Bustard Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lysa Tully and Viserys Targaryen are two of the most annoying/detestable characters in the series. That hasn't stopped some readers for sympathizing with their tragic circumstances (and ultimate demise). Who do you feel worse for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickrs Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lysa. She suffered from the same fate as many women in this world; packed off like a piece of cloth to new husband she knew nothing about. Not the worst fate, but not a good one. Her father forced an abortion on her from the one person she seems to actually want to have kids with. She suffered a bunch more miscarriages after that. As much as her actions have caused terrible things, they were mostly wrought by that cunt Petyr, so I consider her a tragic and perhaps accidental villain and Petyr.. well, he's just a cunt. Too lazy to do Viserys but Danzie does a good review right here and she's fully aware that it's "for the devil." Basically, terrible circumstances turned him into a worse person that he probably would have been,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 They are both pathetic but I suppose I feel worse for Viserys since Drogo killed him before he could cause too much trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys Targaryen, he suffered since a small child by no fault through his own losing over half his family and having to keep him and his sister alive having his family's dynasty on his shoulders is hell. Viserys is actually tragic one of the very few characters who were a victim of his environment, he was one if the most innocent people in RR. I pity him. Lysa Tully was always a jealous piece of shit I don't have much if any sympathy for her, it flew out the window when I read she killed Jon Arryn than tried to kill Sansa. She was a victim of Hoster but she blamed everybody from her sister to her niece who just spent a year being terrorize by Lannister monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lysa Tully and Viserys Targaryen are two of the most annoying/detestable characters in the series. That hasn't stopped some readers for sympathizing with their tragic circumstances (and ultimate demise). Who do you feel worse for? Lysa, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equilibrium Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I liked Viserys and commiserated with his plight, it's shame for one Targaryen to drop that low with no fault of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Brandon Ice Eyes Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I feel sympathy for both of them. Plenty of character are worse than Lysa and Viserys. I will go with Viserys. During a reread I started to warm up to both him and Dany. And considering Viserys never killed anyone in his life and Lysa is partially responsible for a conflict that killed thousands of people I'd say Viserys deserves more sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolsimir Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Well, I kinda feel sorry for both, but more so for Viserys because he was always a piece in a game that was out of his control.Lysa, while she was clearly manipulated by LF, could have made the right choice, but she decided to kill her husband just because she wanted to be with LF and because she didn't want Sweetrobin to be fostered at Dragonstone, even though it was the right decision because she was spoiling him to the core. And last but not least, she pinned the murder on the Lannisters and almost had one of them killed to cover her tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys. Lysa at least had a good childhood. Things starting going downhill for her when LF got her pregnant. Viserys life was tragic at 8 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Umber Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Man, this is hard. I guess Viserys cause he seems to be more of a victim of circumstances and didn't help throw the realm into turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacredOrderOfGreenMen Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lysa, cause of the pain of multiple pregnancies and having a to have sex with a disgusting old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfTheRock Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys, who turned mad through the loss of his entire family, except for Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustard Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 So far it's 3 for Lysa and 11 for Viserys. I tend to agree with the majority here. Ilyrio set Viserys up for failure with faulty notions of being "the rightful king." Lysa fell victim to her own bitterness/jealousy and played right into LF's hand. Knowingly murdering her husband and threatening to do the same with her niece is pretty unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eija Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys definitely.. others have already mentioned why: What a crappy childhood - and (too short) life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dya of Oldstones Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Viserys for me, but I think he could have potentially caused as much trouble as Lysa if he lived longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 except for Dany. Which makes it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Neither . This is already known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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