Truly Just Man Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hitler was kind to dogs! Stannis likes dogs as well. Good animals. Loyal. :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I haven't really been too miffed about the show's portrayal of Stannis with the exception of one scene; having him sanction the burning Axell Florent & Friends for not converting to the Lord of Light. I imagine this will make it impossible for many show watchers to sympathize with him no matter what he does in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondo has three heads Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The scene with him and Shireen could make grown men shed a tear. He loves his daughter so much. The whole "are you ashamed of me father" And then hearing the story about the doll and how people wanted her to be sent away to the stone men etc People who dont like Stannis have to like him a little bit more with that scene its hard not to Loved it. Thought Stannis was Ok in the books and terrible in the show. Almost cried during that scene. though it made it way too obvious that shireen is going to die this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grissom Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Sympathy is followed by DeathNedRob & CatOberyn reveals his reasonHound tells his storyStannis is dead. Did you really think he will sit on the IT? :)Too bad the hound isn't even dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grissom Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hitler was kind to dogs! You think thats funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I haven't really been too miffed about the show's portrayal of Stannis with the exception of one scene; having him sanction the burning Axell Florent & Friends for not converting to the Lord of Light. I imagine this will make it impossible for many show watchers to sympathize with him no matter what he does in the future. That was a pretty damning scene, yeah. I think the idea is that Stannis grudgingly defers to Mel on some of that shit because he knows her magic is real. I mean she proved it, with shadow babies and flame visions and poison-surviving. In the post-Axel scene, Stannis snarls, "I hate a great many things, but I suffer them all the same," suggesting that he sees Mel's sacrifices as a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't see that. On the show he's burning 'infidels' and critics of Melisandre just because she told him to, seemingly. They never mention any desire to reap magical benefit (and never get any), only that the infidels need to be punished for being infidels. That's Joffrey levels of evil. His burnings made sense in the novels; the only people being burned were those who were facing a beheading or hanging regardless of religion, he just swapped out the traditional method for a painful one to get magical benefit. It encapsulated: - his uncompromising justice, in that he is unwilling to punish anyone but those he would punish otherwise, despite knowing the magical power at his disposal,- his mercilessness in his willingness to inflict excruciating pain on traitors/enemies,- his pragmatism. For some reason Dave and Dan deemed it more important that Stannis burn people for shit all, and that the audience be repeatedly reminded of it. Davos and Saan talk about how he's been burning all those who criticized Melisandre, Melisandre defends their burning of infidels for the crime of being infidels, Stannis questions how much Davos cares about his own life when he is unwilling not to criticize Melisandre, and then there's the Axell scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Wait... There are people out there that hate Stannis? Blasphemy.I did love this scene. The hug at the end was perfect. I'm pretty sure it means Stannis and Shireen are probably doomed, but hey. I stopped having feelings after the Red Wedding.Oh dear friend...There are a LOT of people who hate stannis.The reason being they dont think a "real" Baratheon will sit on the iron throne again.They like to support Dany , Snow, Tyrion & Bran because they know its GRRMs favorite characters and at the end wanna say "Ha, told you so."I personally dont hate stannis, but with the endless amount of bad luck he has to deal with, I dont think he will sit on the IT.Hence like all the others I mentioned, I do not support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I like him maybe 1 % more. Regardless, I think he's dead meat at the end of this season, or the start of the next one. I hope he is not. I never strongly disliked him, but with time it transitioned from a slight dislike to like. Partially due to the death of other "heroes". Selyse on the other hand...no me gusta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Must Die Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hitler was kind to dogs! You think thats funny? Not sure how it couldn't be funny after Charlie in It's Always Sunny comes across an 'original Hitler' German Shepherd painting.. http://www.ststlocations.com/Resume/Sadie/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia/sadie_ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia_001.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanx5 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I loved that scene, I almost shed a tear there, it was a great scene. And good for D&D to show another layer to Stannis I like him maybe 1 % more. Regardless, I think he's dead meat at the end of this season, or the start of the next one. I still dont see how people are making the conclusion just because they give Stannis and Shireen a great father/daughter scene that they are going to kill them off, there are no hints of that. D&D needed to show another side to Stannis as a character which they did as he has/is getting a lot more screen time than usual so you need to show different sides of characters. So just because you want to flesh out a character a little more doesnt mean they are going to be killed off. Stannis will definitely make it through s5, and probably s6, but people have kept on going of Stannis is going to die and guess what he is still going and dont see that changing for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashernate Reader Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The good does not wash out the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 All that matters is his portrayal right now this season. TV audiences are very easily swayed and after that scene the Mannis gained a lot of new fans. I would put money on the Pink Letter being in episode 10 :( We will have to wait until S6 to find out whats true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I will admit that I'm marginally worried about Stannis' survival this season, and even more so for Shireen. At this point, the show's audience has been conditioned to expect the worst scenarios, so I think it would be great if they defied that expectation with these two. The amount of time the writers spent on developing the Jon-Stannis bromance gives me hope that they intend to have them meet up again at some point in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reckoner Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Dungeons and Dragons can't flim flam Stan the Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Raven Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Stannis can correct my grammar anytime he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatzin Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I loved that scene, I almost shed a tear there, it was a great scene. And good for D&D to show another layer to Stannis I still dont see how people are making the conclusion just because they give Stannis and Shireen a great father/daughter scene that they are going to kill them off, there are no hints of that. D&D needed to show another side to Stannis as a character which they did as he has/is getting a lot more screen time than usual so you need to show different sides of characters. So just because you want to flesh out a character a little more doesnt mean they are going to be killed off. Stannis will definitely make it through s5, and probably s6, but people have kept on going of Stannis is going to die and guess what he is still going and dont see that changing for a long time. There is a scene after the blackwater defeat, Melissandre says to Stannis something along the lines of 'you will betray your men, your family... you will betray everything you once held dear but it all be worth it...' In this scene his daugther seems to be very dear to him... :uhoh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 That Jon Snow "thank you" and then the march out of CB to free Winterfell, was One True King material yet again... Fare well Your Grace :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayarea Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I don't hate Stannis, but I find him to be completely uninteresting so I'll be mad if he's the one to "win" the Iron Throne. I actually agree with what Renly Baratheon said about his personality back in season one. That scene was great, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Burns Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I don't hate Stannis, but I find him to be completely uninteresting so I'll be mad if he's the one to "win" the Iron Throne. I actually agree with what Renly Baratheon said about his personality back in season one. That scene was great, anyway. I highly doubt the newly freed Colonies wanted George Washington to be their leader because he was "interesting" But I guess I can understand. I find Dany bland and annoying... which is why I don't want her to be queen... And because Stannis is the one true king... :bowdown: And besides, a King doesn't need friends, just servants and subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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