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Jaime killing Alton is NO problem with me. Don't you guys remember all the times Jaime talked about killing Brienne in his mind to escape? So why wouldn't he kill Alton to escape.

Yes, the whole cousin who looked up to him made it more brutal than usual, but don't act like its a HUGE deviation from his character.

Also, I'm sick of people complaining about the changes. If you wanted the exact same thing that was happening in your head as you read, then what's the point? Just enjoy the show for what it is. There are some amazing scenes in here, and the goal of the show is to be successful AS THE SHOW. Not to copy the books word for word.

My only issue is what is going to happen with Jon Snow...but they still have 3 episodes to fix his situation.

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I loved the Jaime killing the Frey kid and the karstark kid. Rickard blaming jaime specifically made little sense in the books. Loved the Theon scenes, and Rickon getting a line as well. Loved the ep

only down side was they made it too obvious it was not rickon and bran. They should have cut to a shot where they leave the barn and "chase" them, all the while Bran and company are running.

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Do you guys think Cat cut off Jaime's hand at the end? I dont understand how she could free him without knowing Bran/Rickon are 'dead'...

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Why wouldn’t Jaime just have gotten his coz to lie down and pretend to be having a seizure? Would have effected the same result. Murder seems stupid. His father has more respect for his own blood than the Jamester has.

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This show needs to be an hour and half or even two hours long per episode. Either that, or we need like 15+ episodes a season. I don't think they can continue in this fashion for the next books. There are just too many characters and too much stuff going on. Even this season feels rushed and skipping around all over the place. When you break each episode down into minutes per character its kind of disappointing. We only see characters for like a few minutes a week. WE NEED LONGER EPISODES HBO!

Well, I think "A Storm of Swords" will be made into 2 seasons.

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Well, I think "A Storm of Swords" will be made into 2 seasons.

Unlikely. All we know is that it is being made into more than one season.

1.6 is more than 1.

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Well, I think "A Storm of Swords" will be made into 2 seasons.

Yes, GRRM has confirmed that Season 3 of GoT will cover roughly half of A Storm of Swords

I just wonder where they will end the season...Red Wedding is around 2/3rds into the book

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Why wouldn’t Jaime just have gotten his coz to lie down and pretend to be having a seizure? Would have effected the same result. Murder seems stupid. His father has more respect for his own blood than the Jamester has.

I think Tywin would approve. They are the "main" house after all. Jaime is worth more than Alton. Just like he is worth more than the Stark girls which is why a trade would never happen.

For what will Robb take Karstark’s head now?

Karstark might kill some other people under Stark protection when Jaime is freed. Possible a few high profile prisoners they have.

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I hope they don't show Bran and Rickon again until after the sacking of Winterfell. When I first read it in the books I never believed the two head's that Theon covered in tar were those of the boys, at least at first. After enough time had passed my opinion changed, until the Miller's boy revelation occurred. My point is that it's all well and good for audiences to think Bran and Rickon aren't dead at this point, just as I had, but in 3 episodes when we finally see them again it could come as a shock that they're still alive.

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It there a translation key in the house? ;}

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For what will Robb take Karstark’s head now?

I'm assuming he'll take his rage out on some other captives, just like in the book. We haven't seen them but we know, from the dialogue, that there are a plethora of them for him to slaughter.

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I think the changes they made to why Catelyn releases Jaime was made to make her decision less of a purely emotional freakout decision and more of a "get the most out of a bad situation" decision.

The show is implying that without Robb there, Jaime was a dead man before the morning, so Cat would rather have the chance of getting her daughters back, than a corpse of Jaime Lannister that is of no use to her.

It makes Cat's decision more palatable. I don't mind this change to make Cat a less hated figure among the fandom.

FWIW, I never hated Cat, I actually quite like her a character and frankly I think a lot of people hate her for entirely the wrong reasons.

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I'm really surprised that they chose to have Sansa's flowering scene - particularly because she's supposed to be a lot older than she is from the books. Are they counting on viewers to be completely ignorant to women's reproduction cycles?

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Terrific episode, probably the second best of the season. Loved the Harren the Black reference and the shout-out to the Brotherhood Without Banners.

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Do you guys think Cat cut off Jaime's hand at the end? I dont understand how she could free him without knowing Bran/Rickon are 'dead'...

This is like the 3rd time I've said this in the thread, but...

It's different from the book, because in it Karstark was away with Robb. In the show, he's there, drinking and stewing, and the whole camp is like a pot boiling over. Jaime isn't going to survive the night if she doesn't get him out of there.

The only way not to have done it this way would've been to have Kastark away with Robb (like in the book), but that would've delayed Jaime's release until at least next week; which would've thrown a wrench in the plan they talked about months ago of moving some of Jaime's ASoS arc up into this season in order to give NCW something to do this season.

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Well, I think "A Storm of Swords" will be made into 2 seasons.

They've specifically stated this as a fact.

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