Salafi Stannis Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So, I'm wondering, what was going through Lord Darklyn's mind when he decided to kidnap the King, there was literally no way it was going top end well, so, why did he do it? And why did the people in his castle go through with it? I mean, they had to know that they couldn't hold the king forever, and that as soon as he was released, or if they killed him, they would all lose their heads, so why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So, I'm wondering, what was going through Lord Darklyn's mind when he decided to kidnap the King, there was literally no way it was going top end well, so, why did he do it? And why did the people in his castle go through with it? I mean, they had to know that they couldn't hold the king forever, and that as soon as he was released, or if they killed him, they would all lose their heads, so why? Wasn't he ensorceled by some lady parts? Edit: yeah I was thinking of the right guy: “In Duskendale they love Lord Denys still, despite the woe he brought them. ’Tis Lady Serala that they blame, his Myrish wife. The Lace Serpent, she is called. If Lord Darklyn had only wed a Staunton or a Stokeworth... well, you know how smallfolk will go on. The Lace Serpent filled her husband’s ear with Myrish poison, they say, until Lord Denys rose against his king and took him captive. The Lace Serpent was burned alive, poor woman, though her tongue was torn out first, and her female parts, with which it was said that she had enslaved her lord. Half of Duskendale will still tell you that Aerys was too kind to her.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The silver dragon Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 he was not the sharpest knife in the box? *crackpot* tywin promised him it would be okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monctonvike Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Perhaps truely just a guess on my part, but kind of like Balon during his rebellion he thought that the other regions may join him once the crown was shown as weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lepus Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Wasn't he ensorceled by some lady parts? Edit: yeah I was thinking of the right guy: If Lady Serala thought that could work and managed to convince Lord Denys Darklyn to do it, I don't know which of the two was the biggest idiot. I guess Lord Denys wasn't very well in his head himself. A madman kidnapping another madman. Perhaps truely just a guess on my part, but kind of like Balon during his rebellion he thought that the other regions may join him once the crown was shown as weak. At that point the Targaryen were still rock solid, they had not shown any weakness. And why would the greatest lords follow some to-bits lordling like Lord Denys, who for no reason kidnapped the freaking king of the continent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I guess the kidnapping was an accident of some kind. I doubt it was the plan all along. Things clearly got out of hand somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erza Whitewalker Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think GRRM needed some event to drive Aerys over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I guess the kidnapping was an accident of some kind. I doubt it was the plan all along. Things clearly got out of hand somewhere. This is a really important point. Aerys wanted to show he could be as hard as Tywin and Darklyn was too proud to publicly give up without getting anything for his people. He definitely did not plan that shit. Edit: also never underestimate the power of the Myrish swamp to cloud one's judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I sorta think the Lace Serpent is innocent, mostly based on the number of people unfairly hated by the smallfolk (the Red Widow of Coldmoat, Bloodraven, Tyrion, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the storm king returns Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Thank you OP i have been wondering about this as well, It honestly makes 0 sense at all just a rushed event on GRRM part to make aerys go MAD.There is NO best case scenario to speak of from kidnapping the King who btw had a young adult for an heir to to top it all off. Like what did he think powerful lords were gonna come to the aid of lord who gives a F ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headless Wolf Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Rhaegar and Tywin plotted it out with him maybe? Tywin did say if Aerys died they had a better king (Rhaegar) right there when he sent Barristan into Duskendale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Wasn't he ensorceled by some lady parts? Edit: yeah I was thinking of the right guy: I sorta think the Lace Serpent is innocent, mostly based on the number of people unfairly hated by the smallfolk (the Red Widow of Coldmoat, Bloodraven, Tyrion, etc) Yep. Blaming the foreign woman is not exactly something people WOULD NOT do in Westeros. I guess the kidnapping was an accident of some kind. I doubt it was the plan all along. Things clearly got out of hand somewhere. How can you accidentally kidnap a person?? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Drew Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 To think, this was an act carried out by one of the first Targaryen supporters during the Conquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Harpy Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 How can you accidentally kidnap a person?? :lol: Ever seen Horrible Bosses 2? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ever seen Horrible Bosses 2? :pOr Arrested Development (which coincidentally features Jason Bateman doing the accidental kidnapping as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ever seen Horrible Bosses 2? :P Or Arrested Development (which coincidentally features Jason Bateman doing the accidental kidnapping as well) Well, then it's possible. They accidentally the Mad King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Or Arrested Development (which coincidentally features Jason Bateman doing the accidental kidnapping as well) I'm pretty sure Charlie Day was also involved in an "accidental kidnapping" on It' Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I'm pretty sure Charlie Day was also involved in an "accidental kidnapping" on It' Always Sunny in Philadelphia. That was a bit less accidental, and more drunken mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 That was a bit less accidental, and more drunken mistake. Well one could say the same thing about me, but my mom prefers the term accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The silver dragon Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 sure accidentally kidnapping him is one thing. they might be able to get out of that with their house still in place. but threatening to kill the king, and torturing him is an entirely different matter. (like really what were they thinking? :dunno: )And lady lance may not be so guiltless. the lord of duskdale refused to pay taxes for trade related reason's. the free cites are far more mercantile than westeros. and a foreigner would probably have less respect for the king's authority. when Myr has Magister's. until we have more info we can't be certain whether or not she was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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