Aniel Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I keep seeing dead crows on my way to work. One looked like it had been stuck in a drainpipe, the other might have been caught by a cat or something and the third is roadkill. Maybe I've spent too much time on here but it feels kind of foreboding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I keep seeing dead crows on my way to work. One looked like it had been stuck in a drainpipe, the other might have been caught by a cat or something and the third is roadkill. Maybe I've spent too much time on here but it feels kind of foreboding...You don't have any happy memories of a lemon tree, or a fondness for lemon sweets, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drekinn Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I believe Jon, Dany and (f)Aegon are the three heads of the dragon. ADWD makes it too obvious, even the title refers to their actions. With Dany and Jon struggling to rule, and (f)Aegon fulfilling his birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon89 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 My current Nutso musings circle around Mirri Maz Dur's ritual, and that Dany perhaps absorbed some of Jon Snows, errrrr, eh, mojo. Making her the alternate/unintentional hero of prophecy. When Mirri Maz Dur is performing her ritual, Dany describes the shadows of a wolf and wight dancing inside the tent. On the other side of the world at this moment Jon and Ghost are fighting the wight that is headed up to Kill Jeor, The events in the Tent are clearly linked to Jon. When Dany is later brought in, she inadvertently joins the ceremony and through some bizarre cosmic mishap is linked to Jon. There isn't really any evidence. This is just based on my musings that Jon is a little too perfect and will probably not survive, and that the bitter sweet ending that GRRM promised us is that the perfect hero dies, and the person in his placed is flawed, but rises to the challenge as the eventual savior. Coincidence that they're both Targaryens? I suppose, and to be honest I'm not going to spend much time justifying it because its really out there. I do like what it adds to the story in terms of keeping us off balance. Dany is front in center as the hero of prophecy from the beginning of the first book up until the 5th where she is literally being declared the hero of propechy. Meanwhile we have Jon's star rising as we learn his heredity and involvement with the events up north, and in my opinion will eventually eclipse Dany's mystique, and then an eventual switcheroo again as Jon dies. Convoluted mess? yes. Could be the other way around? yes. Time wise I don't think it works. Jon receives news of Ned's arrest and the accusation of treason in the same chapter that the fight with the two wights occurs, several weeks before Bran learns of Ned's execution and mentions Maester Luwin making observations about the comet through his Myrish lens tube. MMD's spell is cast many days before Dany sees the comet by the naked eye. Personally I think those shadows were visions of the Great Other (the shadow of a great wolf) and R'hllor (a man wreathed in flames). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Jon Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 -I saw season 1 prior to reading the books and as such mostly skimmed GOT. I missed tons of stuff until my first reread. -I couldn't keep the names/charactars straight in Mereen. Confused the hell out of me. -I really liked Feast and Dance after a reread. -I pronounced Kettleblack as Kettlebeck in my head and didn't figure it out until reading the forums. -The whole Reek/Ramsay thing in Winterfell confused me the first time I read it. -I love Quentyn Martell. Getting to Mereen was boring but when he got there he saw the truth that it wasn't Danny he needed but the dragons. Then he went for it and went down swinging. If he had been good looking and succeeded everyone would love him. When everything was against him he never gave up and died in the arena knowing flaming hot crispy defeat. -I like to think that Ned and Ashara got together at Harrenhall and loved each other. That Ned was a regular guy before standing in for Brandon with Cat. I think Ashara jumped b/c her lover married someone else and either killed her brother or started an amazing conspiracy with him. I think Ned was bitter at Cat for a while over losing Ashara, we just don't know it b/c Ned doesn't think about it anymore. But you could easily think that he stopped his "it was all meant for Brandon" rant b/c he didn't want to offend Cat by saying I should've been in Dorne with Ashara. -Benjen is alive and not Coldhands. Ryman (don't remember the spelling) is Coldhands. Sam finds his name in an old book and he is mentioned in the WOIAF as trading with the children, etc. -I think Maester Luwin is Dornish, not sure what impact that would have on anything. -Jorah Mormont is an ahole and should've had his head cut off by the Ned. -I used to think Mance = Rhaegar, but the show kinda killed that idea and I just read a theory the other day that he is a bastard of BloodRaven that I liked. Although that kills my Arthur = Qhorin idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniel Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You don't have any happy memories of a lemon tree, or a fondness for lemon sweets, do you? Never seen a lemon tree. But I have a fondness for lemon tea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Never seen a lemon tree. But I have a fondness for lemon tea...Please stop drinking lemon tea now. And let's hope it's not too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniel Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Please stop drinking lemon tea now. And let's hope it's not too late. But I haven't had any for like a month D: And now I'm ill too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 But I haven't had any for like a month D: And now I'm ill too...Keep this mind... In Sansa I, Game 15, she was looking forward to lemon cakes in the queen's wheelhouse, but her day ended with her prince's loathing and contempt. Samwell's early childhood went from snitching lemon cakes to contempt, abuse, and banishment by his father. In Sansa II, Game 29, Sansa went from enjoying lemon cakes with Joffrey at the feast following the first day of jousting to being escorted back to her cell by the Hound. In Sansa III, Game 44, Sansa and Jeyne (poor Jeyne) looked for lemon cakes in the kitchen, but at the end of the chapter learned her father was sending back to Winterfell. In Arya V, Game 65, Arya offered to trade a fat pigeon for a lemon, but ened up at her father's execution. Jeor Mormont drank lemon in his beer every day. He still had his own teeth but his men mutinied and murdered him. At Bitterbridge, Renly's bannermen feasted on lemon cakes. Of course, Renly's campaign ened shortly thereafter. As Davos sailed with Stannis's fleet into Blackwater Bay, he observed Aegon's High Hill, dark against a lemon sky. That's an odd description for a sky, no? As Davos turned downstream, the mouth of the Blackwater Rush had turned into the mouth of hell. You referred to Sansa sharing lemon cakes with the Tyrells before being forced to wed the imp. And Lem Lemoncloak just reeks of bitterness and disappointment.I am glad iI'm not associated with House Dalt of Lemonwood. At Edmure's wedding feast Catelyn noted that Ryman Frey had bathed in lemon water but failed to mask his sour sweat, and that Roose smelled sweeter but no more pleasant. The Feast did not end on a happy note. At Joffrey's wedding feast Tyrion had a slice of pigeon pie covered with a spoon of lemon cream. A few paragraphs later he stood accused of regicide. Doran's Water Gardens smell of lemons and blood oranges. Anybody think Dorne is going end up happy with their blood and fire? Cersei drank lemon water so tart she had to spit it out the morning she learned that Tyrion had murdered their father. In The Queenmaker, Arianne noticed that Darkstar preferred lemon water to summer wine, and she served lemonsweet to Myrcella before Darkstar cut off Myrcella's ear amidst lemon orchards watered by a spider's web of old canals. Stannis enjoys boiled eggs and lemon water for breakfast, and, well, I think we all know his end will be bitter and disappointing. I only got a few chapters into Dance...There's more in Dance. In Jon Iv, Dance 17, Stannis offers lemon water to Jon. Wisely, Jon refuses. Stannis drinks more. The merry band aboard the Shy Maid enjoy a pike with lemon juice, but come on, who ddoesn't eat Pike without lemonn and Ysilla was from Dorne. Still, I woulda passed. Tyrion suspected Yezzan was drinking lemon water as the yellow whale bid on him and Penny. Go figure. Hmm... Daenerys's terrace in Mereen had lemon trees... Tyrion served Nurse lemonsweet with the mushrooms from Illyrio's garden. Before donning the ugly little girl's face, the kindly man gave her a drink so tart it was like biting into lemon. That made no one think of Arya's sister, and Sansa's fondness for lemon cakes. The Green Grace accepted a goblet of sweetened lemon juice from the Queenvs Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just read this in a general email at work, "There is a green and black bag found on the first floor with a black binder and file inside. If this belongs to you please contact office services." I am quite convinced that a Sorrowful Man has sent a manticore after someone in my office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just read this in a general email at work, "There is a green and black bag found on the first floor with a black binder and file inside. If this belongs to you please contact office services." I am quite convinced that a Sorrowful Man has sent a manticore after someone in my office! :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just read this in a general email at work, "There is a green and black bag found on the first floor with a black binder and file inside. If this belongs to you please contact office services." I am quite convinced that a Sorrowful Man has sent a manticore after someone in my office! I bet the bag has a piece of paper with "I'm sorry" written inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brranstaark Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Sometimes the amount of description and detailed history we get can be confusing. Im also grateful for those who remember small things like minor charcaters features that are key later on. Like Pate/Jaquen. I don't think Dany should sit the Iron Throne. Neither do I think Jon should. The TV show adaptation isn't as good as people make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchfaces O'Houlihan Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Did Borroq or someone like him who has the ability to warg into a boar have a hand in killing King Robert? Clearly there's some reason Ghost and Borroq's boar dislike each other intensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrell_like_Squirrel Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I picture the Dothraki more as Native American then Mongolian or Hunnish. Also I firmly believe Ned was misled by Littlefinger, not undone by his "honor." If he hadn't prevented Ned from directly investigating Jon Arryn's murder, or used reverse psychology to push Ned where he wanted to, Ned would have had much more success in KL. It's the biggest misconception that people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Did Borroq or someone like him who has the ability to warg into a boar have a hand in killing King Robert? Clearly there's some reason Ghost and Borroq's boar dislike each other intensely. I doubt Ghost is going to act up because of a boar killed Robert he doesn't care he probably didn't like the smell of the boar or the size of it, it can be as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicAndTheSquidSquad Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Random thought: Benjen's boss is his nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Random thought: Benjen's boss is his nephew. So is Jaime's and he's his son too lol ewwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria's pack Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 [quote name="SouthernIslander" post="7177531" timestamp="1436246401"] I really like the sound of some of the words in the series, chief among them Winterfell, which I find so evocative and lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria's pack Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Sorry, messed up that post. I love the word Winterfell too For some reason it reminds me of Rivendell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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