Nictarion Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well slaying the lie doesn't need to mean kill the man especially when he's one of the few to try and fight the others when he's skilled he could come in useful.Along with Jaime, Stannis is one of the last key players from RR, I don't really see Daenerys sparing him tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yeah, but Stannis would never see the light and bend the knee to Daenerys because "It is HIS uncomfortable chair *grinds teeth*" so he's pretty useless. Idk every book he's been getting more and more flexible I doubt he'd surrender outright but dragon(s) melting some of your army tends to give people a new perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Along with Jaime, Stannis is one of the last key players from RR, I don't really see Daenerys sparing him tbh. Depends what kind of mood she's in. Dany isn't very predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullen Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Depends what kind of mood she's in. Dany isn't very predictable. A dragon plants no trees... She's not very predictable, but I'm pretty sure forgiveness will not be part of her plan to take Westeros. If Stannis resists her, he has no chance to make it out of it unburnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Stannis will die in the midst of slaying a dragon. But more seriously, I think he'll survive until late WoW or early DoS. If GRRM has any heart, he'll have Stannis dying in a climactic battle against the Others, not in some stupid IT squabble with Dany. Stannis came North to show he has to protect the Kingdom before he can rule it, and I think it would be stupid to have him die to another IT contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingStannisFan Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 What is the SB abbreviation? And wow, it's disturbing how many King Stannis haters there are. I simply asked based on the evidence and facts provided if people think he'll make it to the end in one way or another. It just goes to show you how little law and justice means to people if their inclination is not to support someone like him, a very misunderstood person and a King Westeros would be lucky to have.... the King who cared. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Stannis is good up until the fact that he's not Azor Ahai Reborn sinks into Mel's thick head. Then she decides that he'd be a great sacrifice to the Red God and he's up in smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 SB = Slaver's Bay. there is a thread that has the abbreviations: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/63913-abbreviation-translation-for-n00bs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Stannis is good up until the fact that he's not Azor Ahai Reborn sinks into Mel's thick head. Then she decides that he'd be a great sacrifice to the Red God and he's up in smoke. Why would you assume Stannis is the one who loses in that scenario? Those men that protect him are his men, and only a small cult of them are loyal to Melisandre. I mean, anythings possible, but when Mel sees that Stannis isn't AA, I don't think he's the one who's going to lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicAndTheSquidSquad Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wow,what an inspiring king who kills his brother with dark magic and burns the people alive. No wonder even 10 year old kid does not want to bend the knee to him. I just feel sorry for him. There is a reason no one likes him and majority supported Renly's claim. I hope Dany burns him alive with dragonfire like his burning stag foreshadows. Oh, so burning people alive is ok for Dany but wrong when Stannis does it. I see your point.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJames Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I believe Stannis's will succeed in taking the Iron Throne as his own. I also think he will throw Ageon into the sea and repel Daenarys's invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'd guess he makes into ADOS, then dies. I'm basing it on these four things, though obviously they can be taken in multiple ways. 1) Daenerys has a vision of him that implies they'll be enemies. Before she can reach westeros and be his enemy she'll (I imagine) be dealing with the Dothraki, the SB aftermath, the Volantene slave and religious revolts, Pentos and the Tattered Prince, etc, and after reaching westeros she'll likely be attacking Aegon before she does Stannis (nevermind her involvement with the ironborn). So, if Stannis is destined to fight her, he'll need to be alive until she arrives, which won't be for some time. 2) One reason GRRM scrapped the five-year gap is that he couldn't conceive a good way to stall certain plot lines, and the example he used was Jon and Stannis just chilling at the wall for five years. The implication being that his intention was for Stannis to survive until late in the story. 3) If the abomination wasn't completely wrong and Stannis is going to burn Shireen at some point the situation would have to be incredibly dire. Wall falling, dead rising, only-hope-left apocalyptic dire. That won't happen until late into TWOW or early into ADOS I expect. 4) Melisandre has seen visions of Stannis wielding his sword against the darkness. Probably not referring to anything that's happened yet.And what did Mel say in her POV? "Was it, Melisandre had seen East-Watch-by-the-Sea with King Stannis. That was where His Grace left Queen Selyse and their daughter Shireen when he assembled his knights for the march to Castle Black. The towers had been different, but that was oft the way with visions". And what was it that Aemon said? "we all deceive ourselves when we want to believe [perfect quote for people who believe Stannis will survive until ADoS]. Melisandre most of all, I think." All her visions are ambiguous. She could have seen a man fighting darkness, and made herself believe it was Stannis. Or she might have saw Stannis, but decieved herself into believing he was fighting darkness. What is the SB abbreviation? And wow, it's disturbing how many King Stannis haters there are. I simply asked based on the evidence and facts provided if people think he'll make it to the end in one way or another. It just goes to show you how little law and justice means to people if their inclination is not to support someone like him, a very misunderstood person and a King Westeros would be lucky to have.... the King who cared. :)Yeah. Westeros would be very lucky to have a king who no one likes, a king who's harsh, stubborn and obsessed with slights (real or not). A king who has to be swayed and pushed to try and earn his people's support (cause he think they should just naturally support him). And how misunderstood he is. The guy who burns others alive, contemplates killing his nephew for a dragon, kills his brother [spoiler]and daughter[/spoiler] and practices dark magic. I'm well aware of his reasonings, and that's why I don't call him a bad guy (just a heavily grey one). But the people who genuinely misunderstand his character, are the people say stuff like your saying (no offence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthur Hightower Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 And what did Mel say in her POV? "Was it, Melisandre had seen East-Watch-by-the-Sea with King Stannis. That was where His Grace left Queen Selyse and their daughter Shireen when he assembled his knights for the march to Castle Black. The towers had been different, but that was oft the way with visions". And what was it that Aemon said? "we all deceive ourselves when we want to believe [perfect quote for people who believe Stannis will survive until ADoS]. Melisandre most of all, I think." All her visions are ambiguous. She could have seen a man fighting darkness, and made herself believe it was Stannis. Or she might have saw Stannis, but decieved herself into believing he was fighting darkness.Yeah. Westeros would be very lucky to have a king who no one likes, a king who's harsh, stubborn and obsessed with slights (real or not). A king who has to be swayed and pushed to try and earn his people's support (cause he think they should just naturally support him). And how misunderstood he is. The guy who burns others alive, contemplates killing his nephew for a dragon, kills his brother [spoiler]and daughter[/spoiler] and practices dark magic. I'm well aware of his reasonings, and that's why I don't call him a bad guy (just a heavily grey one). But the people who genuinely misunderstand his character, are the people say stuff like your saying (no offence). Please escort yourself away; http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/forum/31-game-of-thrones-the-hbo-tv-series/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion92 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Oh, so burning people alive is ok for Dany but wrong when Stannis does it. I see your point.. " What you sow is what you get". I want to see Stannis to taste his own medicine. Azor Ahai,riiiiiight. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaOldtown Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 What is the SB abbreviation? And wow, it's disturbing how many King Stannis haters there are. I simply asked based on the evidence and facts provided if people think he'll make it to the end in one way or another. It just goes to show you how little law and justice means to people if their inclination is not to support someone like him, a very misunderstood person and a King Westeros would be lucky to have.... the King who cared. :) I see the exact opposite, I find it disturbing that there aren't more people who think he would make a dreadful king. If he had won at Blackwater I firmly believe a holy war against the Faith would've followed, and the people of Westeros would back the Faith of the Seven overwhelmingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please escort yourself away; http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/forum/31-game-of-thrones-the-hbo-tv-series/Interesting, because the show actually makes him out to be a lot more likeable than the books. Or where you referring to [spoiler]him killing Shireen? Cause deny it all you like, but it's been confirmed[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Agrippa Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Here we go again, people listening to david benioff. Don't listen do dabid. Never. Listen. To. Dabid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Here we go again, people listening to david benioff. Don't listen do dabid. Never. Listen. To. Dabid.Ahh. So it is just people in denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ahh. So it is just people in denial. Bad pussy needle is revenge DABID!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaOldtown Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bad pussy needle is revenge DABID!!! Yes, the same David who turned him into a killing machine with a sword in season 2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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