Arianne and her betrayal?

[HexMachina]

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I thought it was purple. Like so: Darkstar :idea:

ETA: With the whole purple = night and I am of the night.

[Veltigar]

I thought it was purple. Like so: Darkstar :idea:

ETA: With the whole purple = night and I am of the night.

Purple is more appropriate :P But I just clicked on the first colour, so pink will have to do :P

[Good Guy Garlan]

This is a tricky one. I refuse to believe it was one of those randoms, but Douchestar wanted to kill Myrcella from the start, not give her back to Doran.

Could be that Arys did it and then he killed himself (with Hotah's ax) but in the first draft of the book he survived and got arrested.

Myrcella didn't know the specifics of where they were going and neither did her handmaiden

I'm tempted to say it was Varys who told Doran to win his trust in advance, but I think Douchestar works for him and a dead Myrcella suited their purposes better than a live one

[HexMachina]

Purple is more appropriate :P But I just clicked on the first colour, so pink will have to do :P

My name is Darkstar and I am of...the rose? :lol:

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

My name is Darkstar and I am of...the rose? :lol:

Darkstar of the cotton candy! That's usually pink.

Do we get a cookie each time we write Darkstar?

[drunken giant]

Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm re- reading AFFC and was wondering who ye think betrayed Arianne to Prince Doran about her plan to crown Myrcella?

I would say Darkstar working with Doran

[HexMachina]

Darkstar of the cotton candy! That's usually pink.

Perfect :lol: I only said rose because it was the first pink thing that sprang to mind (since I can see them from my window)

Do we get a cookie each time we write Darkstar?

Candy floss would be more appropriate :p

[theriveryeti]

Could be that Arys did it and then he killed himself (with Hotah's ax) but in the first draft of the book he survived and got arrested.

Just curious, how'd you see the first draft?

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Just curious, how'd you see the first draft?

I think GRRM mentioned somewhere. He often changes stuff after readings

For example, Janos Slynt was hanged, not beheaded. He later changed it after hearing that it would be better for Jon to pass the sentence

[Pod The Impaler]

Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm re- reading AFFC and was wondering who ye think betrayed Arianne to Prince Doran about her plan to crown Myrcella?

This has been asked before, and I think the answer I gave was Arys Oakheart. His vows, his guilt, may have driven him to it. He gives Arianne one last (hurt) look and charges into his death.

Other possibilities are Garin (who seems the sort to turn informant if under pressure), and Darkstar.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

I think GRRM mentioned somewhere. He often changes stuff after readings

For example, Janos Slynt was hanged, not beheaded. He later changed it after hearing that it would be better for Jon to pass the sentence

I interesting, about Arys as well. Would you happen to know of any summaries of such readings from Feast and Dance?

[Michael Snow]

I wouldn't be surprised if in the Winds of Winter she finds out each of them contributed, in their own way, one after another, to the plan being leaked. Most likely unintentionally, just... as some other posters have said, it seems to be a very chatty crowd.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

I interesting, about Arys as well. Would you happen to know of any summaries of such readings from Feast and Dance?

Feast, I'll have to look for it. Dance is here in the board:

Jon says, 'Take him to the wall.' He thinks, 'I could send him away somewhere else, but if I send him to east watch, he'll come back to cause trouble.'

'Take him to the wall,' Jon says, 'and hang him.'

Slynt freaks, yelling, struggling, kicking as they throw him into the cage and start lifting. 'I have friends, if Tywin Lannister were alive you would never...' His voice fades away as he is lifted to the top. The rope they found was a hundred feet long but the wall is seven hundred feet tall. They hear his neck crack as he hits the end of the rope.

Jon glances back at Stannis. Stannis nods, then turns and goes back inside.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/27418-pre-adwd-spoilers-jon-3-but-actually-jon-1/

[Julia Martell]

Feast, I'll have to look for it. Dance is here in the board:

Jon says, 'Take him to the wall.' He thinks, 'I could send him away somewhere else, but if I send him to east watch, he'll come back to cause trouble.'

'Take him to the wall,' Jon says, 'and hang him.'

Slynt freaks, yelling, struggling, kicking as they throw him into the cage and start lifting. 'I have friends, if Tywin Lannister were alive you would never...' His voice fades away as he is lifted to the top. The rope they found was a hundred feet long but the wall is seven hundred feet tall. They hear his neck crack as he hits the end of the rope.

Jon glances back at Stannis. Stannis nods, then turns and goes back inside.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/27418-pre-adwd-spoilers-jon-3-but-actually-jon-1/

Well, considering "Edd, fetch me a block." is mentioned by quite a few people as their single, most favourite line in the series, I think The George made a good decision in that.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Feast, I'll have to look for it. Dance is here in the board:

Jon says, 'Take him to the wall.' He thinks, 'I could send him away somewhere else, but if I send him to east watch, he'll come back to cause trouble.'

'Take him to the wall,' Jon says, 'and hang him.'

Slynt freaks, yelling, struggling, kicking as they throw him into the cage and start lifting. 'I have friends, if Tywin Lannister were alive you would never...' His voice fades away as he is lifted to the top. The rope they found was a hundred feet long but the wall is seven hundred feet tall. They hear his neck crack as he hits the end of the rope.

Jon glances back at Stannis. Stannis nods, then turns and goes back inside.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/27418-pre-adwd-spoilers-jon-3-but-actually-jon-1/

Cool! Awesome, thanks :D

[theriveryeti]

Feast, I'll have to look for it. Dance is here in the board:

Jon says, 'Take him to the wall.' He thinks, 'I could send him away somewhere else, but if I send him to east watch, he'll come back to cause trouble.'

'Take him to the wall,' Jon says, 'and hang him.'

Slynt freaks, yelling, struggling, kicking as they throw him into the cage and start lifting. 'I have friends, if Tywin Lannister were alive you would never...' His voice fades away as he is lifted to the top. The rope they found was a hundred feet long but the wall is seven hundred feet tall. They hear his neck crack as he hits the end of the rope.

Jon glances back at Stannis. Stannis nods, then turns and goes back inside.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/27418-pre-adwd-spoilers-jon-3-but-actually-jon-1/

Thanks, that's some cool Inside Baseball.

[HexMachina]

Well, considering "Edd, fetch me a block." is mentioned by quite a few people as their single, most favourite line in the series, I think The George made a good decision in that.

Well it was a changed that fans asked for, if I understand correctly :)

ETA: I wonder, do we have a Feast for Crows archives somewhere?

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Well it was a changed that fans asked for, if I understand correctly :)

ETA: I wonder, do we have a Feast for Crows archives somewhere?

You'll have to look for them individually. That way I found very old threads.

[Dead Wolf]

I believe it was Spotted Sylva

[Lady Blizzardborn]

I was just thinking about this the other day and I think it was Arys. Part of pulling that suicide move was so Arianne wouldn't know that he was the one who sold her out, that he chose duty over her love.

Granted part of the reason I think this is because I really really want that Lannister cousin to be the one who got Darkstar's sword in the head, and it would be difficult to have switched the girls without Arys' knowledge.