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  1. Jaak

    What if The Iron Throne Broke Apart?

    A century ago. Yes, it bore Robert. And Tommen is chubby, but not as heavy yet as he might become while adult. At which age will Tommen reach Robert´s weight?
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    What if The Iron Throne Broke Apart?

    Westeros did not break up in 283, nor in 131. By 131, enough people wanted Westeros to not break up. What if Iron Throne broke up? It is ordinary steel - not stainless. It is not designed for easy access between the blades for regular oiling and rust protection. So what happens if/when too many load paths in the interior rust through?
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    Why Baratheons never had dragons like Velaryons?

    Better ask why Farmans never had dragons.
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    Wealth and revenues of Westeros

    Norway WAS real middle ages, and throughout middle ages Norway, along with Iceland and parts of Sweden were dominated by isolated single family farms.
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    Only Targaryens die young.

    Kings of France since Philip the Amorous: 1) Philip the Amorous - 56 2) Louis the Fat - 56 3) Louis VII - 60 4) Philip Augustus - 57 5) Louis the Lion - 39 6) Saint Louis - 56 7) Philip the Bold - 40 8) Philip the Fair - 46 9) Louis the Headstrong - 26 10) John the Posthumous - 5 days 11) Philip the Tall - 28 Roman emperors: 1) Augustus - 75 2) Tiberius - 77 Caligula - clear assassination at 28 3) Claudius - 63 (suspicions of assassination, evidence of illness) Nero - overthrow at 30 Galba - overthrow at 70 Otho - overthrow at 36 Vitellius - overthrow at 54 4) Vespasian - 69 5) Titus - 41 Domitian - assassinated at 44 6) Nerva - 67 7) Trajan - 63 8) Hadrian - 62 9) Antoninus Pius - 74 10) Marcus Aurelius - 58 Commodus - assassinated at 31 Pertinax - murdered at 66 Didius Julianus - overthrown at 60 11) Septimius Severus - 65 Chinese emperors of Han dynasty: 1) Liu Bang - 51 2) Liu Ying - 22 Liu Gong - overthrown and murdered at 9 3) Liu Hong - 10 4) Liu Heng - 45 5) Liu Qi - 46 6) Liu Che - 69 7) Liu Fuling - 19 8) Liu He - 33 9) Liu Bingyi - 41 10) Liu Shi - 42 11) Liu Ao - 43 Of Ming dynasty: 1) Hongwu - 69 Jianwen - violently, at 24 2) Yongle - 64 3) Hongxi - 46 4) Xuande - 35 5) Yingzong - 36 6) Jingtai - 28 7) Chenghua - 39 8) Hongzhi - 34 9) Zhengde - 29 10) Jiajing - 59 11) Longqing - 35
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    Wealth and revenues of Westeros

    Can the business of stewards like Vayon Poole (and ladies/housewives also taught numbers...) include selling for coin the rents collected in kind?
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    With Lannisters, we know that although the Lannister name was adopted, the male line of Lann the Golden was broken (or dispossessed) - and Joffrey Lydden, expressly an Andal, was the King even in the lifetime of his Lannister wife. With the dislike of ironmen for writing even after Andal conquest, we do not have that sort of detail for the Andal-Ironmen alliance that overthrew Greyirons. For some reason, their Riverlands and Westerlands neighbours omitted to write down that gossip, too. But it would not be odd if the Andal taint of Hoares that they would not advertize on the Isles included an Andal male line.
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    How much activity of septons is mentioned? There was NO High Septon in Andalos. There was no High Septon in Fingers, or Vale. The Andals of Andalos, Vale and Riverlands were used to a Pope in every parish, who acknowledged no higher authority on Earth. Iron Islands repeatedly banished septons as such. But when and how did the Arryns acknowledge the Hightower chaplain as the High Septon? When did Daynes? Did Andalos, like by the time of Qarlon the Great, acknowledge the High Septon in Westeros?
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    Look at it this way: Early on, Oldtown had two institutions rare elsewhere in Westeros. A trade town, by far the largest. There were a few others, the second was Lannisport well behind. And an university. The only other institution attested is pyromancers, and it is not clear where in Westeros they had headquarters or whether they were headquartered in Essos. Hightower interests would have benefited if they were recognized as a relatively neutral party in Westerosi wars - both the interests of Oldtown trade and the interests of Citadel maesters. We hear suspicions against Citadel neutrality from Wyman Manderly against Maester Theomore Lannister. But before Aegon´s Conquest, with no Iron Throne and no game of thrones to play across Westeros, northerners would have had little to fear from a Lannister. Their neighbours and foes were Arryns, whoever held Riverlands, and ironmen. Now, if the North could have found Citadel distant, impartial and trustworthy before Conquest, who would have had problems with that? For one, ironmen. With their honour objections to paying gold price, Oldtown itself, Oldtown ships and ships going to Oldtown were obvious targets to reave. For another, Dorne. Well, there was no Dorne before Nymeria. The northwest side of Red Mountains was split between Hightower, Gardener and Durrandon, of which Hightower and Gardener made an early alliance under the name of Reach. The southeast side was split between Dayne, Fowler and Yronwood. And Hightower and Dayne would have had a common border - plenty of reasons to quarrel, and no long term peace like Hightower had on the Gardener side. So how did Daynes come to accept maesters of Citadel as something else than Hightower spies?
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    The bigger problem is how ironmen accepted maesters - and how Dorne did.
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    The Maesters have a chain link for magic. Several study magic even now. Chances are that back when Valyrian sorcerors were prosperous and dangerous, there already were maesters who thought magic a sword without a hilt, disliked it and breathed a sigh of relief at Doom. But as magic was real and serious, they also made a real effort to study it to protect against it.
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    Rather, we hear of amplification - with buildup of the position of High Septon. Um? Oldtown was by far the largest and richest city. And the only one attested as a homebase of a learned institution. Oldtown Citadel could afford to buy a few glass candles, whether from legitimate sellers or as a stolen property - and wanted. Who else would? We hear of lords who express distrust of maesters of Oldtown Citadel three centuries after conquest - ironmen who distrust maesters as greenlanders, and also Barbrey Dustin and Manderly... someone in North anyway. What we do not specifically hear of is any lord thinking maesters and citadel a generally good idea - and sponsoring an university of their own. Several might have afforded to. Like Gardeners of Highgarden, Lannisters of Casterly Rock and Lannisport, or Arryns of Vale. It is possible that pyromancers did specifically have a sponsor - but we have not heard that specifics. To the contrary, if pyromancers had a specific sponsor in Westeros, why would that house have given up the tradition? It is possible that the numerous secrets of pyromancers that Hallyne mentions to exist besides wildfire include a few glass candles of theirs. Who else? Starry Sept of High Septon and Most Devout was an institution, and a rich one at that, but secular research was not so much their interest. So chances are that they did not bother buying glass candles when those were on the market.
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    Westeros was Seven Kingdoms, and more than Seven pre-Nymeria. Westeros had no center of power. We have evidence that Citadel at Oldtown predated Andal Conquest - the pets of Peremore. How did it get accepted outside Hightower domain?
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    Maesters pre-Andal invasion.

    Old Town also was by far the largest city in Westeros. But not the only city. Lannisport and Gulltown were fairly major cities of long time. And Duskendale and Maidenpool are attested with fortified outer towns.
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    Only Targaryens die young.

    English Kings since Norman Conquest: 1) William the Bastard - 59 2) William Rufus - 44 3) Henry Beauclerc - 67 4) Stephen - 58 Matilda - 65 (disputed rule, and a queen anyway) 5) Henry Curtmantle - 56 Richard Lionheart - 41, in action 6) John - 49 Louis the Lion - 39 (disputed rule) 7) Henry III - 65 8) Edward Longshanks - 68 Edward II - 43, regicide 9) Edward III - 64 Richard II - 33, regicide 10) Henry IV - 45 11) Henry V - 36 Scots after Lulach: Malcolm Canmore - 62, in action 1) Donald Bane - 67 Duncan II - 34, in action 2) Edgar Probus - 36 3) Alexander the Fierce - 45 4) David I - 69 5) Malcolm Virgo - 24 6) William the Lion - 72 7) Alexander II - 50 8) Alexander III - 44 Margaret Maid of Norway - 7 (a queen) 9) John - 65 10) Robert the Bruce - 54 11) David II - 46
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