AintNoStark Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think that he tried to approach Cersei. At least, I don't remember reading that. But I do remember reading that the day Cersei conceived Joffrey, Robert was f **** with another woman. Or that he hit her(on more than one occasion).I'm not trying to justify Cersei. That, never. But I can't understand people who claim that the fact that the marriage between them was terrible was 100% fault of Cersei. Not 100% but surely 70-30. She fucked the marriage before it started... Literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think that he tried to approach Cersei. At least, I don't remember reading that. But I do remember reading that the day Cersei conceived Joffrey, Robert was f **** with another woman. Or that he hit her(on more than one occasion).I'm not trying to justify Cersei. That, never. But I can't understand people who claim that the fact that the marriage between them was terrible was 100% Cersei's fault.He tried to approach her by inviting her to accompany him. Yes, it may wasn't the right way but he at least tried. Cersei never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain of the Guard Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The harvests were only bountiful in Roberts reign because it had been a 10 year summer. Doesn't matter which person sits the Iron Throne, if there is a 10 year summer the farmers are going to be successful in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The harvests were only bountiful in Roberts reign because it had been a 10 year summer. Doesn't matter which person sits the Iron Throne, if there is a 10 year summer the farmers are going to be successful in the field. are you sure? Have you read The Loyal Sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 are you sure? Have you read The Loyal Sword? The Loyal Sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Sworn Sword, I guess. Lost in Translation... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Sworn Sword, I guess. Lost in Translation yep. "The Sworn Sword" translates as "La espada juramentada" but the book was sold as "La espada leal" in Spain. Anyway, that book shows summers and springs can suck to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Duelist Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Robert was a charismatic leader, he was able to turn enemies to loyal friends who would die by his side. The Greyjoys disagree. It’s funny to see people claiming that he should be Tywinlike cruel and had destroyed the Greyjoys but when it comes to the Targs he should had be all lovable and kind and when it comes to Tywin he should be condemned for being cruel. Amazing strawman. Nobody said that Robert should be Tywinharsh. Only that he should have punished the Greyjoys accordingly to their crimes. Robert gets all the blame for killing Rhaegar and for what Tywin did which is completely and utterly Sorry what? Robert did kill Rhaegar, are you denying that? And nobody here is justifying the sack of KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Sworn Sword, I guess. Lost in Translation... ;) Thank you! yep. "The Sworn Sword" translates as "La espada juramentada" but the book was sold as "La espada leal" in Spain. Anyway, that book shows summers and springs can suck to. I see, sorry for the confusion. In Greece it was called "Το Ορκισμένο Σπαθί" which means "The sworn sword". But you are right, the summer had caused drought and Chequy Water was precious to both Webber's and Osgrey's plantations. So, a prolonged summer is not always good for the harvests and being the King during such time isn't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AintNoStark Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Robert did not really try or seem to give a shit about turn the Greyjoys into friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDYJTArrant Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 you can't judge based on hindsight.He insight is the only way you can judge! You can't tell if an action is a good or bad one until you know the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 He tried to approach her by inviting her to accompany him. Yes, it may wasn't the right way but he at least tried. Cersei never tried. She remembered RObert asking her many times to go hunting with him. She declined so she could stay with Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Things were great when Robert was king, things went to shit when he died I think that pretty much speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 She remembered RObert asking her many times to go hunting with him. She declined so she could stay with Jaime. Robert tried, people will say that he did it in a wrong way, but he tried, Cersei never did the same. I will say that she wouldn't have tried even if she had married Rhaegar and he proved to be the real him not the romanticized him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoffeeThatWasPromised Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't care about Robert's habits or anything else, i started liking him after i heard the story of Joff and kittens - Joff cuts out the kittens from their mother's body and gives them to Robert and Robert gets really angry and hits Joff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't care about Robert's habits or anything else, i started liking him after i heard the story of Joff and kittens - Joff cuts out the kittens from their mother's body and gives them to Robert and Robert gets really angry and hits Joff. According to Cersei it was just a mischief with a cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRhaegar Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Shitty king but at least he did the realm a favor by killing Rhaegar, that guy would of been even more out of touch than Robert.. he would have done the realm an even greater favour if it was cersei and joffery that he killed. Well at least he slapped the hell outta both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta11 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't care about Robert's habits or anything else, i started liking him after i heard the story of Joff and kittens - Joff cuts out the kittens from their mother's body and gives them to Robert and Robert gets really angry and hits Joff. Well, that might have earned Joff some choice words shouted at the top of Bob's voice, or maybe a spanking, but according to Stannis he beat the boy bloody, which is just a silly overreaction. Robert wasn't a good father, to Joffrey at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHouseHB Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 More like Jon Arryn a great hand of the king and that stupid House Tully messed things up as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Things were great when Robert was king, things went to shit when he died I think that pretty much speaks for itself Agree. More like Jon Arryn a great hand of the king and that stupid House Tully messed things up as usual House Tully? You mean Lysa et others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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