Winter's Knight Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Is this the interview where he says that Dorne was based on both Spain and Wales? A strange combination. I am trying to think what the Welsh aspects are personally, but I'm sure GRRM's thoughts are founded in logic.The Welsh-if I remember my terrible history-never really liked being under the English crown. They definitely rebelled in the 1100's, with the legendary King Arthur as a rallying figure. His tomb-along with Excalibur-is said to be located there. I guess Dawn truly is Lightbringer. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Is this the interview where he says that Dorne was based on both Spain and Wales? A strange combination. I am trying to think what the Welsh aspects are personally, but I'm sure GRRM's thoughts are founded in logic.I took that to mean that they sort of have their own distinct culture within another society, which is similar to Dorne's situation in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melpomene Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Interesting interview! Thanks for the link.Oh beloved Winds of Winter...one day you will be in my hands...one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Jon Snow Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 awesome interview! I'd be ok with 2014.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogus Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 2014 would be fineWorld Cup just outside in my town (Rio de Janeiro) and Winds of Winter in my hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowborn Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ahh... I can't wait for TWoW. It will take at least one more year since it's first published in English to get it translated into Spanish :frown5: . I won't wait, I'll read it in English as soon as it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNiall Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The Welsh-if I remember my terrible history-never really liked being under the English crown. They definitely rebelled in the 1100's, with the legendary King Arthur as a rallying figure. His tomb-along with Excalibur-is said to be located there. I guess Dawn truly is Lightbringer. :DKing Arthur is a series of legends from the dark ages/end of the roman era Britain I think you maybe mean the glyndwr rebellion around the 13/14 century. I see a similarity with the fact both Dorne and Wales are principalities and both have different cultures from the rest of the greater kingdoms concerned. The welsh are also quite dark and swarthy when you hit the valleys boyos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I expect the book in 2016... maybe I'll be surprised, but I dont want to have too high hopes !Despite this... one of the best interviews of GRRM I've ever read ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Africanus Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 King Arthur is a series of legends from the dark ages/end of the roman era Britain I think you maybe mean the glyndwr rebellion around the 13/14 century. I see a similarity with the fact both Dorne and Wales are principalities and both have different cultures from the rest of the greater kingdoms concerned. The welsh are also quite dark and swarthy when you hit the valleys boyos!Dorne is defacto an autonomous region while Wales has been a part of the British realm since like the 10th century and the title Prince of Wales is given to the heirs of the British throne.ASOFAI Westeros is different from has happened in Europe and if I were the author I wouldn't want to keep making comparisons either especially when you know you can only insult people by making wrong comparisons. That we as fans do it is another matter of course. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meeraculous Third Reed Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 There's still a marked Celtic influence in northwestern Spain, particularly the province of Galicia, so it's not too much of a stretch.Ah, never really knew this.The Welsh-if I remember my terrible history-never really liked being under the English crown. They definitely rebelled in the 1100's, with the legendary King Arthur as a rallying figure. His tomb-along with Excalibur-is said to be located there.I guess Dawn truly is Lightbringer. :DI took that to mean that they sort of have their own distinct culture within another society, which is similar to Dorne's situation in Westeros.Yeah I can see that argument (perhaps should have myself considering I'm English). I was thinking more in terms of language (the Welsh are somewhat proud of it) and complexion diversity than their mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Knight Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 King Arthur is a series of legends from the dark ages/end of the roman era Britain I think you maybe mean the glyndwr rebellion around the 13/14 century. I see a similarity with the fact both Dorne and Wales are principalities and both have different cultures from the rest of the greater kingdoms concerned. The welsh are also quite dark and swarthy when you hit the valleys boyos!Re King Arthur: I meant that he was a symbolic rallying figure for the Welsh- a legendary hero that symbolises their independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 In some ways Dorne would be more like Scotland than Wales. Despite numerous wars and invasions the English never quite managed to incorporate Scotland by force, and it happened in the end only because a king of Scotland inherited the crown of England as well, i.e. because the English and Scottish royal families interbred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Unlike Martin, I don't see much in common at all between Dorne and medieval Spain, other than the fact that they're both hot, with arid landscapes.Dornish customs and food seem very different to those of the Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengerofWinterfell Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think he'll get it in gear pretty soon. If not he faces the very real possibility of the TV Series catching up to the book before the books are released. Pretty sure he doesnt want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushido Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Unlike Martin, I don't see much in common at all between Dorne and medieval Spain, other than the fact that they're both hot, with arid landscapes.Dornish customs and food seem very different to those of the Spanish.Similarities in landscapes are enough,after all he was inspired by Spain,while creating,not copying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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