Lykos Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Ice Turtle, I hope this helps.Hi using Errant Bards timeline and http://asoiaf.wester...-affc-and-adwd/I have started this. <snip> AFFC 36: Samwell 4 24/08/300 ADWD 36: Jon 7 New recruits make vows AFFC 46: Samwell 5 23/09/300 ADWD 37: Daenerys 6 AFFC 35: Cat Of The Canals ADWD 38: The Prince of Winterfell “Bael”arrives at Winterfell. Ramsay marries Jeyne/’Arya” The books converge when ADWD chapters all begin continuing storylines which ended in AFFC A Feast for Crows A Dance with Dragons Possible date ADWD 39: The Watcher ADWD 40: Jon 8 Sends Val out ADWD 41: Tyrion 9 ADWD 42: The Turncloak ADWD 43: The King's Prize 30 days since she left Deepwood Motte. Arrive at village ADWD 44: Daenerys 7 ADWD 45: Jon 9 Selyse arrives at Castle Black. Tycho Nahaaris mentions Lannister failure to pay debts. Alys Karstark arrives, warns of Karstark uncle’s betrayal ADWD 46: The Blind Girl ADWD 47: A Ghost In Winterfell Final scene within a day of chapter 52. ADWD 48: Tyrion 10 ADWD 62: The Griffin Reborn ADWD 49: Jaime Roslin’s child not born. Learns that the siege of Raventree Hall has gone on for half a year. It must have begun by ASOS 72: Jaime 9 12/01/300. Since that’s when Lord Bracken was pardoned. ADWD 50: Jon 10 Alys marries Sigorn. Tormund and Val return ADWD 51: Daenerys 8 ADWD 52: Theon Perhaps 3 days before chapter 63/last Asha chapter ADWD 53: Daenerys 9 ADWD 54: Jon 11 Flints and Norrey’s arrive ADWD 55: Cersei 1 Rumours of Jon Connington ADWD 56: The Queensguard ADWD 57: The Iron Suitor ADWD 58: Tyrion 11 ADWD 59: Jon 12 Wildling hostages, Cotter Pyke stranded at Hardhome ADWD 60: The Discarded Knight ADWD 61: The Spurned Suitor ADWD 63: The Sacrifice Stranded for 19 days at village. Approximately 3 days since chapter 52 ADWD 64: Victarion ADWD 65: The Ugly Little Girl ADWD 66: Cersei 2 ADWD 67: Tyrion 12 ADWD 69: The Dragontamer ADWD 68: The Kingbreaker ADWD 70: Jon 13 Receives Pink letter ADWD 71: The Queen's Hand ADWD 72: Daenerys 10 ADWD 73: Epilogue <snip> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Sam arriving in Oldtown definitely happened first. (AFFC ended halfway through ADWD.) Arya getting pretty face happened last. (Her timeline is ahead of everybody else.)I'm not sure about the rest. I've heard there is a timeline for all books at Tower of the Hand, but I can't find it.There wasn't any white raven to herald the winter at the Wall yet, though.It's probably a question about how the white ravens work, if they are send at the same time or send in a way that they arrive more or less at the same time. I found timeline for the first four books but not dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojzelote Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Ice Turtle, I hope this helps.Hmm . . . It seems I was wrong. I'm sorry, Ice Turtle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 What was the last event of the books? Jon's assassination, Kevan's murder, Sam arriving to Oldtown or Arya getting a new pretty face?The order from earliest to latest is:Sam - OldtownArya - new faceJon - stabbedKevan - murdered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thanks everyone! snipI have a little problem with that. The quote from the Blind girl: Her nights were lit by distant stars and the shimmer of moonlight on snow, but every dawn she woke to darkness.Jaime I ADwD The ground was bare and muddy, and dotted here and there with drifts of melting snow.It seems like snow ceased to melt in Riverlands in time of the Blind girl chapter, while it is still a little warmer in Jaime I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Didnt the white raven come to the Wall well before it went anywhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojzelote Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Didnt the white raven come to the Wall well before it went anywhere else?Where? It's possible, I don't recall.I know that the one announcing autumn came during ACOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Ice Turtle, I will not guarantee the correctness of the timeline, but I think voodooqueen126 did a great job and I haven´t found any grave errors. Are there hints where Nymeria and her pack are when Arya has these dreams? Maybe the snow falls at night and melts in the day at some places south of the Trident, like Raventree Hall. And I´m not completely certain how the time of the Blind Girl chapter was established (she was blinded right after she killed Dareon after Sam attacked him and was thrown out of the brothel, right?), but Jaime in Dance seems sound.ETA: Another timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respectable Chap Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Yes...I just imagine many might choose not to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 ...I just imagine many might choose not to believe it.Hah! I dont doubt that at all! Maybe tomorrow it will be me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeRuiner Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 From the description it is hard for me to tell who died first. How did you figure this out? In Game, Eddard, I: Brandon had been twenty when he died [...] His father had been forced to watch him die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think I read somewhere on here that GRRM originally intended for Catelyn to survive the Red Wedding and to be among the hostages at the Twins. Does anyone have the reference to where that info comes from or know more about why he changed his mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Doug Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Could Sansa's marriage be annulled on the grounds it was never consummated?DEFINITELY!What was the last event of the books? Jon's assassination, Kevan's murder, Sam arriving to Oldtown or Arya getting a new pretty face?Pretty sure Kevan's assassination was the last event, but I'm not 100% sure.ETA: should have kept reading, plenty of people answered you, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 In Game, Eddard, I: Brandon had been twenty when he died [...] His father had been forced to watch him die.That's from a POV. If he was in hot armor it is hard to tell objectively what happened first unless Rickard was hopping around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 That's from a POV. If he was in hot armor it is hard to tell objectively what happened first unless Rickard was hopping around.it's consistent with jaime's description - "in the end, Brandon strangled himself" trying to save his father. If Rickard was dead, there's no reason to try. And Jaime then goes on to describe Rickard's burning and uses the phrase "in the end," there as well, implying that Rickard's death came after Brandon's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 it's consistent with jaime's description - "in the end, Brandon strangled himself" trying to save his father. If Rickard was dead, there's no reason to try. And Jaime then goes on to describe Rickard's burning and uses the phrase "in the end," there as well, implying that Rickard's death came after Brandon's.My only issue is how could anyone tell when RIckard died - him being enclosed in armor and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 My only issue is how could anyone tell when RIckard died - him being enclosed in armor and all.His face wasn't enclosed in armor, was it? Jaime seems to describe it as if he could tell. It's in his Catelyn's POV in ACOK where she has that long conversation with him in the cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 His face wasn't enclosed in armor, was it? Jaime seems to describe it as if he could tell. It's in his Catelyn's POV in ACOK where she has that long conversation with him in the cells.I could buy that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Doug Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I would imagine his screams would be a good indicator that he's dead. It wasn't mentioned that he did scream, but let's face it, if he wasn't screaming because of the agony he was screaming because he just watched his son die a cruel death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 More a warning than a question. D is close to S on the QWERT keyboard. this makes it possible to Google "A Dong of Ice and Fire". I dont recommend going for that since Google wont warn you or correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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