A Thread for Small Questions XI

[QueenNymeria]

@maria012- if you liked Pillars of the Earth, you would probably like it's 'sequel', World Without End. I am also suffering from asoiaf deficiency syndrome and am going to the library today to get TH White's The Once and Future King and to see if I can find some of the Dunk and Egg stories.

@headtrip honey- Ok, so Robert thinks that Rhaegar raped Lyanna to death. That scenario fits in well with Robert’s wordview that Lyanna was kidnapped and abused, because she would never have gone with Rhaegar willingly. What woman would choose Rhaegar when she could have ROBERT?! But the story seems to portray Rhaegar as a kind, intelligent and caring person and I wonder if there are other people in Westeros who would question whether he was capable of such a thing, therefore calling the nature of Lyanna’s death into question. What do those people think happened to her?

[Shaggydog Stark]

He may be, but we've no cause to suspect so. He mainly gets around with whores, who I'm sure know how to "take care of business," as it were. And even if he did get one with child, she'd likely have no reason to know it was his. (Depending on the type of dwarfism Tyrion has, his children may very well be of normal height)

Thanks, it makes sense.

[zff]

First post, hopefully in the right place.

Are there any theories floating around out there about in what capacity, or if, we will see the Blackfish again?

[Bronn of the Blackwater]

zff:

Some think that he would resurface in the Vale given his previous position and connections there. I've also heard some think that he might hook up with his niece and the Brotherhood Without Banners.

Given the choice between the two, I think the former is more likely as he seems to be a popular and intriguing character and a position in the Vale would give him a more politically significant position going forward. Assuming his relationship with Littlefinger is a positive one, he could serve to legitimize Sansa based on having known Catelyn well (and Sansa is described as Cat but more beautiful) although I suppose Bronze Yohn could do the same. And while Littlefinger is shown to be a brilliant political maneuverer he is no warrior--Blackfish could command the armies of the Vale for him (his military tactical skills were displayed by his mentoring of Robb). Personally, I'm definitely hoping Brynden ends up in the Vale.

[Stann]

Just a quick question. I'm curious about the Faceless Men and, in particular, the House of Black and White in Braavos. Has it been spelled out anywhere in the narrative that this is, indeed, one of if not the home of the Faceless Men? Or is everyone sort of assuming that it is?

[Widowmaker]

edit: was a spoiler

[Widowmaker]

Just a quick question. I'm curious about the Faceless Men and, in particular, the House of Black and White in Braavos. Has it been spelled out anywhere in the narrative that this is, indeed, one of if not the home of the Faceless Men? Or is everyone sort of assuming that it is?

It seems to me that it is their headquarter... And the FM can sleep there for the least. Don't know if the FM still

know something like 'their House'.

[Galen M]

Hi,

I've got a question about a Davos Seaworth chapter in 'A Dance with Dragons':

I don't have the book with me right now and need to know the quote about Ned

Stark from Godric Borrell, which contains the Stark words.

It's something like:'There is only one thing that's certain in this life- and that is that.......

Please help me

Thanks

If it's DWD, it should be in this thread in the DWD section

http://asoiaf.wester...ons-on-adwd-ii/

The Stark words are Winter is Coming

[Umberto]

Why did Bran and Rickon split up? All their family is split up, why split up willingly?!

[headtrip_honey]

Why did Bran and Rickon split up? All their family is split up, why split up willingly?!

It's harder to kill both of them if they're apart. Also, Bran, Hodor, Meera and Jojen would already be hampered in how quickly they could travel without having a 4 year old tagging along.

They may not like being apart, but it's far safer.

[1234567]

Here's a question that's been bugging me.

I could've sworn in one of the books Sansa thinks something along the lines of "One day I will have a son and he will hate and kill Lannisters" Does this actually happen? If so, where and in what book? Much appreciated

I think it is in ACOK when Sansa thinks she is going to marry Willas Tyrell.

[Rinso]

But the story seems to portray Rhaegar as a kind, intelligent and caring person and I wonder if there are other people in Westeros who would question whether he was capable of such a thing, therefore calling the nature of Lyanna’s death into question. What do those people think happened to her?

It's worth noting that Bran thinks that's exactly what happened - that Lyanna was kidnapped and raped. So it's reasonable to assume that everyone else in the Stark household shares this opinion.

[CrypticWeirwood]

It's worth noting that Bran thinks that's exactly what happened - that Lyanna was kidnapped and raped. So it's reasonable to assume that everyone else in the Stark household shares this opinion.

Bran is very, very young. I would not place complete faith in how close Bran's view is to say Benjen's, for example. Ned probably need to ensure that his children all sang the same official song, and the best way to do that is to give them all the same story.

That doesn't mean it is anything but a story, though.

[Rinso]

Bran is young, but the point is that is what he is told and taught. So, either Ned has allowed and arranged his entire family and household to live in a lie, or there is something ugly about the whole story (which, in my eyes, is confirmed by Brandon's reaction and murderous rage when he heard).

[Dragonfish]

Bran is young, but the point is that is what he is told and taught. So, either Ned has allowed and arranged his entire family and household to live in a lie, or there is something ugly about the whole story (which, in my eyes, is confirmed by Brandon's reaction and murderous rage when he heard).

Bran states Rickard was beheaded in that scene, so obviously he doesn't quite know all his history. My best guess is that Lyanna being raped is the "story" as espoused by the current regime, and Bran picked up on it. Ned wouldn't correct anyone, because that might make people wonder why he's so quick to defend Rhaegar, and those thoughts might lead them to wondering about Jon.

[Gray Ghost]

we know stark children are wargs..Bran wants to fly, is it possible that Bran, Arya, and Rikkon could take the dragons body too, are dragons exceptions

I think that this is a very good question. Although I think Jon Snow's character may be going in a different direction, is it possible that the Stark childrens' destiny is to claim the control of the dragons??

[corbon]

Bran is young, but the point is that is what he is told and taught. So, either Ned has allowed and arranged his entire family and household to live in a lie, or there is something ugly about the whole story (which, in my eyes, is confirmed by Brandon's reaction and murderous rage when he heard).

Or Bran is following soldiers gossip, rather than a Ned-authorised version.

Which, given the known error he makes over Rickard's death, seems most likely to me.

[Galen M]

Or Bran is following soldiers gossip, rather than a Ned-authorised version.

Which, given the known error he makes over Rickard's death, seems most likely to me.

about that error, I think it's more likely that Martin decided it would be more dramatic for Rickard to have been burned to death when he was righting Clash.

[Dragonfish]

about that error, I think it's more likely that Martin decided it would be more dramatic for Rickard to have been burned to death when he was righting Clash.

Well, we know that Ned didn't even tell Catelyn about how Rickard truly died, so it stands to reason that he didn't tell Bran either. And if he didn't tell Bran all the details about his father's murder, then why would he tell him about his sister's rape? No, I think it's more likely that Bran heard about her being raped from someone other than Ned. The only real question is why Ned would neglect to correct Bran if he knew Lyanna hadn't really been raped, but I think that's adequately explained if we consider that Ned wouldn't want to attract attention to Jon's true parentage.

[Rinso]

Or Bran is following soldiers gossip, rather than a Ned-authorised version.

Which, given the known error he makes over Rickard's death, seems most likely to me.

If he was following just gossip, maester Lewin (he was also present when he said it) would have corrected him or somehow noted that. He didn't (and he was the one who insisted that Bran tells Osha the family's history).