"Twilight" by Stephanie Meyer - A YA vampire novel

[potsherds]

[quote name='Shryke' post='1468923' date='Aug 5 2008, 15.20']This sums it up so well. Between what I've read of it (my younger sister likes it /sigh), and the summaries in this thread, I think we can safely declare this:

Creepy Mormon Romantic Fantasy ... with Vampires THAT SPARKLE!!![/quote]
Just how young is your younger sister? :huh:

And I'm glad that someone else brought up the Mormon bit. :P Honestly, didn't [i]anyone[/i] consider that putting a pedophiliac thread into the last book was just really too much, what with the author being Mormon and the current news a la Colorado City? :|

[Shryke]

[quote name='potsherds' post='1469181' date='Aug 5 2008, 13.55']Just how young is your younger sister? :huh:[/quote]

15.

Don't worry, I managed to shift her television watching from "Soap Operas" => "Babylon 5". I can handle this idiotic series.

[Nymeria87]

[quote]Creepy Mormon Romantic Fantasy ... with Vampires THAT SPARKLE!!![/quote]

I second that! And I'm living in Utah...yeah, don't ask...most of the LDS part of my family totally love those books...*sigh*

[Blaine]

[quote name='Draco the Lizard' post='1466787' date='Aug 3 2008, 08.50']The vampires SPARKLE in this series. I think that kind of says it all.[/quote]
Good god... might as well ride unicorns bareback and tie fancy ribbons in their hair.

All proof that vampires really are quite a gay lot.

[Shryke]

Reading through [url="http://kadath.livejournal.com/692700.html"]this description of the 1st book[/url], I was initially torn. I mean, she seems to do a damn good job of describing the inner life of a self-centred teenage bitch. I was thinking, "Hey, maybe that's the point? This author could have actual talent."

[url="http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=46134"]Then I read the description of the last book.[/url]

... Wow. The first part is like pure fluke. I think we're actually supposed to like and/or sympathize with this bitch.

PS - And Edward seems to have the maturity of an unripened grapefruit. No wonder he's still in High School. I'd think it was intentional if I still thought the author had talent.

[dornish prince]

i took the daughter to B&N last night to get the new one for her. she loves this series. i tried to read the first one but it was too juvenile for me.

[potsherds]

[quote name='Blaine23' post='1469418' date='Aug 5 2008, 21.08']All proof that vampires really are quite a gay lot.[/quote]
Haha! I took this comment too seriously and started to wonder what it means when vampire books written for women have 'sensitive' or even worse emo-juvenile vampires as lovers as opposed to 'manly men' or whatever. And then my brain started to hurt. I love me a good vampire book, and at the same time I've read very few that I think did the vampires real justice as the monsters they are. :dunno: But calling them gay is more a failing of the authors than the original eastern European idea.

ETA: Found out today that my beautician LOVES this series. Then she mentioned that a friend gave her WFR to read, and I nearly broke into tears. I managed to convince her not to read WFR at least...but she's hopeless on the 'Twilight' series. *sigh*

[Angalin]

Pots - suggest "Sunshine", by Robin McKinley. Also vampiric, but actually well-written.

[Daeryssa Stark]

Sweet God! :stunned:

I've only heard of these books through hearsay and after looking at some plot summaries, I think I'd rather reread The Vampire Armand and LKH's later ego-stroking Anita Blake porn books!

Anyone ever read Lisa Jane Smith's 'Nightworld' series? Similar vein, almost as sappy, but less annoying. I latched onto these when I was a newbie teenager so I suppose I can understand the squeeing over these Twilight books. Just a little. But I fully admit that someone should have smacked me over the head with a copy of ASOIAF at that tender age instead.

[Trencher]

[quote name='Shryke' post='1468923' date='Aug 5 2008, 11.20']This sums it up so well. Between what I've read of it (my younger sister likes it /sigh), and the summaries in this thread, I think we can safely declare this:

Creepy Mormon Romantic Fantasy ... with Vampires THAT SPARKLE!!![/quote]

What is "Creepy Mormon"? Is that like Creepy Jew or Creepy Southern Baptist? Don't people read vampire novels in hopes of being creeped out? Odd.

I have seen these books at Costco and know kids that love them (mainly teenage girls of course). They are filed under "Juvenile" for a reason. They are not supposed to be adult oriented. I, not being a teenage girl, will pass on these. I think they just became an alternative for the young girls who had all finished Harry Potter. I wouldn't expect anything serious.

[kuenjato]

The shitstorm going on at amazon right now is [i]very [/i]amusing to read.

I have a friend who married into the Mormon faith and she once told me that they believe they get their own planet when they die. At least, the men do.

A year or so ago I discussed this with a woman who has relations in the church. Apparently her uncle strayed, reading philosophy and the like, and decided to move on. Her aunt was very upset -- seems she won't be able to relax in the afterlife if her husband isn't true.

:cry:

[Shryke]

[quote name='Trencher' post='1470831' date='Aug 6 2008, 18.06']What is "Creepy Mormon"? Is that like Creepy Jew or Creepy Southern Baptist? Don't people read vampire novels in hopes of being creeped out? Odd.

I have seen these books at Costco and know kids that love them (mainly teenage girls of course). They are filed under "Juvenile" for a reason. They are not supposed to be adult oriented. I, not being a teenage girl, will pass on these. I think they just became an alternative for the young girls who had all finished Harry Potter. I wouldn't expect anything serious.[/quote]

Creepy as in "my boyfriend acts all stalker like but I love him and we'll be together for ever and ever and ever" and many other things.

Mormon because ... well, she's a Mormon and it shines through.

[Trencher]

[quote name='Shryke' post='1470888' date='Aug 6 2008, 19.00']Creepy as in "my boyfriend acts all stalker like but I love him and we'll be together for ever and ever and ever" and many other things.

Mormon because ... well, she's a Mormon and it shines through.[/quote]

You mean too clean? It is a book for "young adults". I think expectations should be lower for any adults reading this.

[Ouroboros]

Well there ain't nothing clean about the latest book.

[Caligula_K]

Every time I sell one of these books at work (so on last saturday excessively from midnight until one and then from 9-5, and then occasionally after that) a little part of me dies inside, especially since every customer begs me to validate their choice and to agree that the series is the awesomest thing ever.

EDWARD + JACOB 4eva

[Gigei]

[quote name='Brahm_K' post='1471146' date='Aug 6 2008, 23.51']EDWARD + JACOB 4eva[/quote]

:grouphug:

Uh huh. In the new book Edward is a pillow-biter. I'm serious. He really is. :leaving:

[Joanna vander Poele]

[quote name='Gigei' post='1471325' date='Aug 7 2008, 03.21']:grouphug:

Uh huh. In the new book Edward is a pillow-biter. I'm serious. He really is. :leaving:[/quote]
Yessss, I always thought they should have put the love triangle bit to better use :drool:

[Cruella_Da_Oz]

Clean? For kids? Not unless you want your kids to be traumatized for life. Well, the books is a good fighting tool against

SPOILER: BD

teenage pregnancy. But how clean is a girl crying and begging her beloved for sex? Babies that will eat their way out of their mothers? Fountains of blood spewing from one's mouth? Pregnancy that breaks your ribs and spine? Uterus eating boyfriends?

On serious note, children and teenagers can read good literature, just because they are young doesn't mean they should read mysoginistic tripe about moronic, boy-obsessed Sue and her Stuish, emo boyfriend. I know I was reading good books at young age and although I also enjoyed my fair share of horrible ones, it wasn't age related - I still do.

On less serious note, I had to take a look at last book by myself, and now I feel certain love for writer. It's kinda awesome. And here I thought that movie with woman eating her aborted fetus, Berserk scene where Guts is chewing intestines of dead child, were rather hardcore. Wrong I was!

[Gigei]

[quote name='Cruella_Da_Oz' post='1471402' date='Aug 7 2008, 08.40']On serious note, children and teenagers can read good literature, just because they are young doesn't mean they should read mysoginistic tripe about moronic, boy-obsessed Sue and her Stuish, emo boyfriend. I know I was reading good books at young age and although I also enjoyed my fair share of horrible ones, it wasn't age related - I still do.[/quote]

Absolutely! When I was in High School my friends were reading what I thought it was the most horrible simplistic series, ever, yet the books were falling apart due to the how many girls in class had read them when they were passed around.

[quote]On less serious note, I had to take a look at last book by myself, and now I feel certain love for writer. It's kinda awesome. And here I thought that movie with woman eating her aborted fetus, Berserk scene where Guts is chewing intestines of dead child, were rather hardcore. Wrong I was![/quote]

Meh, is this insistence on having a child no matter what, even when it would kill the mother some sort of Mormon thing? I dimly recall some such scene in Orson Scott Card's books wherein he basically creates a character just as a mouthpiece for his own books - and it was totally obvious. Of course, the character who was opposed to marrying and having kids (because they would be some kind of freak, IIRC, and also destined to die young) just had a abrupt about-face when he listened to the whole speech on "love is good, marry and have kids" thing.

[Angalin]

Surely that's a

SPOILER: Cruella's comment

placenta-eating boyfriend? I surely hope so.