DMC Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 This is quite the interesting thread. Frankly, the fact it hasn't been locked/deleted at this point could be construed as positive evidence in and of itself. I agree with those that have maintained it is very unlike Martin to troll his readers. And I'm not going to insult his intelligence - he's either doing that at this point, or he at least has some type of significant update on TWOW in mind. Of course, I'm an optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, divica said: lets keep this topic interesting. a) when do you think grrm will explain this post? b ) do you think he will explain the post? I think he said what he said because he's not allowed to say "I finished the book" because he has legal obligations revolving around such announcements. He said what he said to communicate this while skirting that line. with that in mind, I expect he won't explain the post, because to do so would be an admission that the post was intended as a communication about the status of the book, something he's legally obligated not to do, and so would open him to legal action. but I also think that he didn't think it would be this long before his publisher gave the go ahead to talk about it officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: I think he said what he said because he's not allowed to say "I finished the book" because he has legal obligations revolving around such announcements. He said what he said to communicate this while skirting that line. with that in mind, I expect he won't explain the post, because to do so would be an admission that the post was intended as a communication about the status of the book, something he's legally obligated not to do, and so would open him to legal action. but I also think that he didn't think it would be this long before his publisher gave the go ahead to talk about it officially. But if he says he finished twow within a short period of time we will all link it to this post... If he ignores the situation there will be always people nagging him in the comments about what this post means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, dmc515 said: This is quite the interesting thread. Frankly, the fact it hasn't been locked/deleted at this point could be construed as positive evidence in and of itself. I agree with those that have maintained it is very unlike Martin to troll his readers. And I'm not going to insult his intelligence - he's either doing that at this point, or he at least has some type of significant update on TWOW in mind. Of course, I'm an optimist. I think the majority of the websites moderators are likely on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, divica said: But if he says he finished twow within a short period of time we will all link it to this post... If he ignores the situation there will be always people nagging him in the comments about what this post means... it's about plausible deniability. As long as he never admits the post was about TWOW, his publisher can't sue (even if they know full well what he was talking about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: it's about plausible deniability. As long as he never admits the post was about TWOW, his publisher can't sue (even if they know full well what he was talking about) Why would the publisher sue? He announced Dance was finished on his blog, I believe. What difference would it make to them? He almost certainly IS going to announce that Winds is finished on his blog first anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyirian Aurochs Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 54 minutes ago, divica said: lets keep this topic interesting. a) when do you think grrm will explain this post? b ) do you think he will explain the post? a) I don't think we'll hear anything until his publisher meeting in Aug. I'll say (with great optimism) that it seems likely if this is news of TWoW he would announce it after his publishers give him a specific release date. b. I don't think he'll need to do much explaining if it is TWoW. If it isn't... Well I hope he has a good reason for sending his fans into a frenzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cas Stark said: Why would the publisher sue? He announced Dance was finished on his blog, I believe. What difference would it make to them? He almost certainly IS going to announce that Winds is finished on his blog first anyway. Agreed. I don't see why the publisher would care if he announces he's done on his livejournal. That's all upside and no discernible downside from their perspective, as far as I can tell. In fact, I'm sure they'd encourage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Sour Billy Tipton said: I think the majority of the websites moderators are likely on vacation. Sorry, missed this... If that's the case, let's loot the place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, dmc515 said: Sorry, missed this... If that's the case, let's loot the place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, dmc515 said: Agreed. I don't see why the publisher would care if he announces he's done on his livejournal. That's all upside and no discernible downside from their perspective, as far as I can tell. In fact, I'm sure they'd encourage it. Anybody reading GRRM's livejournal is a garunteed week 1 sale. A major announcement there is a waste from a marketing perspective. The announcement that the book is done will be done under the careful guidance of a PR firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd tollett:( Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I just want to point out that dragonbinder, and the horn of winter, are two separate horns. Dragonbinder is a huge horn that may or may not bind dragons to the owners will. Its is currently with Vic in slavers bay. The Horn of winter, a.k.a. the Horn of Joramun, may or may not, wake gaints from the earth and collapse the Wall. Its has either been burned or is currently with sam at the citidel. The Horn on the cover of 'Winds' is presumably the Horn of Winter that Sam has, which has nothing to do with the Greyjoys. So then why the Greyjoy sigle? Maybe its a reference to the Valyrians sowing the seeds of their own demise? Or maybe grrm is about to reap the rewards of finishing the book!? Whatever it is, i doubt it has anything to do with a spin off, do to the solitary asoiaf tag. So until he actualy addresses it, im going to ride this hype train! Choo!! Choo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd tollett:( Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: Anybody reading GRRM's livejournal is a garunteed week 1 sale. A major announcement there is a waste from a marketing perspective. The announcement that the book is done will be done under the careful guidance of a PR firm. Grrm has said on multiple occasions that when winds was finished, he would annouce it first on his not a blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, edd tollett:( said: Grrm has said on multiple occasions that when winds was finished, he would annouce it first on his not a blog maybe he meant it, at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: Anybody reading GRRM's livejournal is a garunteed week 1 sale. A major announcement there is a waste from a marketing perspective. The announcement that the book is done will be done under the careful guidance of a PR firm. LOL. As if any announcement he makes on his livejournal isn't going to be broadcast on every medium known to mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, dmc515 said: LOL. As if any announcement he makes on his livejournal isn't going to be broadcast on every medium known to mankind. Not this one... https://goo.gl/images/JjOlk9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Lost Melnibonean said: Not this one... https://goo.gl/images/JjOlk9 I....I have no response to that. Witty or otherwise, you've shut me up. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, dmc515 said: I....I have no response to that. Witty or otherwise, you've shut me up. Well done. Have you seen the movie? It's hilarious, and a good study in cultural awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Lost Melnibonean said: Have you seen the movie? It's hilarious, and a good study in cultural awareness. Nope - if I had I may have been able to form a proper response. Point taken though, sounds like a really interesting flick. Definitely on the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd tollett:( Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Now his mood is 'pleased' .....comments still locked.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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