Larry. Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Quite true. And to have such a discussion, the participants would also have to have at least some understanding of different viewpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodymN Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I have to agree, as after reading more of his posts in the following months, he seemed to stretching out to try and grab the Chouinard audience (after all, his ploys remind me of Gabe at his absolute worst more than anything else, with little of Gabe's redeeming points). I toyed with the idea of linking to his gleeful noting that another portrayed him as a martyr-like person in that SF Signal interview, but I thought it'd be best to let that die the silent death that it deserved. The thing about Gabe that separated him a lot of what came after (and mind you I'm aware of the angst against the guy now - and honestly initially had reason to feel the same but didn't publicly because in the end he made things right with me as far as I'm concerned) is that he had credibility. How? Point blank the guy was writing a column at SF Site. Whether ones likes SF Site or not - the numbers they generate (even though only updated monthly) dwarfs any pundit with a blog . Assholes who think they have some authority because 1000 people may visit there blog a day is ludicrous and laughable. The effect is inconsequential. Now, that doesn't mean I think he's doing is not welcome or somebody isn't doing their own thing well, or saying I don't enjoy reading it, or anything like that at all. SF Site has an established reputation and generates unique numbers and they do it by simply existing not having to go on crusade to remind people they still do in fact exist. Beyond that, civility and politeness costs nothing - it's something I admittedly didn't learn until very late but it's a valuable lesson learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 That why I said Gabe had his redeeming points - dude had earned his right to promote certain books/points of view and I for one (and knowing that I'm one of tens of thousands, if not more) benefited from being exposed to some of those authors. But unfortunately, some took Gabe's worst moments as being the core of what it took to stand out in this field. Yes, politeness and civility is paramount if one wants to learn more in the field and in life, I've found. After all, if I kept just to my opinion, would I have learned about all these hundreds or even thousands of SF authors whose works are a delight to read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahir al Daoud Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I checked and discovered this guy is packing up his toys and leaving the playground. In other words, he's shutting down his blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I'll be...and after MJH's announcement. Hrmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Dude used MJH's blog announcement that he was taking a break to be the excuse for leaving. Kinda lame, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Honestly, no. At least as I understand his stated reasoning -- he started a blog for a specific reason, and then the dreaded BLOG DRIFT infested the place. Now, instead of writing about whatever he originally started the blog for, it's turned into a bitchfest. Once that downward slide has happened, it's almost impossible to go back. I've seen two of my favorite blogs disintegrate in just this way in the last year. Both started as science blogs (one evolutionary biology, one cosmology and theoretical physics), and now both regularly post angry rants against the asshattery of the American Christian Right ("evolution is a lie, 'cos I ain't no monkey man") or the current administration. It sucks to be angry all the time. And maybe the end of the year is a good time to angle for a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Maybe so, but I don't know if I'd use another's justification as an excuse. But I can understand the need to re-evaluate. Lord knows I let the OF Blog coast along for three years before I found a purpose for it, but since I don't usually engage in arguments there, I think there's little risk for the invective levels to rise there. But yeah, being negative and bitchy can be very draining, I'd imagine. Best just to blog about fairly specific and self-centered things like reviews than about others, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I can bring the fight to you, if you wish. not sure what we're going to fight about (considering we're pretty well in agreement on most things). Maybe we can fight about the coincidental demise of blogs? :fence: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multaniette Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Why is it that bloggers take themselves so seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I'm not sure, Mult, but I'm thinking I need to become one, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Why is it that bloggers take themselves so seriously? Because some of us can't take others seriously at all? I don't know, really. I just view it all being little more than an exercise in irony in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Why is it that bloggers take themselves so seriously? Because they are better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I thought it was because the best bloggers are inspired by the Dead Kennedys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I'm curious who the bad bloggers are inspired by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 MC Hammer, Warrant, and Winger, no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Why is it that bloggers take themselves so seriously? A thought that does sometimes come to mind. But to be fair a lot of folks just seem to blog for instance for reviews simply because they enjoy putting their stuff up there and having it read. Bloggers are just like regular human beings in the end, some wil be more down-to-earth when others will be more full of themselves. In any case I'm not peeved about McCalmont or Harrison shutting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Why is it that bloggers take themselves so seriously? Because no-one else will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSP Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 What a schmuck. Why try and commentate on a subject your admittedly ignorant of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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