divica Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 So stannis sailed to the Wall with at most 1500 men. He fought against a huge army so he had some losses... We can say that he didn t have losses at deepwood motte... However during the march stannis losses were huge! So that people have an idea on the 19th day on the vilage the cold count was EIGHTY! 80!!! And we are garanteed at least more 1 night with similar conditions (the night in theon's TWoW sample chapter)... In addition stannis started with 800 horses so lets say he had 700 knights? then when stannis says to justin massey: Quote Your place is where I say it is. I have five hundred swords as good as you, or better, but you have a pleasing manner and a glib tongue Does it mean he has 500 knights? So he lost close to 200 knights? And as common soldiers suffered worse than knights at least 300 or 400 common soldiers? So a total of 500 or 600 Southern soldiers died since stannis got to the Wall? If we take into account that close to 150 men probably died because of the cold in the last 2 nights isn t it a low number? Anyway, is it safe to assume that stannis has between 900 and 1000 Southern soldiers and lost nearly a third of his army on the march? If we think that the freys will need more 1 or 2 nights to arrive, even if the weather gets better and the cold count isn t 80 every night it will be pretty high for some nights because the soldiers are already sick... So if we include the battle with the freys is it safe to assume that stannis Southern army is broken or he still has enough soldiers? Then there is the division within his army. If we read the 2 asha chapters together then the northem, queensmen and even kingsmen are nearly starting to fight between themselves. With low food, arya's rescue and stannis personal army diminishing and starting to give more troubles to the northerns than help is it possible that some clansmen/northmen will leave? will theon's fate be important in this friction? In regards to the battle. I was thinking that after mors umber traps hosteen would need to be mentally dead to attack a position that stannis has been defending for days. Or is it possible that he thinks stannis will be unprepared? Is it more likely that after mors stratagems hosteen will be more carefull and try to force stannis to march against him or starve or that hosteen will simply attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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