Til Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Davos (I believe) thinks to himself at one point that a single voyage to the Jade Sea would make a man rich for the rest of his life. Yi Ti, Leng and Asshai are enormously wealthy/productive trade powers. And we know that the winds/currents/whatever make it so that if you're sailing east, you have to go through the Jade Gates. So Qarth is in a prime position to benefit from the luxury goods trade between western Essos and eastern Essos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I consider Yi TI to be a combination of both China and Southeast Asia, the rainforests and gold resembled Thailand much more than China, but the size and mongols north of them resembles China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Except Yi Ti is basically China, the biggest and wealthiest empire around, with obviously a good technological level to boot - and was at the very least the equal of Valyria at its peak, like Han China was to the Roman Empire.In this regard, Qarth would basically be where India is in our world. Oh yes that makes sense. I'm well and truly convinced, I think. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummester Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Greatest city that never was, or never will be. The remnants of the Freehold, clinging on for dear life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancy Face Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, they may have incendiary trousers but they're rich as all hell. I guess that's why everything they have and everything they do is so ostentatious and opulent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acnologia Targaryen Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 LOLOL that does sound funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornishwoman's Husband Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I still haven't read quite everything in TWOIAF, but I have one question. Is there anything about warlocks of Qarth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 ^no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Except Yi Ti is basically China, the biggest and wealthiest empire around, with obviously a good technological level to boot - and was at the very least the equal of Valyria at its peak, like Han China was to the Roman Empire.In this regard, Qarth would basically be where India is in our world.Do you mean the geographical position of India in our world? Even so India is not analogous to Qarth as the Indian subcontinent was much larger and vaster with various terrains and Qarth is in no way described as sounding like ancient India. In terms of the age of civilizations which was what the OP's comment about Qarth was, Qarth cannot be compared to India. The Indian civilization is as old or even older than the Chinese civilization. Ever heard of the Harrapan civilization? And India was the center of trade in later Greek and Roman times not because it gave access to China or Chinese goods but because India itself was a wealth of resources and riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis's Lawyer Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Do you mean the geographical position of India in our world? Even so India is not analogous to Qarth as the Indian subcontinent was much larger and vaster with various terrains and Qarth is in no way described as sounding like ancient India. In terms of the age of civilizations which was what the OP's comment about Qarth was, Qarth cannot be compared to India. The Indian civilization is as old or even older than the Chinese civilization. Ever heard of the Harrapan civilization? And India was the center of trade in later Greek and Roman times not because it gave access to China or Chinese goods but because India itself was a wealth of resources and riches.The Indus Valley Civilization wasn't exactly an ancestor of modern Indian civilization... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Quarth also reminds me Bagdad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The Indus Valley Civilization wasn't exactly an ancestor of modern Indian civilization...Archaelogists and historians postulate that the Harippan civilization moved to south India. there's commonalities in the dravidian script and that of the Indus valley civilization. So yes, it may not be part of the Aryan civilization that followed but they were still part of Indian civilization. And I don't know what you mean by modern Indian civilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Quarth also reminds me BagdadThe Mesopotamian civilization (Iraq) is considered the oldest known civilization hence why it's called the cradle of civilization. So if as the OP argued that Qarth is not one of the oldest civilizations in AWOIAF, then it can't be Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Bagdad was funded in VIII century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 There were nothing about Qarkash and Port Yhos in the book, but I guess we can assume that these are colonies established by Qarth, since Qarth for a while was the only surviving Qaathi city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BaghdadReally? Wikipedia is your source. Well even if you used wikipedia, they are talking about the founding of the present city of Baghdad post Islamic conquest. Baghdad was settled long before and you would see that if you read the wiki article further. Again, Baghdad is in Iraq that was once called Babylon or Mesopotamia, which are very ancient civilizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimples Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Archaelogists and historians postulate that the Harippan civilization moved to south India. there's commonalities in the dravidian script and that of the Indus valley civilization. So yes, it may not be part of the Aryan civilization that followed but they were still part of Indian civilization. And I don't know what you mean by modern Indian civilization. That could be true, but right now it's just postulation based on a few commonalities, whereas (in contrast) the early Yellow River civilization is very clearly the antecedent of later Chinese society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Qarth is older assomeclaim it here. Note that itwas founded after the qaathi fled from the sarnori, what happenedsome thousand years ago. Well, the worldbook says that the oldest civilizations are sarnor, ghis and yi ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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