Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 People are complaining about abusive exploitative sexuality and focus on sexual deviance in the show, and how it is being introduced by HBO where it did not appear in the books in order to create buzz. This is Glen Beck level analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 But they are. Well I do not read the books. I couldn't read more than 1 paragraph in this article !! Too big.Anyway since I dont read the books I make no book vs show comparison and generally don't like listening to it either.Anyway I feel the reactions very un necessary.I personally feel it is good that D&D show brutality in any form. Im glad they don't shy away.TheonGendrySansaDanyEvil MerynPolliverJoffreyIf feminists wrote the story I guess Joffrey would love his wife?I dunno.I like how they show evil rascals on screen and am even happier when revenge is served. My opinion. Period.I never like it in real life. But I like a dark world on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 This is Glen Beck level analysis. Insult over analysis. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 @ JONCON, no I do not get it now. The girl in that scene is one of how many? In the books they tell us how girls start learning the sex trade under the age of 10. Can a child under that age make a decision to willingly do that, no of course not. So that is rape and exploitation, same as this scene. But, GRRM wrote it so it's ok, and the set up is ok. Will never agree on this, so I will move on to another make believe thing that doesn't impact real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 @ JONCON, no I do not get it now. The girl in that scene is one of how many? In the books they tell us how girls start learning the sex trade under the age of 10. Can a child under that age make a decision to willingly do that, no of course not. So that is rape and exploitation, same as this scene. But, GRRM wrote it so it's ok, and the set up is ok. Will never agree on this, so I will move on to another make believe thing that doesn't impact real life. Yes. They tell us. Martin doesn't need to go and rub a frightened virgin on our faces. Wait... he did show one... Jeyne! And they cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Freypie Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 This.The sexual violence in the books is excessive and pornographic. And there's no good reason why the characters cant be of today's legal age. The sexual violence in the books is necessary to depict the society and characters the books are about.And there's a good reason for characters ages, a 5 years gap was planned (just mentally add 5 years and everything become more believable ; or as it's written nowhere westerosi years have 365 days imagine they have 500). About adaptation, it's a choice to insist on those aspects or not, and by keeping/adding which scenes (imo the global level of sexual violence is fine, in line with asoiaf world, the choice of scenes they decided to include less so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 In the end, if you find yourself defending the depiction of pedophilia in art you should probably reevaluate. That includes GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 In the end, if you find yourself defending the depiction of pedophilia in art you should probably reevaluate. Wow. Got to be a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah, because calling for caution with respect to depicting child rape is only something a troll would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Wow. Got to be a troll. "Someone with a well explained opinion that contradicts mine! It must be a troll!". http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8gqm7WHvL1rwvm25o1_500.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yes. They tell us. Martin doesn't need to go and rub a frightened virgin on our faces. You know the difference between prose and television right? In a visual medium you have to show it. GRRM can describe something, D & D have to show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 You know the difference between prose and television right? In a visual medium you have to show it. GRRM can describe something, D & D have to show it. What does this have to do with introducing pedophilia as a plot point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah, because calling for caution with respect to depicting child rape is only something a troll would do. You didn't call for caution. You made some very vague point about the depiction of paedophilia in art. When was this depiction of child rape? I must have missed that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 You know the difference between prose and television right? In a visual medium you have to show it. GRRM can describe something, D & D have to show it. Actually, when you write, a bit tip is "show, don't tell". Yet, Martin has mostly told us about these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 You didn't call for caution. You made some very vague point about the depiction of paedophilia in art. When was this depiction of child rape? I must have missed that scene. The little girl being led off-screen by Trant. Did you miss that part? Does it only qualify as child rape if you see it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What does this have to do with introducing pedophilia as a plot point? If a brothel sells kids then you have to show it. What's wrong with making Trant a pedo anyway? Do you think it might increase the likelihood of pedophilia in the real world? why is this topic off limits to you as a subject for art, literature and television? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The little girl being led off-screen by Trant. Did you miss that part? Does it only qualify as child rape if you see it happen? So we didn't see it. We IMAGINED it. There was no depiction of child rape. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If a brothel sells kids then you have to show it. No you don't. Especially if it is irrelevant to the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So we didn't see it. We IMAGINED it. There was no depiction of child rape. Right? So you have to see it in order for it to have actually happened in the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 People may ask themslevs, why are you so invested in defending off-screen child rape on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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