matt b Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 My outrage is in no way fake. I am in fact posting this from atop my house where i am standing naked howling at the moon. Pics or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False Alarm Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 david r. bunch's fiction is outstanding but seems nearly unread at this point. published hundreds of shorts in little mags and SF mags through the middle and late 20th century, but only a fraction of them were ever collected into a couple of books that are themselves now hard to find. wikipedia: He worked mainly in the genres of science fiction, satire, surrealism, and literary fiction. Although prolific and critically acclaimed, Bunch remained obscure throughout his career. He is mainly known for a series of violent, bleak stories set in the cyborg dystopia of Moderan, which collectively form a satire on humanity’s obsession with violence and control. here's john clute on bunch: The relentlessness of his vision and the "zany" extremity of his rendering of it ensured Bunch's continuing unpopularity…. His oeuvre is a marker of the wide range of modern sf, but his career marks the reluctance of most readers to explore that range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 John Norman. Easily both underrated and underread. He never fails to excite me, with each book more exhilarating and original than the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 David R Bunch sounds very interesting. I'm going to try and track that guy down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Titus Groan was first published in 1946 and is still in print today, 68 years after it was first published and 46 years after Peake died. 99.9% of all authors who ever lived would love to be so "overlooked". Hell Christopher Marlowe died in 1593 and we all still know his name 421 years later. I wouldn't call that "overlooked" either. I have a copy of Doctor Faustus sitting on my shelf, and I bet I'm not the only one. And if you don't have a copy, you know what? You can go down to your local bookstore and buy one, 421 years after the author's death. If we're gonna call Marlowe overlooked based solely on the fact that he's not as well known today as Shakespeare then we're gonna have to call almost every writer who ever lived overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Titus Groan was first published in 1946 and is still in print today, 68 years after it was first published and 46 years after Peake died. 99.9% of all authors who ever lived would love to be so "overlooked". Hell Christopher Marlowe died in 1593 and we all still know his name 421 years later. I wouldn't call that "overlooked" either. I have a copy of Doctor Faustus sitting on my shelf, and I bet I'm not the only one. And if you don't have a copy, you know what? You can go down to your local bookstore and buy one, 421 years after the author's death. If we're gonna call Marlowe overlooked based solely on the fact that he's not as well known today as Shakespeare then we're gonna have to call almost every writter who ever lived overlooked. To shortly get back at the close discussion : I said, Kit was overlooked if he was indeed the author of Shakespeare. That was the whole point of his "overlookedness" And his Faustus is in many countries overlooked because of Goethe's Faust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Well I mean Turgenev was overlooked if he was indeed Dostoevsky. And Stephen King is overlooked if he is indeed J.K. Rowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 And posts like these Well I mean Turgenev was overlooked if he was indeed Dostoevsky. And Stephen King is overlooked if he is indeed J.K. Rowling. should be overlooked because they are overrated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 And posts like these should be overlooked because they are overrated... Is that an effective argument, do you think? With this post you are in essence saying, "I don't like that you disagree with me so I'm going to appeal to everyone to ignore you". Do you think they'll listen? Perhaps instead of dismissing me you should try addressing my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Chuck Kinder. He was the inspiration for Micheal Douglas's character in the movie Wonderboys. He taught creative writing at Pitt and was one of Raymond Carver's drinking buddies. He wrote this pretty funny novel the Honeymooners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is that an effective argument, do you think? With this post you are in essence saying, "I don't like that you disagree with me so I'm going to appeal to everyone to ignore you". Do you think they'll listen? Perhaps instead of dismissing me you should try addressing my point. No. I choose not to. I did not choose not to because it was you, I choose not to, because your point was no point at all. It was rubbish and a meaningless statement to a real point of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 No. I choose not to. I did not choose not to because it was you, I choose not to, because your point was no point at all. It was rubbish and a meaningless statement to a real point of mine. If you can show me evidence that Marlowe being Shakespeare is any less "rubbish" than Turgenev being Dostoevsky I might agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I thought all authors were secretly KJ Parker. Myshkin, that guy is an obvious troll. Don't feed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I thought all authors were secretly KJ Parker. Myshkin, that guy is an obvious troll. Don't feed it! Trolls gotta eat too. I'm not a monster, to deny food to the hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Judith Tarr. Her later work has, by necessity, gone more towards the romantic side of things -- it's tough being a writer if you never break big -- but her The Hound and the Falcon and Avaryan series, as well as Lord of the Two Lands and some of her other historical works, are criminally underappreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Titus Groan was first published in 1946 and is still in print today, 68 years after it was first published and 46 years after Peake died. 99.9% of all authors who ever lived would love to be so "overlooked". Hell Christopher Marlowe died in 1593 and we all still know his name 421 years later. I wouldn't call that "overlooked" either. I have a copy of Doctor Faustus sitting on my shelf, and I bet I'm not the only one. And if you don't have a copy, you know what? You can go down to your local bookstore and buy one, 421 years after the author's death. If we're gonna call Marlowe overlooked based solely on the fact that he's not as well known today as Shakespeare then we're gonna have to call almost every writer who ever lived overlooked.I have an A text Dr Faustus as part of my open uni course. He's not overlooked etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 yeah, anyone who hasn't read marlowe is underread, i think is how the issue should be construed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I certainly wouldn't call someone whose works are taught in college lit class as overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Kathy Acker surely qualifies, if you happen to like Burroughs-influenced liberal feminist punk-porn lit, or if you simply like to read very funny novels. Her readership should definitely be wider than the cult following she achieved in her own lifetime; she was one of those rare occasions of an actually talented member of the postmodern avant-garde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 yeah, anyone who hasn't read marlowe is underread, i think is how the issue should be construed. I certainly wouldn't call someone whose works are taught in college lit class as overlooked. Perhaps in your countries. By that logic I could call anybody who hasn't read Dulu Wang or Schiller or Goethe, Dürrenmatt, Lessing, Levoy, Ende, Mao, Confucius, Murakami, .... underread. These are all legendary writers in their countries but not necessarily outside. That is the most stupid thing I've ever heard, really. Marlowe is not at all known in all countries. and not well read. Only because you read it in your college class..pff. That does not make someone important or well-read nor well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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