elipride Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, The Coconut God said: Yes, of course we are all formulating theories and making assumptions. I wasn't calling you out for assuming things, I was criticizing that particular scenario for requiring a lot of convenient things to happen in order to work. Which doesn't even make it impossible, only less likely, based on the assumption that George is the kind of writer who would avoid using too many conveniences to push the plot ahead. In any case, I think we are getting a little side-tracked. Arya staying with the FM is something that works in the context of the Exodus to Essos theory, which I brought up here because if it is true it would also give Areo Hotah's chapters an additional purpose in setting up Norvos. My original statement was that many characters, Arya included, could still have rooted, satisfying story arcs in the context of this scenario. I am not using this to claim that my theory is absolutely correct, but that the motley collection of potential interactions these characters might have in Westeros is not strong enough to outright make my theory impossible. I certainly don't believe that Arya's story alone can dictate where the series as a whole will go, That depends more on where the Dany and Others plot lines are headed. I think we can agree that George could give Arya something to do on either continent. But if you mean to frame Nymeria and LSH as mandatory plot elements for Arya, well... then I would ask you to consider the deeply rooted anti-slavery themes in Dany's story and the fleshing out of Essos that happened in ADwD. Nymeria and LSH are much more likely to stand on their own without Arya, than Volantis, the Tattered Prince, the social politics of Slaver's Bay, etc. if Dany up and leaves. I've NEVER said that your theory is impossible and I've NEVER said that my theory is mandatory, only that it seeme inevitable in my opinion, I would appreciate you stop implying I did that. If anything, until now you were' the one who kept dissmissing all of my arguments as "conveniences" and refuse to acknowledge even the posibility of things being the way I said. But anyway, Arya definitely has some purpose in Essos, and it's true she and many other characters could have a satisfactory story without being in Westeros, I was just explaining my reasons to think that Arya going to Westeros makes a lot of sense thematicaly and for thinking it would require less conveniences than Arya getting involved with Dany's slavery plot that she had no connection to until now. I will admit my bias for thinking that if the story has to be condensed soon, it would be in Westeros. Dany seems to have a lot of set up for going to Westeros and I think she'll clash with fAegon in there, although I would actually like it if Dany stayed in Essos to deal with all that mess that was cause by abolishing slavery. I could also imagine tyrion in Essos, if he's meant to get involved with Dany's plot. But other main characters like Jon, Bran (who I'm not convinced will stay on that cave for too long), Arya and to a lesser degree Sansa have such a powerful connection to the North that I have a hard time imagining them finishing their stories in Essos, and beyond any connection I think they have possible plots in Westeros that, in my opinion, make more sense than staying in Essos. Although I don't rule out something like an exodus happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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