The Man from Nowhere Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 So as we know Ellaria poisoned Myrcella, so it would seem pretty obvious that when they return to kings landing Cersie will be hell bent on exacting revenge. The obvious choice would be Trystane as he's Dorans son whom Cersie will undoubtably blame for whatever befalls her daughter.And likewise what will this mean for Doran himself when he learns of it? Surely Ellaria will be killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkcaptaiiin Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Would she care, all she wants is war with the lannisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurybia Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't think Kevan would allow Trystane to be killed immediately. I think there would be a lot of diplomacy, a trial, etc. Who knows how much Cersei will have recovered from her WoS at the beginning of next season. I imagine it'll take a while for her to get her full queenly powers back. Also, what an awkward boat ride back to King's Landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facebookless Man Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Would she care, all she wants is war with the lannistersExcept the logical outcome is Doran executing her and the snakes, not war with the lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkcaptaiiin Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Except the logical outcome is Doran executing her and the snakes, not war with the lannisters.Would that really be enough for cersei? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tyrion I Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't think Kevan would allow Trystane to be killed immediately. I think there would be a lot of diplomacy, a trial, etc. Who knows how much Cersei will have recovered from her WoS at the beginning of next season. I imagine it'll take a while for her to get her full queenly powers back. Also, what an awkward boat ride back to King's Landing.:agree:So much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I dunno, if I was Jaime I'd have turned around there and then. Tell Bronn if I'm not back in an hour or if anyone tries to board the boat, kill Trystane, tell Doran what happened and let him kill the Sand Snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Hour Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I dunno, if I was Jaime I'd have turned around there and then. Tell Bronn if I'm not back in an hour or if anyone tries to board the boat, kill Trystane, tell Doran what happened and let him kill the Sand Snakes. It's still a dornish boat, I doubt they're willing to obey Jaime's orders. Although if you really plan on killing Myrcella you should probably kill Jaime and Bronn too, and pretend the boat simply sank or was captured by pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 It's still a dornish boat, I doubt they're willing to obey Jaime's orders. Although if you really plan on killing Myrcella you should probably kill Jaime and Bronn too, and pretend the boat simply sank or was captured by pirates. Yeah, it's a Dornish boat but it's not like the SS commandeered the crew. Hell, I'd even bet Trystane would be pissed at them and demanding revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Hour Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Yeah, it's a Dornish boat but it's not like the SS commandeered the crew. Hell, I'd even bet Trystane would be pissed at them and demanding revenge. Well, according to most here on the forum Doran knew about the kiss of death, so someone on the crew could have been ready for what was to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatrineDiggerBrian Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I really don't see Jaime blaming Trystane and Doran Martell for Myrcella's death. It's also hard to imagine him sailing back to Kings Landing after being so close to the shores of Dorne (and also because that would almost certainly lead to Trystanes death and starting a war with Dorne which Jaime doesn't want). I think they head back to Dorne and with the blessing of Prince Doran, Bronn, Jaime, and maybe Areo Hotah go on a search for the Sand Snakes and Ellaria. Maybe Prince Doran forbids Trystane from going with them but he sneaks out anyway. I think Bronn is going to turn on Jaime eventually, you could see them building up Jaime being a dick to Bronn throughout last season: * Snaps at him on the boat* Sort of rubs in the fact that he has to do all the rowing* Makes him bury the bodies* Gloats at the fact that Areo Hotah is about to viciously elbow him in the face* Other things I can't think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurybia Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Well, according to most here on the forum Doran knew about the kiss of death, so someone on the crew could have been ready for what was to come.If he is, I'll be super annoyed. For the whole season, we got zero indication that he was anything but a peace-loving Lannister loyalist. And to send your only child away on the boat with a dying princess and her volatile (if one-handed) father? What a terrible plan, and that isn't even thinking about what Cersei will do when they get to KL.I feel like this situation will eventually get him into Dany's camp, or press him into revealing his true, Fire & Blood loyalties, but I don't think he was in on killing Myrcella.Now watch me be wrong, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronVonOwn Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I fully expect Ellaria to murder Doran and seek out an anti-Lannister alliance with Daenerys next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Maybe Doran did set up the kiss, but made sure Trystane had the antidote so he could heroically foil the murder. If Myrcella dies, she will not wear a golden crown to fulfill Maggy's prophecy, or maybe D&D aren't worrying about that detail. Not all prophecies are perfect. Personally, though, I prefer the idea that they will not go to King's Landing at all, but maybe to Meereen instead to do Quentyn's storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickon will return Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think Kevan would allow Trystane to be killed immediately. I think there would be a lot of diplomacy, a trial, etc. Who knows how much Cersei will have recovered from her WoS at the beginning of next season. I imagine it'll take a while for her to get her full queenly powers back. Also, what an awkward boat ride back to King's Landing.This. So much this.If Cersei ever regains an ounce of power, however, Trystane is in a bad place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man from Nowhere Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 I really don't see Jaime blaming Trystane and Doran Martell for Myrcella's death. It's also hard to imagine him sailing back to Kings Landing after being so close to the shores of Dorne (and also because that would almost certainly lead to Trystanes death and starting a war with Dorne which Jaime doesn't want). I think they head back to Dorne and with the blessing of Prince Doran, Bronn, Jaime, and maybe Areo Hotah go on a search for the Sand Snakes and Ellaria. Maybe Prince Doran forbids Trystane from going with them but he sneaks out anyway. I think Bronn is going to turn on Jaime eventually, you could see them building up Jaime being a dick to Bronn throughout last season: * Snaps at him on the boat * Sort of rubs in the fact that he has to do all the rowing * Makes him bury the bodies * Gloats at the fact that Areo Hotah is about to viciously elbow him in the face * Other things I can't think of Please god no! No more Dorne i beg of you dumb and dumber. You fucked it up, let it die in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Book Doran is smart and he has informers everywhere. He was able to thwart Arianne's plot. It would be closer to the books if he has someone on the ship with the antidote. However, Myrcella must die, according to Maggy's prophecy. So maybe she is really dead. If so, Jaime should bring back Trystane and ask justice from Doran. Unless Doran is behind everything. Jaime may think so, but I don't believe Doran would endanger his son's life that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 No one's gonna be angrier than Trystane. If anyone turns the boat around it'll be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averde Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Whether it's explicitly his death warrant or not depends on what's up in Kings Landing and whose in power there, if that boat turns around, and Dorans reaction. Regardless Ellaria doing what she did puts Trystane clearly in harms way, especially since she knows, at least a little, bit about Cersei. It's truly a ridiculous plot point the show is going to blow past, but you know what I can't even get started on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frumpus Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I don't think Kevan would allow Trystane to be killed immediately. I think there would be a lot of diplomacy, a trial, etc. Who knows how much Cersei will have recovered from her WoS at the beginning of next season. I imagine it'll take a while for her to get her full queenly powers back. Also, what an awkward boat ride back to King's Landing. You're probably right but the show isn't likely to even bring back Kevan unless its to just kill him off. He has zero influence. Jaime will probably kill Trystane himself out of rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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