StannisWins

And you may have ruined Meera as well, but there may be time to salvage that wreck.

lol she was on screen for what, 30 seconds? Jeez.

I don't think it makes sense to put any extra emphasis on that character at all. She is not meant to be super interesting. Instead of wasting time on this character, I could make a list of other characters being robbed of precious screen time and character development.

Remember though, she has a very big part to play down the road. So those super important scenes will likely have more impact with a more developed Shae.

If you haven't read the books, but don't get that Jamie was manacled and exhausted from being kept prisoner for months which put him at a disadvantage, then you are kind of an idiot. It was completely obvious that Brienne had the upper-hand which Jamie realized after she slammed him into the wall.

But my main reason is why they were there in the first place. Can anyone honestly tell me why they are there in the first place??? I can manage some stupid nonsensical magic because of the dragons... but why those clowns????

What the heck? Do you not know what happened at the Fist of the First Men?

I have to say that I had never heard of SanSan until last night. I had thought that I&F was immune to the shipper crap that almost ruined Lost fandom. Guess I was wrong. :-/

I just wanted to point out how funny the "Stannis would never lead the charge!" comments are when you consider that the man who invented Stannis and knows him better than anybody wrote the episode,

God I'm already annoyed at how little credit Tyrion is going to get.

They did such a good job not releasing even one single pic of the green wildfire. Nice job by HBO on that front.

Unsure of this episode. I need to watch it again.

When I read the book, I envisioned more fire, shore to shore, even fire creeping up the wall. I was hoping for heat to come through my television...

Stannis as the first one up the ladder? Not buying it.

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

10/10

A stunning success. Whatever the opposite of jumping the shark is, the show did it tonight.

Just amazing

I actually hadn't read Hitfix before. I love that there is an explicity ban on book purists posting in the comment thread LOL.

It's a spoiler thing for people who haven't read the books. His earlier reviews had people posting things like. "Wow Joffrey is a jerk...can't wait until he dies in book 3!!!"

I'm not a purist, but Cat freeing Jamie before she finds out about Bran and Rickon bugs the hell out of me. Honestly I'm just trying to pretend it didn't happen.

Is there a huge difference between B & R being dead, and B & R being held captive in a castle that's about to be under siege? Either way Cat's a mess and desperate to protect her kids any way that she possibly can. Since Jamie looked like he wasn't long for this world, she acted the only way she knew how.

It must be SO difficult to fit this book into 10 hours. Why can't people realize that and brush off the small things? Either way Jamie and Brienne are off on their adventure. Who cares about the tiny details of how it came about?

Seems the bloom is somewhat off the rose for Alan Sepinwall over at HitFix- http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-game-of-thrones-the-prince-of-winterfell-fear-itself

One hour that he felt was disjointed and D&B are losing control of the story. He's usually better than that.

Idk, I think the whole Jeyne thing happened fast and took Robb as much by surprise as everyone else...not much thought or build up went into it, and I think it was important that we were blindsided it by it, just as he and everyone else was. I never saw him as being particularly in love with Jeyne in the books, rather that he married her to preserve her honor, to do what was his duty, as he felt his father had raised him to do. I don't see why that couldn't work on the show. To me it's far more tragic, for him to have lost everything b/c he was, after all, still a boy- a lonely, inexperienced boy who made a fatal mistake for honor's sake and died for it, just like dad, than for him to have determinedly sacrificed everything for love...and I think a good actor with a good script could bring that pathos to life on screen.

I think the love story angle just plays better on TV. To me it makes a lot more sense that he marries her because he wants to vs his honor. Especially since he has to know that there will be severe repercussions.

"Robb and Talisa or whoever - meh. I don't see what we gain from this."

Man I really really really don't understand people who are saying this. What we gain from this is a path to what could be one of the most amazing scenes on TV ever. Rob just can't show up and be married without us seeing how it happens. It has to be passionate as breaking his vow is a very, very big deal. So what we're seeing with Rob and Talisa/Jeyne and Cat releasing Jamie is set up for the Red Wedding.

This stuff is ESSENTIAL for people who haven't read the books.

i honestly hate all the Jon Snow/Qhorin/Ygritte changes, they weren't necessary at all imo

I think they just wanted to get Ygritte more screen time which is fine by me. Makes sense to develop their relationship on screen.

I'm apparently the only one who didn't hate the scenes with Robb and Talisa, I guess.

I thought they were good.

I mean if Rob is going to do something as brash as blow off his pact with the Frey's they HAVE to show them falling in love. Having him show up at Riverrun and be married worked in the book because he didn't have a perspective, but in the show it's something that has to be seen.

I wonder if we will see Jaqen change. I loved that scene in the book.

Yea I was hoping for the face changing scene tonight, so I assume we're going to get it in episode 10.

No way they drop that part of Arya's story.

HBO is ruining IASOIAF

I've said it before, but ASOIAF fans are some of the worst fans I've ever encountered. Just utterly spoiled brats.

Being desperate to get back to Cersei is not at all out of character for Jamie. I mean he tossed a kid from a window for her, so killing some nobody (to him) is no different at all.

I think they "jumped the shark" on Dany's story . too much deviation . . JMO everything else is solid. 9/10.

I find this insane. So little happens in Qarth in the book and they need to give one of the shows big stars something to do. This is adaptation 101 stuff here.

What should she be doing for 10 episodes then?

I loved the changes.

I've never seen this much nit picking in my entire life. If you just went by this forum you would think that GRRM fans absolutely hate the show.

I can't even imagine how they're going to pull off the House of the Undying.

I thought that was FANTASTIC.

Shadow baby was just perfect. They are killing it so far this season.