Mars and they are the last of their race. Quarfar and Narfar like to bio-engineer planets, Quarfar likes to build technological societies, and Narfar likes animals and primitive human societies that do not use fire. Narfar also goes by the name Narfareon. They can both genetically engineer humans. Narfar had established a primitive society on a planet called Dora, but his brother Quarfar learned of it and came to Dora to change the civilization to a technological one. Narfar is sort of a mentally retarded child god, and he resolved to fight Quarfar over the right to rule over Dora and keep it as his personal fiefdom. Quarfar shows up and launches the comet trapping them both in the comet for reasons that are never explained. The comet is discovered 50,000 years later by the main character is Barathra Jeroboam Methuen who is a comet wrangler, who collects comets and takes them to Earth to use the water they contain. (Methuen = Pro-metheus?) He brings the Lucifer Comet to Earth, and they defrost the gods, and try to speak to them. Narfar escapes and disappears, but they are able to communicate with Quarfar with the help of a 17 year old girl named Dorita who can read minds, and travel through time, (she is obsessed with doing things people tell her not to do, she is Pandora). She learns that Quarfar and Narfar established civilizations on Earth 60,000 years ago, Narfar a Neanderthal one, and Quarfar a Cro-Magnon one. The Cro-Magnon civ wiped out the neanderthal civ, and Quarfar banished Narfar from Earth and to the planet Dora--he launched Narfar off the planet. Quarfar remained on Earth in spirit form and his spirit took over human bodies from time to time to guide human civilization. The mythological figures of Satan and Prometheus were based on real god-beings that lived on Erth in pre-history. There is a lot of talk about constellations, and that is how the humans discover the location of planet Dora, because it is located in a particular constellation that is shaped like Narfar. Methuen keeps having prophetic dreams about a catastrophic attack on human civilization that involves an unidentified space object hitting human colonies at a very high speed--comet-like. Methuen falls in love with Dorita. Quarfar's body dies. Narfar finds Dorita and they hatch a plan to return to the planet Dora via a space-time tunnel that Quarfar established that links Earth to Dora. They return to Dora and find that Narfar's civilization has completely collapsed and hardly a trace of it remains (he and Quarfar were stuck in the comet for 50,000 years, and his people could not survive without his oversight). So, Dorita and Narfar go back in time 50,000 years to just after the comet was launched. Narfar resumes rule over his people and he marries Dorita. Quarfar had told her that there was a box in arctic polar region that she should not open. So of course she demands that Narfar take her there. She finds that Narfar has removed all of the intelligent humanoids on Dora from his civilization and imprisoned them in a crater in the arctic, along with hive-minded spiders that are big enough for a human to ride them. Dorita frees these humans and their spiders. (this all happens 50,000 years in the past) In the current time, Methuen leads an expedition to Dora to rescue Dorita and learn about Dorian civilization. When they get there they find a deserted planet. Due to Dorita going back in time and altering the past, time paradoxes begin manifesting, and several days later Narfar's neanderthal civilization appears overnight. The author does a time-travel style that I have never seen before: lets say we have Person A and Person B in the current time, Person A goes back in time and waits a week then changes the timeline, the changes in the timeline only manifest to Person B after that week has elapsed--suddenly things around you can change, and in this story a hundred days after Methuen lands on Dora an advanced world-spanning technological civilization appears overnight, due to Dorita freeing the intelligent humans 50,000 years in the past. Dorita dies in the polar north, Narfar is frozen in ice forever. It turns out Quarfar's spirit was inside Dorita and that was what was compelling her to free the humans. So, the modern civ on Dora has intelligent telepathic hive-minded spiders coexisting in society with humans. The spiders are a collective consciousness, and they retain the memories of their people, when a spider eats another spider they absorb all of their knowledge and memories, and the Queen of the spiders holds all of their collected memories, the new Queen is called Varji. The spider queen is capable of time travel because the first spider queen Narsua ate a human that was hosting Quarfar's spirit. Anyway, the book ends with the spider queen letting Methuen's expedition return to Earth, but it ends before they actually leave, and there is no follow up to Methuen's apocalyptic prophecy dreams, so we don't know what happens with that. It ends with Methuen pondering which one of the gods is the mythological Satan. There are hints in the story that Dorita became the planet/god of Dora and that maybe it had been named after her all along, because the planet is named Dora and she is Dorita which would mean "little Dora"--but this idea gets dropped. Overall, I would give the book an A for interesting ideas, but a C- for turning those ideas into a coherent story. ------------------------ So what does this have to do with ASOIAF? I have been arguing for a while that the weirwood network has two gods trapped inside of it, who are engaged in a battle for control over the network. This is the struggle between R'hllor vs the Great Other: R'hllor is fire and progress and technology and consumption, and the Great Other is cold and unchanging adherence to and preservation of the old ways. And here we have two gods trapped within a Lucifer Ice Comet. A comet named Lightbringer, with gods trapped inside of it, gods who are from Mars, and have been launching themselves from one planet to another. And I have argued that the Red Comet originated from Mars, from a weirwood eruption that launched a grove of weirwood trees into space. And here we have a Promethean god using a magical wooden spear to manipulate volcanic forces to launch an ice comet into space. One of the gods is a god of progress and technology, and the other is a god of stasis and primitive life--and they are in conflict forever. One of the gods is named Narfareon--in ASOIAF Neferion had something to do with the Long Night. (Recall also, that Odin had a magical spear called Gungnir ("trembling, shaking") that never missed its target when thrown, and Bloodraven and Beric are both essentially Odin characters that sit weirwood thrones) It is explicitly addressed several times that the planet Dora has no axial tilt, and therefore no seasons, the poles are always frozen and the equatorial region is always summer. In ASOIAF I think the axial tilt is changing, that that is what is messing up the seasons. On Dora in the arctic, there are giant spiders that humanoids ride. These humans are imprisoned in the polar north--inside of a smooth-walled crater described as a wall--, and a god inhabiting a human's body tricks her into releasing them and when they are released they completely change the civilization on the planet--that is, they completely wipe out the existing civilization (she opens Pandora's box). The spiders are hive-minded, and one is named Varji. In ASOIAF, Varys is the spider, and I have been arguing that he is working with the Great Other (that is the voice he hears every night in his dreams) and getting info from the weirwood network from his child sacrifices. When the new spider queen takes over she devours the old spider queen and absorbs her knowledge--"the new god devours the corpse of the old" I have argued that in the future Bran's soul will jump out of his body and become a ghost in the weirwood, and has traveled back in time to occupy the bodies of people in the past to steer the course of events--that he was Peremore who founded the Citadel, and he was Bran the Builder, etc. And in Lucifer Comet, Quarfar's spirit has occupied the bodies of select individuals in the past to steer the development of human society. Quarfar has time-travel abilities also. There are a few name similarities, I already mentioned Narfareon / Neferion, and Varji / Varys, and the main character's name Barathra / Baratheon, and the alien planet is Dora/ Dorian / Doran (and I have argued that Doran Martell is the weirwood network). When Narfar takes Dorita to the arctic they stop to look at a glacier that looks like the face of an "ice god." When Dorita sees the craters in the Arctic: "she strongly suspected that a volcanic eruption beneath the ice field might well have been the origin of the Comet Gladys which had brought Quarfar and Narfar to Erth." "it seemed to be a crater . . . Dorita had queried: What that? --Narfar, curt: That where comet start. Dorita: Comet that bring you to Erth? It blow off here? Surely affirmative. I confirmed the Quarfar story, increasing her respect for Quarfar, who had with his spear evoked vulcanism violent enough to fire a huge chunk of ice into the air at the forty thousand kilometers per hour velocity necessary to clear Dorita's gravitational field." The crater with the humans and spiders is nearby that launch crater, and it is hinted that it was a much more massive launch event, but this idea is never revisited. The mentions of volcanic activity launching a comet has made me start to think that the Valyrian civilization may have been destroyed by their 14 weirwood groves exploding into space at the same time--and that Valyrian steel is a metaphor for a weirwood comet being forged. And that would explain why magic diminished on Earth after the Doom--a large population of weirwoods departed the planet all at once. In the Lucifer Comet they discover the source of the comet (the planet Dora) by careful study of constellations, in ASOIAF my theory that Mars was the source of the Red Comet and mythical Lightbringer Comet/sword was based on the analysis of the Three Forgings legend as mythology--and that the three tempering attempts: into water, into a lion's heart, and into wife's heart were references to constellations of the zodiac that comets where launched from, Aquarius, Leo, and Virgo. And that something passing through these constellations was making "swords"--Mars is the Smith in ASOIAF, and the Smith makes swords, Azor Ahai was a swordsmith. The Smith being in the Moonmaid was associated with taking women as wives, and Mars takes Virgo as his wife. In the Lucifer Comet, the comet is launched directly at Earth (Erth), and in ASOIAF, I think the Long Night eclipse was ended by the Lightbringer Comet being launched directly at Earth to knock the second moon out of eclipse formation. So, this book seems to support my theory that the Red Comet is/was a weirwood that contains "gods" and was deliberately launched from Mars to colonize another planet. (similar to George's volcryn from Nightfliers) It also lends support to my theory that the weirwood network contains the spirits of two gods that are at odds with one another, and they struggle for dominance within the network--one god that loves technology, and one god that hates it, and they use humans as pawns and playthings in their game. The story ends with humans freeing themselves from the influence of these gods--one god is eaten, and the other is frozen in ice for eternity.
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    Who is Quaithe?

    In British heraldry Quatherine means a "red ship in full sail"--Quaithe's mask is red wood, and her mask is made of starlight, and her voice is the whisperings of stars. Quaithe is the red comet. The comet is shierak qiya, the Bleeding Star. Sierra Seastar (seastar = starfish = asteroid) --star seastar/asteroid? ETA looked up Dothraki phrases, shierak means star. I just rewatched the Fifth Element, and in that there is a genetically engineered female who defeats a black planet (that was created by an eclipse) by shooting a beam of light off the surface of the Earth. In George's other stories people with Valyrian looks are genetically engineered (Glass Flower and Star Lady), Dany's thinks, "If I flew high enough, I could even see the Seven Kingdoms, and reach up and touch the comet. " In one of her Quaithe visions: "She dreamed. All her cares fell away from her, and all her pains as well, and she seemed to float upward into the sky. She was flying once again, spinning, laughing, dancing, as the stars wheeled around her and whispered secrets in her ear." I am starting to think Dany is going to warg a comet and destroy a black planet. "to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow." Mirri tells Dany she will be with Drogo again when the sun rises in the west, which I think refers to a weirwood comet launching in the West.
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    Did the Red Comet _____ ?

    Jon says "he could find the seven wanderers sacred to the Faith" --no-one would say they could "find the moon" --so I think the seven are planets not including the sun or moon. People used to think the appearance of Venus in the morning and in the evening were two separate planets. It is mentioned in the Audubon manual to the Night Sky, that I am almost certain George used to write his astronomy sections. "Because of its appearances at sunrise and sunset, the ancient Greeks thought it was two different planets, and gave them different names: Phosphorus (Light-bringer) the morning star, and Hesperus (Latin, Vesper) the evening star." About Saturn being a female Crone--I think George wanted a triple aspect female deity, so there had to be three females in the seven. Bonus trivia, in Hindu astronomy, Saturn is Shani ("slow") who rides a crow, and in ASOIAF the crone's lantern is the constellation Corvus, the crow. And the Crone let the first raven in through the door of death. I think there is a play on words between crone/corone. (also the myth of the constellation Corvus involves a woman name Coronis) And in the Sworn Sword, the constellations King's Crown and Crone's Lantern are listed together, and I think the King's Crown is the constellation Corona Borealis--so crone/corone/corona-- and Corona Borealis and Corvus are adjacent entries in the Audubon manual.
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    Did the Red Comet _____ ?

    " the red wanderer that septons preached was sacred to their Smith up here was called the Thief. " I think the warrior is Mercury because he/she is quick. Jupiter is the Father, Saturn (Cronos) is the Crone--because she is slow. Venus morningstar is the Maiden, Venus Evenstar is the Mother, and the black planet is the Stranger.
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    The three headed dragon in Persian mythology is called Azhi Dahak. azi means "serpent or dragon", ahi means "snake". In Hindu mythology Asuras are described as powerful superhuman demigods. The malevolent Asuras are led by Vritra, also called Ahi (or Azhi), Ahi appears as a dragon blocking the course of the rivers and is heroically slain by Indra (the Storm God). Asura Ahi = Azor Ahai, and Azhi = Asshai = dragon, (In Zoroastrianism Azhi Dahak the three-headed dragon wanted to depopulate the world) Ahi blocks rivers, and the Long Night caused the Rhoyne to dwindle and disappear. Azor Ahai is a "dragon," Asshai is named after him. A dragon that causes the Long Night and is a shadow over Asshai--also in the sci-fi book Mutineer's Moon, Dahak is the name of a moon sized spaceship that orbits Earth disguised as our moon, and it's sigil is a three-headed dragon. In ASOIAF black dragons block out the sun.
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    I am a carpenter and today I was using a nail-puller called a cat's paw--and I realized that it is a type of crow--as one of the meanings of crow is a pry bar. What if the 3 eyed crow was the trickster who got Joff to send the cat's paw in order to pry Cat away from Bran and out of Winterfell so that Bran could escape north? (the Star Trek episode Catspaw is about using magic and illusion to deceive) Last month I discovered that Galladon / gaileadán means "boiler" in gaelic and that sent me down a rabbit hole investigating every mention of kettles, pots, tubs, etc. and people whose names refer to those objects because I think they are clues about the "second moon" that causes the Long Night eclipse (because it is a hollow metallic "moon"--the greek word for boiler/cauldron is "levitas"--with the implication that the "cauldron" levitates) In gaelic, lothar means "cauldron" and bruinne means "judgment, doom" and bruin means "cauldron, kettle" in other languages brunn means "dark, brown"--a dark cauldron of doom Lothor Brune is associated with Fossaway, fass means "barrel, keg, vat" in german, and in english fossa means " A long, narrow, shallow depression on the body of an extraterrestrial body, such as a planet or moon "--so apples are associated with extraterrestrial bodies. In Slavic mythology the sky god Perun/Perkune possesses the golden apples which are "a talisman of ultimate destruction" which he throws up into the sky and they shoot lighting at people. Cerwyn means "vat, large tub" in welsh and come from the latin carina (keel of a ship)--and he was another mythological figure who fights the dragon Urrax, (possible name meanings: aurochs means bull, auric means gold--Cerwyn killed the sun?, furax means thief, urraca means magpie), He has a Mirror Shield so no-one sees him approach--like an all black moon that emerges out of the night? The Mirror Shield is also a reference to Perseus slaying Medusa (and I have been saying that the weirwood is a kind of Medusa). Cerwyn is "haunted by the ghosts of all the knights he'd killed" --Others are ghostly knights, and Cerwyn is followed by them? He is almost always mentioned along with Symeon Star Eyes who is an Other with blue star eyes. Maybe the legends have it backwards and the dragon killed Cerwyn with a spear from the (God's) Eye?. In the Irish tale of Bran the Blessed, he is described as a giant floating mountain, and he has a cauldron that can reanimate the dead. And when Bran and his army of giants invade there is a battle where almost everyone dies. The gaelic word abhran means "cauldron" and brannra means "a pot" and catillus means "small bowl" in latin, and in germanic katilaz mean "kettle"--if Bran is a cauldron/pot it makes sense that his mother is a kettle of some sort also. Bran's cauldron that brings back the dead is the Lion of Night/"second moon" that brings back the Others. Bran the Blessed gets decapitated but remains alive--he is a giant floating head. In the Feast prologue they are at the Quill and Tankard, and Alleras the sand snake shoots apples out of the air in the dark with goldenheart red feathered arrows, in real life ancient astronomy comets are sometimes depicted as feathers. A quill is a feather, and a tankard is a hollow metal vessel. Alleras shooting the apples out the air before the dawn is a metaphor for the weirwoods ending the Long Night by shooting the second moon out of eclipse. Brienne's father is Selwyn--which is close to Cerwyn and he is the Evenstar and Lord of Evenfall--the first star of the night and the lord of Nightfall, and their sigil maybe depicts an eclipse, and she had a brother Galladon who drowned. Brienne is the moon, a huge woman with a messed up moon face, The word "Tarth" is pretty close to "Earth", and it is a Sapphire Isle--Earth is a pale blue dot. She had two sisters Arianne and Alysane,, Arion was the name of a planet in the Way of Cross and Dragon, and Arianrhod is the name of the constellation the Northern Crown and it means "silver circle" and alysan means to "detach, remove" In gaelic "brothaire" means "cauldron of soup"--and Nimble Dick (in latin levitas means "nimble" and a penis is a sword) mentions the Brothers Brune (cauldron cauldron, or cauldron of doom), after Lucifer Hardy (lucifer means lightbringer, the lightbringer comet mentioned along with the cauldron of doom, Hardy is an anagram of Hydra, and Nimble Dick mentions folk hero Clarence Crabb who was a giant who uprooted trees and threw them (he launched trees and crabs are undersea equivalents of crows), and Brienne mentions Galladon of Morne--gaileadan means "boiler" and mornan means "a small tub")) Dick says "I would have used the bloody sword"--he pretty much tells us that the Just Maid was a magic bloody sword--it was the red comet. This could have implications for the black brothers of the Night's Watch, there is a lot of kettle soup talk at the wall, and Jon gets elected Lord Crow by Mormont's raven flying out of a huge black kettle. When the raven says "corn" it means death, and the raven says "corn? kettle, kettle, kettle" In the weasel soup incident, Arya, Jaqen, Rorge and Biter take steal soup kettles, kill the guards and release the Northmen from imprisonment--who immediately start killing people. The black kettle releases the Northmen--the Lion of Night releases the Others. ("rorge and biter" is an anagram of "orbiter danger" and "jachin hagar" roughly translates to "he will establish the stranger") Gregor is called a kettle by Tyrion, "the Mountain That Rides was a kettle of a different color." In Bran's coma dream he is a hollow stone giant that eclipses the sun, and "Ser Gregor Clegane's face might have been hewn from rock." and in the fight between Oberyn and Gregor, Gregor eclipses the sun and Oberyn uses the mirror shield trick--and it was the Red Viper who impaled the Stone Giant on a leafy ash spear and pinned him to the Earth with it. A floating mountain that is a kettle, that is a hollow stone giant that eclipses the sun and is brought down by a leafy wooden spear. (egregore means "watcher" and they were supernatural beings from the Book of Enoch that fathered the Nephilim.) The Kettleblacks all have names that start with "os"--a prefix meaning "bone" cleagainne means "skull" --Cersei is a lion who has surrounded her self with black kettles and skulls and bones, and she is jealous dark sister to Jaime's solar character. In gaelic neasa means "earthenware vessel" (nissa nissa is associated with the moon) Mad Danelle Lothston had black bats that abducted children on moonless nights to put in her cookpot. In The Stone City there is a spaceship called the Corey Dark, coire means "cauldron" in gaelic. coirean means "little cauldron" The Selaesoli Qhoran was a "wallowing tub" and the captain was flinty (dark?) and kettle-bellied. selaesori is an anagram of "leo arises" --the Lion of Night arises. (also similar sounding "currasan" means a "large deep vessel" cronan means "cauldron") While on the Selaesori: "Tyrion had never seen a bigger moon. Monstrous, swollen, it looked as if it had swallowed the sun and woken with a fever. Its twin, floating on the sea beyond the ship," Two moons, one swallowed the sun. Tyrion was in charge of cisterns in Casterly Rock, a cistern is a tank or vat. Tyrion wears a huge bucket helm to cover his huge head and gets hit in the face by a morningstar. Tyrion travels around Westeros in a shadowskin cloak, he desperately wants Casterly Rock which is a gigantic stone lion, and Tyrion's name is a rearrangement of Yin Tar --Tar Yin. Tyrion is a giant, a stone, and a lion: "Stone, I must be stone, I must be Casterly Rock, hard and unmovable. . . A lion, I must be a lion, live a lion, die a lion." "You are my lion, aren't you? My giant of Lannister?" The name Tyrian comes from the ancient city Tyre, named after the rocky outcrop of stone that it was built upon. Tyrian purple was a color of purple cloth that only the Imperial Elites were legally allowed to wear in Rome. "a rock that some say looks like a lion in repose when the sun sets and the shadows fall." "the power of Casterly Rock looming to the west like a shadow" Tyrion will cast a very large shadow: "ofttimes a very small man can cast a very large shadow" "And you. A small man with a big shadow" In gaelic luighe means "cauldron, kettle" in gaelic, and luan means "moon" and "doomsday" and Luwin was mapping the shadow planet, and was an astronomer. llew means "lion" and the Lion of Night is the doomsday moon/cauldron. Davos' sigil is a black ship and "Davos Seaworth" is an anagram of "sat overshadow" as in satellite overshadows Earth? or "shadow sat over" like the shadow that sits over the Earth like in Asshai? In the HoBW the Lion of Night sits an ebony throne. Mirri Maaz Dur's blood sacrifice ritual with Drogo has him "floating in a tub, like one dead already" and his red horse gets sacrificed with a leaf shaped blade and sprays blood all over Drogo--the dying sun floating in a tub accompanied by a red comet, and later "The slaves erected Khal Drogo's tent beneath a jagged outcrop of black rock whose shadow gave some relief from the heat of the afternoon sun"--dying sun in a tub, and in the shadow of a black rock, then gets smothered to death by Dany/the moon. The word murra / myrrha in latin means "a material of which costly vessels were made--myrrh means "bitterness" and mazdur / mazdoor means "laborer" in indian) (kaleso means "cauldron" in esperanto, kaldrono means "kettle" in esperanto)
  12. By Odin's Beard

    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    Reread the prologue, Varamyr's soul completely jumps out of his body--he went to the next level above skinchanging--his entire soul left his body, it tries to take over Thistle, fails, becomes a disembodied spirit floating around, then Varamyr's body dies and he goes into One-Eye at the same moment. And the point I was trying to make is that neither we nor Bran know what he will capable of--it is uncharted territory. Bran could do this with Hodor, then mercy kill Bran's body and stay in Hodor and escape. A skinchanger stays in their animal when they die, so Bran would stay in Hodor.
  13. By Odin's Beard

    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    I agree with you that the roots will grow out of Bran and trap his body in the cave while he dreams--I have said that several times here before. But that does not rule out the idea of Bran's consciousness/soul leaving his body altogether to escape the cave. Arya "remembered a story Old Nan had told once, about a man imprisoned in a dark castle by evil giants. He was very brave and smart and he tricked the giants and escaped . . . but no sooner was he outside the castle than the Others took him, and drank his hot red blood." There is heavy foreshadowing of Bran permanently taking over Hodor's body: "If I had a poleaxe with a big long haft, Hodor could be my legs. We could be a knight together." "Hodor must stay with Bran, to be his legs," "Hodor wandered through dark tunnels with a sword in his right hand and a torch in his left. Or was it Bran wandering? No one must ever know." "But after they were gone, he slipped inside Hodor's skin and followed them. . . "No one wants to hurt you, Hodor, he said silently, to the child-man whose flesh he'd taken. I just want to be strong again for a while. I'll give it back, the way I always do. No one ever knew when he was wearing Hodor's skin." "Then there came a brown-haired girl slender as a spear who stood on the tips of her toes to kiss the lips of a young knight as tall as Hodor. " Meera is a brown-haired girl slender as a spear, who fights with a spear, Bran is in love with Meera and thinks about using Hodor's body to hold Meera. "I could put on Hodor's skin, he thought. Hodor could hold her and pat her on the back. The thought made Bran feel strange" (Hodr/Hother means "warrior," and in Norse mythology Hodr marries Nanna, and the slender girl was Old Nan, and Hodr kills Baldor who in some stories cannot walk and is confined to a cart--Baldur represents summer, Bran is a sweet summer child with a wolf named summer, and Hodr is the winter god that slays him) The CoTF think they have Bran trapped, and they are going to eat him metaphorically like the Undying tried to do with Dany (that is the secret song they are singing that makes the ravens peck at Bran's flesh), but Bran's consciousness is going to jump out of his body completely to escape the cave--likely in Hodor's body, which has been heavily foreshadowed. "If the gods hadn't taken your wits, you would have been a great knight." And in the Ghost of Winterfell chapter, Theon refers to Bran as a god and a ghost. And in Turncloak he thinks "The gods could not kill Bran, no more than I could. It was a strange thought, and stranger still to remember that Bran might still be alive" Hodr is a god of winter, Bran is a god of winter, Hodr = Hother, and Bran is the Great Other,
  14. By Odin's Beard

    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    Bloodraven really makes the point that all Bran can do is see into the past and future--you will gaze, you will look, you will see, but the last line of Bran's POV in Dance is the "Brandon Stark could taste the blood." --in Bran's weirwood trip he did not just gaze into the past, he wasn't just watching a recording of events in the past, he was actually there. His second time in the network he already surpassed Bloodraven, and Bran did it without even being in contact with the weirwood roots. (when Varamyr's soul jumped out of his body he was the weirwood briefly, and then he was everything in the forest, "I am the wood and everything that's in it"--the disembodied soul of a skinchanger can be anything and everything) The answer is yes, because when he is talking to Theon through the tree it looks like Bran. Ned heard Bran through the tree, Theon heard Bran through the tree. And when fake Arya is presented before the Heart Tree: "The weirwood's carved red eyes stared down at them, its great red mouth open as if to laugh. In the branches overhead a raven quorked." Whereas in book 1 the "face had been carved in the trunk of the great tree, its features long and melancholy, the deep-cut eyes red with dried sap and strangely watchful." and " the great white weirwood brooded over its reflection" The tree/Bran is laughing because that's not Arya. Bran is not subject to the limitations others have. A thousand other dreamers failed that test, and got impaled on ice spires, but Bran passed. (major chekov's gun) The gods give people different skill sets, ("your blood makes you a greenseer" "By these signs do the gods mark those they have chosen to receive the gift.") Jojen could see the future but couldn't change it, Bloodraven could see the past but not change it, Jojen says Bran's skill set is vastly superior to Jojen's and there is no saying how high he might fly. As a 10 year old boy he already surpassed Varamyr in skinchanging (he can successfully take over a living human and he beat Varamyr/One-eye wolf while in Summer and took over the pack) and better than Bloodraven at surfing the weirwood net. (and no time travel discussion is complete without mentioning the Bridge of Dream)
  15. By Odin's Beard

    Carl Sagan's Dark Sister and Red Comets

    Whoa, Harrats are made of a soft volcanic rock/compressed ash called "tuff" and the Ark is the name of Tuf's all-powerful black god ship from Plague Star. If a harrat is where the Ark landed, the Ark landed on Tuff. In Dreamsongs, George says that a Tuf sequel was going to be called Tuf Landing. (he says he doesn't remember where the name Tuf came from) I am reading about the Ark of the Covenant for parallels between Arks because George blended them together for the Ark ship--a huge ship full of animals and a DNA catalogue and it gave him godly powers. The Ark of the Covenant had godly powers, it was always veiled/hidden in a cave, "When carried, the Ark was always hidden under a large veil made of skins and blue cloth, always carefully concealed, even from the eyes of the priests," it had a golden crown, it was carried before an advancing army, it made defensive walls collapse, it brought plague and disease. The Lion of Night is veiled, it advances before the invasion of the Others and veils the sun for them and gets a golden crown (the Night King's Crown), its arrival will coincide with the Wall collapsing, I just stumbled on this passage which really jumped out at me in light of the galladon = gaileadan = dark kettle: A dark lord of vengeance in an all black/night castle that wants to take over the kingdom and is associated harpies, a legion of crows, and Galyeon (one letter away from sounding like galladon, and a galleon is a ship--so it is a dark kettle ship)--this sounds like a retelling of the Long Night. "Hair of gold" is eclipse/corona imagery. I was just reading about Bran the Blessed and found this passage: Bran is known for his magical cauldron that brought back the dead, a kettle = cauldron = galladon. The cauldron that brings back the dead is a gigantic floating head or floating mountain, Bran means crow, and later he is a decapitated head, so it is a black floating head, that is associated with Uthr (the Others?). Bran's cauldron is the Dark Star that brings back the Others. (Urien and Vran sound like Euron, the Crow's Eye who spys death from afar) A partial answer to @Seams question in another thread, about Myles Toyne. toin means "other" and mille means "innumerable" and the Toyne sigil is a flying black heart on a field of gold--eclipse imagery--and the Others' servants oft have black hearts. The golden company are exiles who will return to their homeland and a gilded grinning skull held high on a spear will go before the advancing army, like the Ark and like Bran's cauldron.
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